SO I guess voter fraud *is* (not) a thing ***EDITED***

[blackangst1]

*******EDIT*******

I fell victim to fake news. My response is below. Nothing to see here This is NOT a thing.

See post #11 "OK looks like I fell for fake news. Did more reading, and it appears these claims are baseless."
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At least in New Hampshire.

This is an interesting article...Im not sure I ever considered bussing in out-of-state people to vote, I didnt really think it would be so widespread. I guess it is.

Although this particular article shows it has benefitted Democrats, Im not singling out any party as Im sure this happens on both sides.

It confirms my personal opinion we need a way to verify ALL voters, EVERY time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/

Some quips:

More than 6,500 people registered to vote in New Hampshire on Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses, and since then the vast majority have neither obtained an in-state license nor registered a motor vehicle.

“Having worked before on a campaign in New Hampshire, I can tell you that this issue of busing voters into New Hampshire is widely known by anyone who’s worked in New Hampshire politics. It’s very real. It’s very serious. This morning, on this show, is not the venue for me to lay out all the evidence,” White House policy adviser Stephen Miller told ABC News in February.

Though Mr. Jasper’s findings don’t prove those accusations, they do corroborate them. The numbers read this way:

⦁ 6,540 people registered and voted on Nov. 8, based on presenting out-of-state licenses.

⦁ As of Aug. 30, about 15 percent (1,014 of the voters) had been issued New Hampshire driver’s licenses.

⦁ Οf the remaining 5,526, barely more than 200 (3.3 percent) had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

more than 80 percent of voters who registered on Nov. 8 using out-of-state driver’s licenses, or 5,313 of them, neither had a state license nor registered a motor vehicle almost 10 months later.

In the presidential race, Democrat Hillary Clinton defeated Republican Donald Trump in New Hampshire by 2,736 votes. In an even tighter race, for the Granite State’s U.S. Senate seat, Democratic challenger Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.

 

[theeedude]

According to a self serving Republican lawmaker?

 

[ivwshane]

I'm not sure when people stopped being critical of the things they read but to me it looks like we've hit a critical turning point.

Without even reading the article I can tell its full of bullshit devoid of actual facts to back up its claims and only supported by innuendo.

 

[Paratus]

At least in New Hampshire.

This is an interesting article...Im not sure I ever considered bussing in out-of-state people to vote, I didnt really think it would be so widespread. I guess it is.

Although this particular article shows it has benefitted Democrats, Im not singling out any party as Im sure this happens on both sides.

It confirms my personal opinion we need a way to verify ALL voters, EVERY time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/

Some quips:

So they don't actually know whether anyone voted illegally and don't support the whole "bussing" them in thing but they insinuate it.

The whitehouse guy refused to go into his evidence.

And this story was in the Washington Times a conservative rag.

Sounds legit.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So guy presents supposition and conjecture with no actual evidence and that is suppose to mean his conclusion is valid? This is somehow proof that thousands of people are bussed in to vote?

Between this and the other thread from TASS you guys aren't even trying any more. I await the upcoming Obama new proof about his fake birth certificate thread from one of you.

 

[blackangst1]

Who is "you guys" and why would I make a post about a fake news story about a fake birth certificate?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Who is "you guys" and why would I make a post about a fake news story about a fake birth certificate?

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Because you made this post which has absolutely no evidence of what you claim it confirms.

"You guys" are the non critical thinking sheep consumed by propaganda that confirms what you want to believe so badly. I mean do you even see that this joke of an article provides no proof for what it claims? Like any at all?

 

[brycejones]

Not this shit again....

Wasn't this a thing the great cheeto was whining about around election time and debunked then?

Dumb thread is dumb and the OP is a moron. Seriously anyone who posts this shit is dumb as a box of ducking rocks. I didn't know the OP before today but based on this thread he can go hang out with shitpost, felix, and imported muslim building.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because you made this post which has absolutely no evidence of what you claim it confirms.

"You guys" are the non critical thinking sheep consumed by propaganda that confirms what you want to believe so badly. I mean do you even see that this joke of an article provides no proof for what it claims? Like any at all?

What more do you need to know other than "It’s very real. It’s very serious." That's a damn convincing argument.

 

[brycejones]

It confirms my personal opinion we need a way to verify ALL voters, EVERY time.

:

Nothing like a little confirmation bias in the morning.

 

[blackangst1]

OK looks like I fell for fake news. Did more reading, and it appears these claims are baseless.

Let me address a couple of things:

Because you made this post which has absolutely no evidence of what you claim it confirms.

"You guys" are the non critical thinking sheep consumed by propaganda that confirms what you want to believe so badly. I mean do you even see that this joke of an article provides no proof for what it claims? Like any at all?

Im not sure what youve got stuck up your ass, but Im assuming you think Im some Fox news alt-right person? LMFAO oh how wrong you are, son. I certainly dont mind a rebuke, but next time talk like an adult, and not a spoiled child on the playground. Fair?

Not this shit again....

Wasn't this a thing the great cheeto was whining about around election time and debunked then?

Dumb thread is dumb.

Ill assume "cheeto" is some wing nut's nickname for Trump? And to answer, I have no idea. This was the first Ive read about it. I dont tend to follow wacko conspiracy theory websites so not sure what all the crazy theories are. Sounds like youre up to date though

 

[blackangst1]

Nothing like a little confirmation bias in the morning.

I can agree to disagree with folks who dont think we need verification. Im good with that. Kind of an odd stance to take, but then we're all odd I guess!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Good work on admitting your error. Now if others could do the same.

 

[Jhhnn]

At least in New Hampshire.

This is an interesting article...Im not sure I ever considered bussing in out-of-state people to vote, I didnt really think it would be so widespread. I guess it is.

Although this particular article shows it has benefitted Democrats, Im not singling out any party as Im sure this happens on both sides.

It confirms my personal opinion we need a way to verify ALL voters, EVERY time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/7/voter-fraud-alert-over-5000-new-hampshire-presiden/

Some quips:

The whole "bussing" thing is a common & empty accusation from right wing sources like Stephen Miller. When it comes down to the nitty-gritty of actually proving any of it they just fade, come back with the same bullshit whenever it suits their purposes. It's straight up conspiracy theory but that doesn't inhibit belief among the outrage addicted bunker mentalities on the Right.

 

[brycejones]

OK looks like I fell for fake news. Did more reading, and it appears these claims are baseless.

Let me address a couple of things:

Im not sure what youve got stuck up your ass, but Im assuming you think Im some Fox news alt-right person? LMFAO oh how wrong you are, son. I certainly dont mind a rebuke, but next time talk like an adult, and not a spoiled child on the playground. Fair?


Ill assume "cheeto" is some wing nut's nickname for Trump? And to answer, I have no idea. This was the first Ive read about it. I dont tend to follow wacko conspiracy theory websites so not sure what all the crazy theories are. Sounds like youre up to date though

The only reason I know what the wacko theories are is because idiots keep posting them here and some/many of them are uttered by people who have or had jobs in the west wing. See Miller, Bannon, Gorka, Trump

Kudos to you for owning you were taken in. I can respect that.

 

[blackangst1]

The whole "bussing" thing is a common & empty accusation from right wing sources like Stephen Miller. When it comes down to the nitty-gritty of actually proving any of it they just fade, come back with the same bullshit whenever it suits their purposes. It's straight up conspiracy theory but that doesn't inhibit belief among the outrage addicted bunker mentalities on the Right.

Ive never heard it nor do I know who Stephen Miller is.

And not all those on the right hide in bunkers (is that what you implied? Not sure.)

 

[blackangst1]

The only reason I know what the wacko theories are is because idiots keep posting them here and some/many of them are uttered by people who have or had jobs in the west wing. See Miller, Bannon, Gorka, Trump

Kudos to you for owning you were taken in. I can respect that.

Well unlike most here and in the real world I dont discount news stories based on their origin nor do I discount words based on who spoke them. Its not a common trait, I know. The fact is a news story *can* in fact have more than one side, with both sides being equally correct (see the blind men and the elephant for my reasoning)

 

[brycejones]

I can agree to disagree with folks who dont think we need verification. Im good with that. Kind of an odd stance to take, but then we're all odd I guess!

Serious question, what provable problem are you trying to solve? I lived in Kansas and the SoS there has spent more than a decade going on and on about how widespread voter fraud was. After he took office he even convinced the state legislature to give him unique in the country powers to prosecute voter fraud cases as the SoS. In the end after many investigations he has found very few cases and the vast majority of the cases he has prosecuted have been old people who voted in two different jurisdictions because they had two homes.

Prove there is an actual problem and I'll be right there with you until then some folks want to kill gnats with hydrogen bombs and I do have a problem with that.

 

[brycejones]

Ive never heard it nor do I know who Stephen Miller is.

And not all those on the right hide in bunkers (is that what you implied? Not sure.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)

I'm curious what sources do you use? The guy has been on most of the news channels/shows and has stirred the pot more than a few times. Do you know who Bannon and Gorka are?

 

[ivwshane]

Thank you OP for admitting your error.

It would be even more respectable if you created a post and debunked the article point by point.

 

[blackangst1]

Serious question, what provable problem are you trying to solve? I lived in Kansas and the SoS there has spent more than a decade going on and on about how widespread voter fraud was. After he took office he even convinced the state legislature to give him unique in the country powers to prosecute voter fraud cases as the SoS. In the end after many investigations he has found very few cases and the vast majority of the cases he has prosecuted have been old people who voted in two different jurisdictions because they had two homes.

Prove there is an actual problem and I'll be right there with you until then some folks want to kill gnats with hydrogen bombs and I do have a problem with that.

Im not trying to solve any problem per se. But, as a network security engineer by trade I always look for ways things can be exploited. Ive never said I thought voter fraud is a major issue, because I dont. I am sure it happens, but not sure if it happens enough to swing elections (including the Russia bullshit). My only point is Id like to see something put in place to reduce it as much as possible. Thats it.

 

[blackangst1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)

I'm curious what sources do you use? The guy has been on most of the news channels/shows and has stirred the pot more than a few times. Do you know who Bannon and Gorka are?

My bad. Saw a few youtube's....I know who he is. And yes I know who Bannon and Gorka are.

 

[theeedude]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...raud-in-new-hampshire-should-be-disqualifying

Kobach should resign. No one except Trumpers is falling for his lies to justify vote suppression.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And if anyone had any doubts left about the joke of an election integrity commission Trump put together, I give you Kris Kobach himself.

What a sad, predictable farce this admin is.

 

[JSt0rm]

good job op.