I respect the work that people put into thier cars. Usually the guy who does all the performance work to his car is going to be a fan of most cars. Then theres the "Fast and the Furious" crowd. Most annyoning. I love it when kids in Integra's look at my '03 Cobra like it's a V6. I usually smile and wind out a gear and let them catch up. It's all about the research.
All I know is I prefer my turbos big and with lots of PSI. Now this civic is running 1bar or 14.5PSI. My GN stock was running 15psi and with a 93oct chip I run 17-18psi on the street. LOTS of my buddies have gone over to alky/water injection and run 108oct chips on the street with 30+PSI and yes that is 2bars!! You want to talk about brown spots in the seat.
As far as long runs the silver state classic is where you want to be. And guess who won an 87 buick running over 200mph
dont believe me check it yourself
200mph Buick!
And for smoke you cant beat this
smoking!
Also tell the Civic to look for me. Black Buick with the plate NO4NJNK. Tends to make em mad when I pass.
Edit Hey Yeild was this the guy with the caravan? If so he was in the 13's and looking for 10's last I talked to him.
Slugmobile Mini the van
As far as long runs the silver state classic is where you want to be. And guess who won an 87 buick running over 200mph
dont believe me check it yourself
200mph Buick!
And for smoke you cant beat this
smoking!
Also tell the Civic to look for me. Black Buick with the plate NO4NJNK. Tends to make em mad when I pass.
Edit Hey Yeild was this the guy with the caravan? If so he was in the 13's and looking for 10's last I talked to him.
Slugmobile Mini the van
alkemyst
No Lifer
- Feb 13, 2001
- 83,769
- 19
- 81
Just some observations on people who really know nothing about cars:
Most 'supercars' are inherently unrelable...fit and finish is terrible and often the cars have to be taken back to the dealership for panels popping off, etc. In the last years some of this is improving and people are getting cars they can tolerate for more than just driving down to the club to impress. Also most people's 'supercars' are like a WS6 Firebird or Cobra Mustang heheh I don't think so.
To put a civic into the 300hp range would cost $2-3k unless you decided to use all HKS/Greddy/whatever high $$$$ parts. The internal forces placed on the engine is negliable as long as no detonation is encountered and that is what ends up killing most of these cars. People slapping on a 6-10psi 'kit' and then 'cranking' up the boost to 14-15 and running lean, thus blowing their engines. You can add about 50% more horsepower to any car with about 6-10psi and not encounter any substantial increase of loads to the engine internals...providing you do not detonate. I like the civic for what it offers, but would never drive a car that common...same reason I would not drive a IS300, Porsche 911-993, etc....I would see myself coming and going all the time. I want a unique car I made, not a 'super touring' piece of crap only covered in stickers and a 10 foot aluminum wing, but a nice car.
A front wheel drive car has much evolved since the beginning...LSD's and other traction devices can help manage high powered front wheel drive cars. In some cases a FWD car makes for a better everyday driver. The best is AWD in my opinion for my driving desires.
I am keeping my 1996 Saturn SC2, I own it I like the way it handles and drives (2400lb car with a space frame actually). The only thing that really separates the ultra high end cars from the economy boxes is mostly the finishing details and some extra 'toys' inside. It's not simple or cheap, but for me to have a one of a kind car, tailored for me is my goal....I don't care what the label says on the outside, I would rather not have any monthly payments at all...I do all my own work for the most part on the mechanicals, but I will have to hire a pro to redo the interior mostly. I will have about less into my car when I am done than it would take to purchase a car of equal performance and quality. It will run about 350hp in street trim, possibly 425 if I want to take it to a track. At 220hp most people with my car have turned 13.9's, that is only a $2k-3k investment.
It comes down to this...there are about 3 kinds of people:
1) those that say they love their car and will kept it forever, then start making more money and upgrade.
2) those that have to have the latest and greatest to impress....it's not about variety usually, but some do like to drive in all the toys, of the former person they are constantly financially strapped due to cars (they take major losses on each trade in only to have the next best thing that rolls out).
3) those that want a one of a kind car...it may be a ultra high HP racer, a canyon carver, some sort of side show for electronics and stereo gear, whatever. They have the means to buy a newer car or one with a 'better' name, but choose to keep what they have.
I have had a fully restored 1966 mustang GT that was also pretty built up...I replaced anything that was not servicable with new Ford parts when available and aftermarket when not...down to every bolt and screw.
I had a 1988 T-Topped Mustang GT running in full motorsports trim plus some. A 1997 VW GTI VR6 also built up, but more for handling than 1/4 time times (though it was capable of those and I was often clamed of using NAWWWS or a turbo), and a few other cars I didn't care for....I got my 1996 Saturn SC2 to go back to school with, but now that I am out working I like it, and will keep it. Things are made to be easy to work on in the car and mine is put together well...most people think I am joking when I say its a Saturn.
If anyone cares: My Car later this year is engine turbo and transmission, then next year paint and interior and I am done.
Most 'supercars' are inherently unrelable...fit and finish is terrible and often the cars have to be taken back to the dealership for panels popping off, etc. In the last years some of this is improving and people are getting cars they can tolerate for more than just driving down to the club to impress. Also most people's 'supercars' are like a WS6 Firebird or Cobra Mustang heheh I don't think so.
To put a civic into the 300hp range would cost $2-3k unless you decided to use all HKS/Greddy/whatever high $$$$ parts. The internal forces placed on the engine is negliable as long as no detonation is encountered and that is what ends up killing most of these cars. People slapping on a 6-10psi 'kit' and then 'cranking' up the boost to 14-15 and running lean, thus blowing their engines. You can add about 50% more horsepower to any car with about 6-10psi and not encounter any substantial increase of loads to the engine internals...providing you do not detonate. I like the civic for what it offers, but would never drive a car that common...same reason I would not drive a IS300, Porsche 911-993, etc....I would see myself coming and going all the time. I want a unique car I made, not a 'super touring' piece of crap only covered in stickers and a 10 foot aluminum wing, but a nice car.
A front wheel drive car has much evolved since the beginning...LSD's and other traction devices can help manage high powered front wheel drive cars. In some cases a FWD car makes for a better everyday driver. The best is AWD in my opinion for my driving desires.
I am keeping my 1996 Saturn SC2, I own it I like the way it handles and drives (2400lb car with a space frame actually). The only thing that really separates the ultra high end cars from the economy boxes is mostly the finishing details and some extra 'toys' inside. It's not simple or cheap, but for me to have a one of a kind car, tailored for me is my goal....I don't care what the label says on the outside, I would rather not have any monthly payments at all...I do all my own work for the most part on the mechanicals, but I will have to hire a pro to redo the interior mostly. I will have about less into my car when I am done than it would take to purchase a car of equal performance and quality. It will run about 350hp in street trim, possibly 425 if I want to take it to a track. At 220hp most people with my car have turned 13.9's, that is only a $2k-3k investment.
It comes down to this...there are about 3 kinds of people:
1) those that say they love their car and will kept it forever, then start making more money and upgrade.
2) those that have to have the latest and greatest to impress....it's not about variety usually, but some do like to drive in all the toys, of the former person they are constantly financially strapped due to cars (they take major losses on each trade in only to have the next best thing that rolls out).
3) those that want a one of a kind car...it may be a ultra high HP racer, a canyon carver, some sort of side show for electronics and stereo gear
, whatever. They have the means to buy a newer car or one with a 'better' name, but choose to keep what they have.I have had a fully restored 1966 mustang GT that was also pretty built up...I replaced anything that was not servicable with new Ford parts when available and aftermarket when not...down to every bolt and screw.
I had a 1988 T-Topped Mustang GT running in full motorsports trim plus some. A 1997 VW GTI VR6 also built up, but more for handling than 1/4 time times (though it was capable of those and I was often clamed of using NAWWWS or a turbo
), and a few other cars I didn't care for....I got my 1996 Saturn SC2 to go back to school with, but now that I am out working I like it, and will keep it. Things are made to be easy to work on in the car and mine is put together well...most people think I am joking when I say its a Saturn. If anyone cares: My Car later this year is engine turbo and transmission, then next year paint and interior and I am done.
geno
Lifer
- Dec 26, 1999
- 25,074
- 4
- 0
The owner of Slugmobile and the Minivan (I think he called it the Mean Mini) was Gus. He recently passed away in a motorcycle accident
he was brilliant when it came to Turbo Dodges, and those two cars are proof of it...One of the fastes out there is Gary Dunovan, he's running 10's in his Plymouth Reliant (here's his site) - now, his car isn't streetable, but to the people who think FWD turbo cars are crap, there's people swapping 16V heads to these cars, and one example is pushing 500ft lbs to the wheels @ 16psi. Don't sleep.
SaigonK
Diamond Member
Tell me again why you would put $10,000 into a $5,000 car? Seems sort of ridiculous to me.
I drive my NIssan Altima (1998) to work 35 miles one way each day...it can do 100mph just like everyone else's car can..no after market crap installed on it.
no after market "make it look fast but it really is still just a Honda" stuff.
So you can get to 12 second quarter miles faster than i can..oh boy! Sign me up, oh wait that;s right...you cant drive like that on the street anyway....
All I am saying is i didnt drop a dime into my Altima, i like it because it is reliable and gets good gas mileage.
It can do well over 100mph...had it up to 115mph verified with my GPS.
All sotck...all the time..no extra cash....i get higher top speeds than 90% of the souped up "wanna-be" civics and old ass acura knock-offs with their lame ass "R-type" stickers...funny how they don;t make 10% of the cars out their as R-type...but 90 of them have that sticker.
I drive my NIssan Altima (1998) to work 35 miles one way each day...it can do 100mph just like everyone else's car can..no after market crap installed on it.
no after market "make it look fast but it really is still just a Honda" stuff.
So you can get to 12 second quarter miles faster than i can..oh boy! Sign me up, oh wait that;s right...you cant drive like that on the street anyway....
All I am saying is i didnt drop a dime into my Altima, i like it because it is reliable and gets good gas mileage.
It can do well over 100mph...had it up to 115mph verified with my GPS.
All sotck...all the time..no extra cash....i get higher top speeds than 90% of the souped up "wanna-be" civics and old ass acura knock-offs with their lame ass "R-type" stickers...funny how they don;t make 10% of the cars out their as R-type...but 90 of them have that sticker.
Originally posted by: SaigonK
Tell me again why you would put $10,000 into a $5,000 car? Seems sort of ridiculous to me.
I drive my NIssan Altima (1998) to work 35 miles one way each day...it can do 100mph just like everyone else's car can..no after market crap installed on it.
no after market "make it look fast but it really is still just a Honda" stuff.
So you can get to 12 second quarter miles faster than i can..oh boy! Sign me up, oh wait that;s right...you cant drive like that on the street anyway....
All I am saying is i didnt drop a dime into my Altima, i like it because it is reliable and gets good gas mileage.
It can do well over 100mph...had it up to 115mph verified with my GPS.
All sotck...all the time..no extra cash....i get higher top speeds than 90% of the souped up "wanna-be" civics and old ass acura knock-offs with their lame ass "R-type" stickers...funny how they don;t make 10% of the cars out their as R-type...but 90 of them have that sticker.
Why would you even say anything, since you obviously aren't an enthusiast.
jlee
Lifer
- Sep 12, 2001
- 48,518
- 223
- 106
Originally posted by: SaigonK
Tell me again why you would put $10,000 into a $5,000 car? Seems sort of ridiculous to me.
I drive my NIssan Altima (1998) to work 35 miles one way each day...it can do 100mph just like everyone else's car can..no after market crap installed on it.
no after market "make it look fast but it really is still just a Honda" stuff.
So you can get to 12 second quarter miles faster than i can..oh boy! Sign me up, oh wait that;s right...you cant drive like that on the street anyway....
All I am saying is i didnt drop a dime into my Altima, i like it because it is reliable and gets good gas mileage.
It can do well over 100mph...had it up to 115mph verified with my GPS.
All sotck...all the time..no extra cash....i get higher top speeds than 90% of the souped up "wanna-be" civics and old ass acura knock-offs with their lame ass "R-type" stickers...funny how they don;t make 10% of the cars out their as R-type...but 90 of them have that sticker.
Can't drive on the street that way...but you've had yours to 115mph? Heh...so, I take it that wasn't on the street, eh?
115mph isn't anything special...my car is limited to 115, but I haven't had it that high..yet. I may try and find a track to test it on sometime, just for kicks..but it's a '98 Corolla CE - not meant to be fast.
Somehow I doubt you have a higher top end than most (if any) modified cars..considering a *stock* 2002 Civic Si can reach ~125mph. http://beta.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=8542
I drive a japanese import and I do that for the economy and reliability. Civic's fall into this category for me though I do not drive one of those.
When I see a civic modded up with all the stickers and wings and such, it seems like a 'wannabe' or 'I can do it' type. Sure it may be fast but it just doesnt have that air to it as a speedster or muscle car. I guess thats why they dont really show a lot of these kind of cars in movies.
When I see a mustang, what I see is power and muscle. Sure you can mod a civic and make it fast but what if you mod an already fast car like the mustang and pump that sucker up with steroids. That would be sweet.
Just an IMHO.
When I see a civic modded up with all the stickers and wings and such, it seems like a 'wannabe' or 'I can do it' type. Sure it may be fast but it just doesnt have that air to it as a speedster or muscle car. I guess thats why they dont really show a lot of these kind of cars in movies.
When I see a mustang, what I see is power and muscle. Sure you can mod a civic and make it fast but what if you mod an already fast car like the mustang and pump that sucker up with steroids. That would be sweet.
Just an IMHO.
You do know that V6 mustangs are slow as fuk right ??
and you do know that the majority of the mustangs out there are v6's~
Well I also do know that the majority of civics are slow as fuk too. And the majority of them are not even V6 either.
Civics just look plain silly all dressed up.
My friends Rocket Launcher will fragment your friends HummerOriginally posted by: Ime
My friend's Hummer will flatten your Civic.
DivideBYZero
Lifer
- May 18, 2001
- 24,117
- 2
- 0
Originally posted by: Sketcher
My friends Rocket Launcher will fragment your friends HummerOriginally posted by: Ime
My friend's Hummer will flatten your Civic.
If you don't own it, don't pimp it.
Zactly... kinda like my sigOriginally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Sketcher
My friends Rocket Launcher will fragment your friends HummerOriginally posted by: Ime
My friend's Hummer will flatten your Civic.
If you don't own it, don't pimp it.
I just sold my 1991 Honda Cr-X si with a b16A motor and T3 turbo. Mugen Cr-X
Here is a pic take back in 1995 before the turbo was installed. Boy do I wish those days. My buddy used to work for HKS so I got my turbo, intercooler, evc, and blow off valve for CHEAP!!!
Best time I got at Terminal Island up in Long Beach (before turbo, did not time with turbo) was 13.6 s in 1/4 mile. Slicks only, no NOS and all motor.
Here is a pic take back in 1995 before the turbo was installed. Boy do I wish those days. My buddy used to work for HKS so I got my turbo, intercooler, evc, and blow off valve for CHEAP!!!
Best time I got at Terminal Island up in Long Beach (before turbo, did not time with turbo) was 13.6 s in 1/4 mile. Slicks only, no NOS and all motor.
jjmIII
Diamond Member
- Mar 13, 2001
- 8,399
- 1
- 81
Ya know, I'm 29 years old now.
Just old enough to want to fool with V8's, and not imports. Have a suped up CJ5 to prove it.
Thing is......some of you are just being jerks to the younger generation. Sure they supe up Hondas, Nissans, ETC. Thats what they know...just like you know V8's. Try not to be such OLD FARTS !!
Can't wait to see how CRAZY FAST these young people make small engines go. Keep up the good work you Ricers.
Just old enough to want to fool with V8's, and not imports. Have a suped up CJ5 to prove it.
Thing is......some of you are just being jerks to the younger generation. Sure they supe up Hondas, Nissans, ETC. Thats what they know...just like you know V8's. Try not to be such OLD FARTS !!
Can't wait to see how CRAZY FAST these young people make small engines go. Keep up the good work you Ricers.
youre right it is the S2000 with the 10k rpm redline, and on a 4banger too!
coulda sworn that was one of the things they were pushing at the show i the NSX at.... maybe thats the max rpms on the tach.
coulda sworn that was one of the things they were pushing at the show i the NSX at.... maybe thats the max rpms on the tach.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 24K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter