so i got to ride in this 300hp civic last night

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer
I don't, unless I'm trying to turn onto a main road trying to leave Fry's with a truck coming at me. The point is, some cars are FWD.

you should go out the back way from fry's. taking parmer takes forever.

 

[fitzhue]

not that i'm a big fan of civics or anything, but i can still appreciate the power and the work done. i imagine driving a high-reving (manual i hope) car with a turbo would be pretty fun. my friend has a '91 300ZX TT and its just a blast to even ride in. while im not comparing a civic to a Z, i imagine that its still a pretty fun car to drive.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: gregshin
He had this bottom end micropolished, T3 turbo setup running at 1 bar which is about 15psi...wastegate, BOV and the whole 9 yards...AND NO there was no NAAAAAWZ of any kind...

It was intresting being in a car that can rev very high with a turbo....the car sounded decent....not like a fart can...that is rice done right

Torque steer?

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
So, where's the dyno sheet proving his claim of "300 horsehower"? I'm doubting that you can get that much power out of a Honda Civic engine without resorting to nitrous.

Don't doubt it - 300HP is nothing when it comes to boost, especially 15 psi on a well-flowing 16V motor.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
So, where's the dyno sheet proving his claim of "300 horsehower"? I'm doubting that you can get that much power out of a Honda Civic engine without resorting to nitrous.

Don't doubt it - 300HP is nothing when it comes to boost, especially 15 psi on a well-flowing 16V motor.

300 HP with ease.
they have gotten alot more HP out of engines that size than just a measly 300.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Whatever happened to appreciating the work done to a car, any car.

In its class for general transportation, the Civic is one of the best in its class.

Now I wouldn't modify a Civic, cause well, there's nothing special about it anymore and everyone has one.

I have dreams of getting a Ford Festiva or Geo Metro and dropping the 1.6L engine they had in Europe and turbo-ing that. It'd make quite the sleeper.

Now everyone would say its a Festiva or Metro. True, but its a FAST Festiva/Metro.

Either that or the Turbo Caravans. Something unique.

Don't hate, appreciate!

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Whatever happened to appreciating the work done to a car, any car.

In its class for general transportation, the Civic is one of the best in its class.

Now I wouldn't modify a Civic, cause well, there's nothing special about it anymore and everyone has one.

I have dreams of getting a Ford Festiva or Geo Metro and dropping the 1.6L engine they had in Europe and turbo-ing that. It'd make quite the sleeper.

Now everyone would say its a Festiva or Metro. True, but its a FAST Festiva/Metro.

Either that or the Turbo Caravans. Something unique.

Don't hate, appreciate!

I'm with you on that one.. for sure, 100% agree-ance.
My friend has a Turbo Caravan that runs low 14's!

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Whatever happened to appreciating the work done to a car, any car.

In its class for general transportation, the Civic is one of the best in its class.

Now I wouldn't modify a Civic, cause well, there's nothing special about it anymore and everyone has one.

I have dreams of getting a Ford Festiva or Geo Metro and dropping the 1.6L engine they had in Europe and turbo-ing that. It'd make quite the sleeper.

Now everyone would say its a Festiva or Metro. True, but its a FAST Festiva/Metro.

Either that or the Turbo Caravans. Something unique.

Don't hate, appreciate!

Thank you! The thing that gets me, is 90% of the people who bashed the hell out of the idea of driving a 300HP Civic would probably $hit themselves during a test drive

Fast is fast, and I'm a person that respects speed and work that's been put into a car immensely. You have to care about a car in order to make it faster on your own, that in itself deserves respect IMO.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
So, where's the dyno sheet proving his claim of "300 horsehower"? I'm doubting that you can get that much power out of a Honda Civic engine without resorting to nitrous.

I don't doubt ability of those Honda Bseries blocks to pump out 300bhp without nitrous... but I doubt ANY hp claims until I see a dyno sheet for timeslips to prove it!
And even if it's 300hp on the dyno... it still could be a dyno queen. 300fwhp is a lot at the crank... more than a simple turbo kit and built engine will dish out without proper tuning. Too many people just quote mods and say "I have XXXhp and have XXsecond car." Color me skeptical but I'd rather someone be honest and say they don't know.

To those people that think Civics aren't race cars... they should qualify their statements. They are not made as DRAG cars... for autocross, roadracing, they can be great racecars! ITR me...

Most people would prolly $hit themselves in any 300hp car... but some of us are a tad jaded.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Whatever happened to appreciating the work done to a car, any car.

In its class for general transportation, the Civic is one of the best in its class.

Now I wouldn't modify a Civic, cause well, there's nothing special about it anymore and everyone has one.

I have dreams of getting a Ford Festiva or Geo Metro and dropping the 1.6L engine they had in Europe and turbo-ing that. It'd make quite the sleeper.

Now everyone would say its a Festiva or Metro. True, but its a FAST Festiva/Metro.

Either that or the Turbo Caravans. Something unique.

Don't hate, appreciate!

Thank you! The thing that gets me, is 90% of the people who bashed the hell out of the idea of driving a 300HP Civic would probably $hit themselves during a test drive

Fast is fast, and I'm a person that respects speed and work that's been put into a car immensely. You have to care about a car in order to make it faster on your own, that in itself deserves respect IMO.

Exactly. I met a guy who races those old Civics, and by old I mean EARLY 80s Civics with 1.5L carb'ed engine making all of 70hp stock. He has two of those, one that is street legal and one that isn't. The non-street legal one has a roll-cage, hole in the hood right about teh carb, has some engine mods, and the point is he has great fun racing it! He also took a Mercury Tracer (which is apparently an Escort, I've never actually seen one before) and put in the JDM Mazda 2.5L V6 in there. He had to use the front subframe off a MX3 and custom weld it in the car.

Now he has a perfectly stock looking Tracer that runs 13s in the 1/4mi. He even showed me part of the front axle/halfshaft that he broke while racing it at the track. Apparently he's broken more than 5 of them. He eventually sold the car to someone else and now started a F-body project car.

This is a guy who has true appreciation for cars. He makes custom turbokits for people, he was telling me how he made one for a Saturn. He had to custom weld the exhaust manifold. I was in awe!

The point is, it takes a true auto enthusiast to see something special in a relatively low-key car like a Saturn or Tracer or watever. Anyone appreciates a Viper, but how many people do you know will take the time and effor to research and build a 13s Tracer?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: spidey07
still a civic

Its a civic. An economy car.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
actaully FWD cars are better for regular driving...

No they aren't.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: isekii A supra engine could put out 350+ horsepower with stock internals without any reliability problems~ 2JZ-GE

It's around 600 if I remember correctly. Talk to dtyn, he's the resident MKIV Supra guy.

Ah, missed this post earlier. Yea, a MKIV Supra can put out around 550 horses on stock twins, switch it to a larger single and you can bump it up to between 600-650 hp without modding internals. That's why I love the Supra

And they all still run 12's.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: isekii A supra engine could put out 350+ horsepower with stock internals without any reliability problems~ 2JZ-GE

It's around 600 if I remember correctly. Talk to dtyn, he's the resident MKIV Supra guy.

Ah, missed this post earlier. Yea, a MKIV Supra can put out around 550 horses on stock twins, switch it to a larger single and you can bump it up to between 600-650 hp without modding internals. That's why I love the Supra

And they all still run 12's.

So? What does that prove? Maybe the 1/4mi isn't the correct measuring tool for their performance? Maybe a 1 mile race would properly quantify their performance. A 600hp car is going to face traction issues on street tire, 1/4mi time isn't an accurate represntation of their speed since they are probably spinning tires thru the first few gears. A top speed run through 1 or 2 miles would accurately gauge their performance.

Don't bash a car if it can't get a good 1/4mi time. 1/4mi is only one type of speed measurement tool. If the car is designed for top speed runs so be it.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: isekii A supra engine could put out 350+ horsepower with stock internals without any reliability problems~ 2JZ-GE

It's around 600 if I remember correctly. Talk to dtyn, he's the resident MKIV Supra guy.

Ah, missed this post earlier. Yea, a MKIV Supra can put out around 550 horses on stock twins, switch it to a larger single and you can bump it up to between 600-650 hp without modding internals. That's why I love the Supra

And they all still run 12's.

So? What does that prove? Maybe the 1/4mi isn't the correct measuring tool for their performance? Maybe a 1 mile race would properly quantify their performance. A 600hp car is going to face traction issues on street tire, 1/4mi time isn't an accurate represntation of their speed since they are probably spinning tires thru the first few gears. A top speed run through 1 or 2 miles would accurately gauge their performance.

Don't bash a car if it can't get a good 1/4mi time. 1/4mi is only one type of speed measurement tool. If the car is designed for top speed runs so be it.

Why do you not think I am aware of this? Supra's are dyno queens and highway kings. What I said was true. You don't think I know a 600HP car will face traction issues? LOL...

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: isekii A supra engine could put out 350+ horsepower with stock internals without any reliability problems~ 2JZ-GE

It's around 600 if I remember correctly. Talk to dtyn, he's the resident MKIV Supra guy.

Ah, missed this post earlier. Yea, a MKIV Supra can put out around 550 horses on stock twins, switch it to a larger single and you can bump it up to between 600-650 hp without modding internals. That's why I love the Supra

And they all still run 12's.

So? What does that prove? Maybe the 1/4mi isn't the correct measuring tool for their performance? Maybe a 1 mile race would properly quantify their performance. A 600hp car is going to face traction issues on street tire, 1/4mi time isn't an accurate represntation of their speed since they are probably spinning tires thru the first few gears. A top speed run through 1 or 2 miles would accurately gauge their performance.

Don't bash a car if it can't get a good 1/4mi time. 1/4mi is only one type of speed measurement tool. If the car is designed for top speed runs so be it.

Why do you not think I am aware of this? Supra's are dyno queens and highway kings. What I said was true. You don't think I know a 600HP car will face traction issues? LOL...

Sorry. I thought you meant the car was crap just cause it ran 12s with 600hp.

In any case, maybe someone reading this learnt something about the 1/4mi and how different speed measurement tools are needed for different type of vehicles.

 

[AUMM]

Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Isekii, you are the one who seems to be missing the point. Allow me to clarify for you:

There is nothing wrong with the Civic. It's a relatively low performing, uncomfortable, and depending upon who you ask ugly compact sedan, but it's cheap, reliable and efficient. It is good at those things. Nobody is arguing against that. Now spending lots of cash trying to make a car like that fast is what people think is ridiculous. Why not take the money and buy a nicer car to begin with if you want something fast? You could have a better looking, faster, more comfortable car for the money it takes to turn the plain, boring, front wheel drive Civic into a lean, mean, rice machine. There is nothing wrong with the car, but there is something inherently illogical with trying to make it into something it was not meant to be.

people in this thread seem to be just bashing the civic, personally i think they are great cars, cheap, dependable, good gas mileage, not terrible looking ...

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: BatmanNate

Originally posted by: isekii A supra engine could put out 350+ horsepower with stock internals without any reliability problems~ 2JZ-GE

It's around 600 if I remember correctly. Talk to dtyn, he's the resident MKIV Supra guy.

Ah, missed this post earlier. Yea, a MKIV Supra can put out around 550 horses on stock twins, switch it to a larger single and you can bump it up to between 600-650 hp without modding internals. That's why I love the Supra

And they all still run 12's.

So? What does that prove? Maybe the 1/4mi isn't the correct measuring tool for their performance? Maybe a 1 mile race would properly quantify their performance. A 600hp car is going to face traction issues on street tire, 1/4mi time isn't an accurate represntation of their speed since they are probably spinning tires thru the first few gears. A top speed run through 1 or 2 miles would accurately gauge their performance.

Don't bash a car if it can't get a good 1/4mi time. 1/4mi is only one type of speed measurement tool. If the car is designed for top speed runs so be it.

Why do you not think I am aware of this? Supra's are dyno queens and highway kings. What I said was true. You don't think I know a 600HP car will face traction issues? LOL...

Easy solution... look at the friggin trap speed. That'll tell you how fast the car is... literally, and it gives you a good idea of how much power it's making, especially if you have a dog slow 60ft due to traction issues. It's pretty much the same for nearly all cars other than AWDs and cars on slicks... it's always a traction issue.

 

[roncarter]

Originally posted by: Spac3d
It is still a crappy civic, no matter what you do to it. It isn't some super car because it has 300hp, it is a Honda Civic.

Its a faster Civic dummy

 

[3L33T32003]

being the best in a shitty class doesnt make for a good arguement.

Hm. My civic dx hatchback is from 98, it has well over 100k miles on it, and the only service I have had to do is scheduled mtc. When I got the car, it made 32 miles/gallon. Now it gives me 31 mpg. My wife has gone thru three domestic cars in the same time period.

I am almost 6' tall and weigh about 250...and it is comfortable on the inside.

You can keep your overweight, oversized, junk American cars, thank you.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: Rent

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Vortex

Originally posted by: isekii
it's so funny how people are saying~

it's still a crappy civic~

what other domestic car is better in it's class ? ?

Civic is prolly one of the best car in it's class~

you cant polish a turd

This is why there is no point of posting about imports on this forum~
bunch of ignorant people making asshat comments~

If civic is a turd then I guess~ your domestics are far below that~

Its nice that you automatically flame everyone and anyone who doesn't like imports. Grow up.

yeah, because everyone else was being so mature.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: Amused
This kills me.

With all the damn money he spent on that, he could have bought a really nice car.

do we know how much he spent?

 

[GasX]

Here's a 350HP Civic that I woudln't mind driving...

Still, the money spent to get this car like that would more than pay for a car show quality 1966 Ford Mustang GT Fastback and a beater to drive around on rainy days...

 

[Monel Funkawitz]

A 300 hp Civic is like a pair of Acme Rocket Powered Roller Skates. They go in a straight line, but don't plan on turning or stopping.

I like racing guys like this in my stang. Not only can I out run them at 531Hp, but I can out corner and outbrake. All in a 98 Sleeper. I've had kids get so pissed that a Stang beat them, I was seriously afraid I was gonna get shot at.

Oh, and dispite what ricers say, front wheel drive SUCKS ASS. It ain't made to launch from a stop, under any kind of control. Accelleration & turning at the same time with a FWD high HP car is another funny thing to watch.

BTW, nitrous isn't a bad thing. I enjoy getting 14ish MPG cruisng around town. 300+ horse blown Civics get like 80 miles per tank.

 

[Monel Funkawitz]

I also love how people get all hyped up over Civics.

Its funny how their perception of a economy car turns into a Ferarri with a turbo, Wal Mart seat covers, and a hula dancer on the dash.