so i got to ride in this 300hp civic last night

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BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Isekii, you are the one who seems to be missing the point. Allow me to clarify for you:

There is nothing wrong with the Civic. It's a relatively low performing, uncomfortable, and depending upon who you ask ugly compact sedan, but it's cheap, reliable and efficient. It is good at those things. Nobody is arguing against that. Now spending lots of cash trying to make a car like that fast is what people think is ridiculous. Why not take the money and buy a nicer car to begin with if you want something fast? You could have a better looking, faster, more comfortable car for the money it takes to turn the plain, boring, front wheel drive Civic into a lean, mean, rice machine. There is nothing wrong with the car, but there is something inherently illogical with trying to make it into something it was not meant to be.

Yes there is nothing wrong with a civic. To make a civic fast doesn't take much money that is why a lot of people purchase it and mod it.
For a cheap car it's quite comfortable and the performance is above average imo, and i think it looks a lot better than a Neon, Focus, or a Cavalier.


To get a Civic like mentioned in the title running 15psi on a turbo, you're looking at close to 10 grand if not more. That's enough to buy a car that comes stock with over 300hp.
 

godmare

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Once, I saw a blue, four door 1997 Chevy Cavallier - not the z24, even, with an auto trans and one mod done: A fvcking $500 carbon fiber wing screwed to the trunk lid!!
That was beyond the beyond, and lower than I've ever seen anything. I'd take a Civic with no wheels before I drove that thing.
 

spidey07

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MichaelD,

I've read many article and books on marketing. One of the most sucessful campaigns was honda=reliable. But its just that, marketing. Maybe do a search on honda, marketing and repairs.
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
And on another note, your reliability argument is moot. The car is relatively reliable (relative to competing cars in its class) however when you slap a forced induction system on a car with an engine not designed for that purpose, things have a tendency to become less reliable. Especially with higher boost pressure. I don't hate import cars, I drive a Supra; I merely dislike it when people think a Civic is a race car. It's not.

not to mention the fact that the drive train on a front wheel drive car like a civic was never designed to take the kind of torque that a hyped out motor puts out. and where is the fun in all that horsepower pulling you around? look i can do a brodie if i drive backwards!

 

Rent

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Originally posted by: godmare
Once, I saw a blue, four door 1997 Chevy Cavallier - not the z24, even, with an auto trans and one mod done: A fvcking $500 carbon fiber wing screwed to the trunk lid!!
That was beyond the beyond, and lower than I've ever seen anything. I'd take a Civic with no wheels before I drove that thing.

Probably wasn't even a CF wing, more likely some aluminum piece of crap.

A wing is a wing on a Civic or a Caviler. Both look equally stupid with them bolted to the trunklid.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Vortex
Originally posted by: isekii
it's so funny how people are saying~

it's still a crappy civic~

what other domestic car is better in it's class ? ?

Civic is prolly one of the best car in it's class~

you cant polish a turd

This is why there is no point of posting about imports on this forum~
bunch of ignorant people making asshat comments~

If civic is a turd then I guess~ your domestics are far below that~

Its nice that you automatically flame everyone and anyone who doesn't like imports. Grow up.


grow up?
i'm not flaming everyone~ but the people here who are raggin on imports~
maybe you should be the one growing up~
with every import post~ 80% of the people on this forum~ automatically call out rice ~

how ignorant is that ~ ?

let me ask why do imports sell a lot better than domestics ? ?

I guess they're just that awesome of a rice burner~ so much so that it beats out the hamburger and french fries burner~

So everytime someone says rice, you're going to cry about it?

The only post that even had rice in it was the AUTHORs. Then you had to come cry about people not liking Civics.

You just start typing random ~~~~!~~ and expect people to care. Learn to punctuate, maybe your posts won't give me a siezure :Q


since when was honda Turd ?
The so called "TURD" beats out other domestic cars in it's class

CIVC: beats out neons , focus , cavalier ~ ..


the problem is people on this forum thinks every domestic car is a god send~ when in all honest truth it's not~
yes the old muscle cars are nice~
but how many cars out right now is as reliable as a import ?
which domestic gives better gas mileage with reliability and decent amount of power than an import ?

Maybe you should learn not to talk sh1t about imports right off the bat, and not try and changing the subject~ this aint friggin english class and if you do have that seizure problem go see the doctor~ and not cry about it here~

Wow, I never once mentioned :

1) Muscle cars
2) Reliability
3) Domestics > Imports

You are the one changing the subject everytime it fits your arguement. This thread was about a 300hp turbocharged civic and you want to compare regular civics to the rest of the world. Tell me how thats not changing the subject.

I didn't even talk smack about Imports. I just called you out for being a dumbass. So you can keep crying about how you think you're right. I'm sure everyone will be amused.

That's the problem... you dont know how to read~ i know this thread is about a 300hp civic ~ but everyone is saying it's still just a civic~ and i'm making the argument "what's wrong with a civic ? " It can be any civic even a 500hp one it wouldn't matter.
everytime I see an import thread come up~ everyone crys rice.
There was a supra thread a lot of people call it rice. An rx-7 thread people call it rice. Do you see how ignorant that is ?

Do you see people who dislike domestics saying crap about domestics.... even though most of them are pretty much crap... I'm not saying all of them are. I actually like a lot of domestic trucks and cars.


 

godmare

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Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: godmare
Once, I saw a blue, four door 1997 Chevy Cavallier - not the z24, even, with an auto trans and one mod done: A fvcking $500 carbon fiber wing screwed to the trunk lid!!
That was beyond the beyond, and lower than I've ever seen anything. I'd take a Civic with no wheels before I drove that thing.

Probably wasn't even a CF wing, more likely some aluminum piece of crap.

A wing is a wing on a Civic or a Caviler. Both look equally stupid with them bolted to the trunklid.

No, I got a good look at it- it was right out of an RKSport catalog. But yes, it looked absolutely ridiculous.
 

MichaelD

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Originally posted by: spidey07
MichaelD,

I've read many article and books on marketing. One of the most sucessful campaigns was honda=reliable. But its just that, marketing. Maybe do a search on honda, marketing and repairs.

*shrug* I don't have to do a search: I've owned three. Two Civics and an Accord. Aside from one clutch at 140K miles and one alternator (my fault...big stereo) I had not a single problem. Change oil/filters and they all ran like tops. :)

Sorry you got three lemons in a row. :(
 

Rent

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/cry

Perhaps you didn't notice everyone else disproving your point. You're the one with a reading comprehension problem isekii
 

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godmare

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: spidey07
MichaelD,

I've read many article and books on marketing. One of the most sucessful campaigns was honda=reliable. But its just that, marketing. Maybe do a search on honda, marketing and repairs.

*shrug* I don't have to do a search: I've owned three. Two Civics and an Accord. Aside from one clutch at 140K miles and one alternator (my fault...big stereo) I had not a single problem. Change oil/filters and they all ran like tops. :)

Sorry you got three lemons in a row. :(

Important point there. If you don't take care of your car, no matter what it is (and I'm not saying anyone specifically did not, just that people do), it will not run well or last long.
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Isekii, you are the one who seems to be missing the point. Allow me to clarify for you:

There is nothing wrong with the Civic. It's a relatively low performing, uncomfortable, and depending upon who you ask ugly compact sedan, but it's cheap, reliable and efficient. It is good at those things. Nobody is arguing against that. Now spending lots of cash trying to make a car like that fast is what people think is ridiculous. Why not take the money and buy a nicer car to begin with if you want something fast? You could have a better looking, faster, more comfortable car for the money it takes to turn the plain, boring, front wheel drive Civic into a lean, mean, rice machine. There is nothing wrong with the car, but there is something inherently illogical with trying to make it into something it was not meant to be.

Yes there is nothing wrong with a civic. To make a civic fast doesn't take much money that is why a lot of people purchase it and mod it.
For a cheap car it's quite comfortable and the performance is above average imo, and i think it looks a lot better than a Neon, Focus, or a Cavalier.


if you keep comparing turds i am going to bust a gut!
no one i know has ever claimed that a focus, neon or cavalier was anythinmore than cheap crap.
you are comparing like 4 of the cheapest most unreliable cars on the road.
look i'm comparing my civic to a ford focus! the focus has only had 17 recalls. so look how good my civic looks...

 

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Oh, here we go with this again.
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isekii

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: spidey07
MichaelD,

I've read many article and books on marketing. One of the most sucessful campaigns was honda=reliable. But its just that, marketing. Maybe do a search on honda, marketing and repairs.

*shrug* I don't have to do a search: I've owned three. Two Civics and an Accord. Aside from one clutch at 140K miles and one alternator (my fault...big stereo) I had not a single problem. Change oil/filters and they all ran like tops. :)

Sorry you got three lemons in a row. :(

I had a civic a long time ago~
I bought it used it was a 86 I believe~ with 120k miles ~ i drove it till about 200kish without any problems and gave it away to our neighbor.
Our family owns a 99 Honda CR-V with no problems whatsoever
Our family owned a Chevy Lumina APV and that crap died after putting about 60k in it.
The Chevy APV van has been replaced with the Nissan Quest SE and has been running flawless past 120k.
After the whole Chevy fiasco. I'll never turn back to a domestic except maybe the Mustang SVT

and NO i dont hate on domestics.

 

neovan

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I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)
 

SSP

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: isekii
it's so funny how people are saying~

it's still a crappy civic~

what other domestic car is better in it's class ? ?

Civic is prolly one of the best car in it's class~

What class does a 300hp turbo civic belong to?

people are saying it's a crappy civic~

can you name a domestic car that's better that it in it's class ? ?

Not the turbo charged civic ~ but a standard civic~

We're not talknig about a regular civic, we're talking about a 300hp turbo civic. Here, let me quote the title of this thread for you, since you seem to have missed it:

so i got to ride in this 300hp civic last night


I know we're talking about a 300hp civic~ but people are saying "IT"S STILL A CRAPPY CIVIC"

WHATS WRONG WITH A CIVIC ? ? ??


ABSOLUTELY NOTHING~!!!

it's a helluv alot better than a Neon or Focus in terms of reliability~ Cavalier ?? what ??
Those suck too. The Civic is great for an economy car, beyond that it's like putting Perfume on a Pig.

Ahahah! Man, I literally burst out laughing... haha perfume on a pig! buahah! :D
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)

But not everyone is stupid enough to keep their whole car stock besides the engine when they upgrade their car like that.
They'll prolly also make upgrades on suspension, transmission, and brakes as well.
Yes it'll will have torque steer but with a good driver I'm pretty sure it's manageable
 

neovan

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)

True.
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)

But not everyone is stupid enough to keep their whole car stock besides the engine when they upgrade their car like that.
They'll prolly also make upgrades on suspension, transmission, and brakes as well.
Yes it'll will have torque steer but with a good driver I'm pretty sure it's manageable


And we're up in 15-20 grand territory easy now. Plus the cost of the car. Still worth it?
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)

But not everyone is stupid enough to keep their whole car stock besides the engine when they upgrade their car like that.
They'll prolly also make upgrades on suspension, transmission, and brakes as well.
Yes it'll will have torque steer but with a good driver I'm pretty sure it's manageable

i think that the whole rice issue can be summed by saying that not everyone is stupid enough to buy a cheap car and dump more money into it than it cost to buy in the first place, to try and make it fast. when for the same money you can buy a sweet new car that is better stock than the modded piece of crap.

 

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lmao, i haven't seen that before. that is one of the funniest posts i have ever seen :p
 

neovan

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: neovan
I own a civic and yes it was riced out before but after getting 3 tickets in one day (damn Monterey Park PD), I decided to unrice it and it is back to stock. I was even in a car crew but I've now grown up. My experience with hondas are that they are very reliable, just remember to do your oil change and all the regular tuneups.

The main reason why you see so many people with them are because they are cheap, reliable and extremely modable just like any computer case. :p. I've known people who own MB, BMW to buy Civics just because they want to mod the crap out of it. I don't care what people say. Bash all you want, but I know my car won't be in the shop as much. Enjoy.


It will if you somehow manage 300hp at the front wheels. :)

But not everyone is stupid enough to keep their whole car stock besides the engine when they upgrade their car like that.
They'll prolly also make upgrades on suspension, transmission, and brakes as well.
Yes it'll will have torque steer but with a good driver I'm pretty sure it's manageable


And we're up in 15-20 grand territory easy now. Plus the cost of the car. Still worth it?

To people who can afford to do so. For me, no way in hell. I don't care. My expected delivery on my 350Z is 3/28/03. Woohoo!!! :)


 

slikmunks

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*sigh* so many haters on this board... like, haters in general, no one can ever do right unless they spend the least money, and have what everyone on the boards thinks they should have....

it's kind of funny, how, for once, it's not actually rice as rice is defined... it's a civic, that has been modded to go fast. BEFORE all you flamers come and whine "but a civic can't go fast" "it's still a fvcking civic" "a turd is still a turd" "i'd rather drive my mommybox grocery getter" "my minivan can beat that" "he should've gotten a 1st gen dsm awd turbo and modded that and had a much faster car" "a 5.0 is almost faster than that stock" "damn imports, they'll never be fast" etc, etc, etc... be thankful that he didn't just slap on a bunch of stickers, a wing, 19" wheels, carbon fiber hood, a can of nitrous that's actually a sub, neon lights under the car, and a big fart tip. i mean, isn't that what you guys usually give sh!t about when people "rice out" their cars???

bottom line, it's his car to do with as he wishes, and all the flaming online isn't going to change that. I understand everyone has their own opinions and stuff, but open your eyes... not only is this civic nicely done, it's a RARE civic... granted it's still a fwd pos, it's a fwd pos that's pushing 300 ponies... 300 ponies on a 2600~2700 pound car can beat a lot of cars out their on the street... i don't care what you guys say, not everyone goes driving around awd turbo dsms and modded to sh!t 5.0 mustangs out there...