So I got the job

UnatcoAgent

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Hey all,

first off a quick thanks to the advice people have given me during the interview process.

I got the call yesterday that after 3 interviews and 8 hours later, I'm receiving an offer in the next 10 days via snail mail for a Graphic Design position (interface and information design specifically) with a rather large U.S based firm.

They're starting me at 50k which for a design position is pretty high, and said to expect 57-60 if they hit their targets, and with full benefits. I'm very excited about this since I have 2 more months until I graduate and now I can kick back and not worry too much about post-graduation job scrambling (I owe a lot of money ahha)

Anyway, w00t!
 

ThePresence

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Congrats! :beer:

Hopefully your position is not a stress magnet, but design jobs tend to be.
I recently got offered an art director position for an ad agency that I turned down, for that reason among several others.
 

UnatcoAgent

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Yah well I'm leaving one job for this, something I started interning at and have ended up in charge of all creative development, which for a full time student has been a nightmare. I would kill for a good project manager.

It still has not set in yet I think because I have yet to sign anything, but when it gets here, woooooo
 

paulxcook

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Congrats. I'm in a similar position in that I've yet to graduate, but I"m already in a "real job" in my field of choice. Though you'll be making more money than I am starting out. Good for you.
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

Just make sure to do some print work on the side to keep your skills up.
After I left publishing I did so much web work that I started forgetting how to set up a print job correctly. Seriously :)
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Congrats! Don't expect to see a penny over $50k though.

Hah thanks ;) I don't expect it but my friend is working for them and is making 6k past what he started at in a few months :)
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

hmmm I entirely disagree with you on the easy-ness of screen work, especially when the majority of what I'm going to be doing is information design (it's an elearning firm) I would say you're right if I was doing websites or some crap

I've found the challenge with print work simply comes in technical execution, printing problems and that sort of thing etc

Thanks though!
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

hmmm I entirely disagree with you on the easy-ness of screen work, especially when the majority of what I'm going to be doing is information design (it's an elearning firm) I would say you're right if I was doing websites or some crap

I've found the challenge with print work simply comes in technical execution, printing problems and that sort of thing etc

Thanks though!
Printing problems is what I'm referring to.
From my experience printing issues are not once in a while things, it's awlays something and your deadline is a minute away. How many times have you approved a proof on the first time?

 

Zolty

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

Just make sure to do some print work on the side to keep your skills up.
After I left publishing I did so much web work that I started forgetting how to set up a print job correctly. Seriously :)

Print jobs are few and far between around here, my gf works for the universities outfacing print shop and does all the web work. Her print counterpart has 3x the experience as my gf and they make the same. Also they get way more applicants when they open a print position. My take on it is that you have to be more talented to get print jobs, just based on the applicant vs jobs offered ratio. Where as web and design jobs can still be had by someone who doesn't have that "creative spark", although those who are better still rise to the top quick.

 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

hmmm I entirely disagree with you on the easy-ness of screen work, especially when the majority of what I'm going to be doing is information design (it's an elearning firm) I would say you're right if I was doing websites or some crap

I've found the challenge with print work simply comes in technical execution, printing problems and that sort of thing etc

Thanks though!
Printing problems is what I'm referring to.
From my experience printing issues are not once in a while things, it's awlays something and your deadline is a minute away. How many times have you approved a proof on the first time?


Hah in that case you are right sir, it is a horrible experience sometimes

 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Zolty
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

Just make sure to do some print work on the side to keep your skills up.
After I left publishing I did so much web work that I started forgetting how to set up a print job correctly. Seriously :)

Print jobs are few and far between around here, my gf works for the universities outfacing print shop and does all the web work. Her print counterpart has 3x the experience as my gf and they make the same. Also they get way more applicants when they open a print position. My take on it is that you have to be more talented to get print jobs, just based on the applicant vs jobs offered ratio. Where as web and design jobs can still be had by someone who doesn't have that "creative spark", although those who are better still rise to the top quick.
I don't think web jobs require any less creativity, just less know-how. Just my opinion.
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: Zolty
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

Just make sure to do some print work on the side to keep your skills up.
After I left publishing I did so much web work that I started forgetting how to set up a print job correctly. Seriously :)

Print jobs are few and far between around here, my gf works for the universities outfacing print shop and does all the web work. Her print counterpart has 3x the experience as my gf and they make the same. Also they get way more applicants when they open a print position. My take on it is that you have to be more talented to get print jobs, just based on the applicant vs jobs offered ratio. Where as web and design jobs can still be had by someone who doesn't have that "creative spark", although those who are better still rise to the top quick.

I've found that since I've been fortunate enough to have both print and interactive/web heavy positions in the past, my skillset is pretty varied and it's something people are really starting to look form.

My program is highly specialized and about 90% of the students do print work, because although the technical execution is a pain in the ass, the learning curve is way less inclined (read: while in school) and no one wants to do interactivity because as soon as you start coding as a designer you compete with full time coders.

Tough industry

 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Zolty
That is really nice for graphic design is it print or web?
There's no chance that's a strictly a web work position.

The position entails a few things

Primarily system design and sustainability design, so the work that's done prior to any sort of development

the other half is the actual user interface design, no coding or anything though (thank god I am sick of flash I'm not that good at it)

No print work :) I am so sick of print
That's an insane salary for not doing print work.
Screen work is about 1000% times easier, as you know.
Low res jobs are the shiznit, if you can find them.
Congrats again! :thumbsup:

Just make sure to do some print work on the side to keep your skills up.
After I left publishing I did so much web work that I started forgetting how to set up a print job correctly. Seriously :)

Print jobs are few and far between around here, my gf works for the universities outfacing print shop and does all the web work. Her print counterpart has 3x the experience as my gf and they make the same. Also they get way more applicants when they open a print position. My take on it is that you have to be more talented to get print jobs, just based on the applicant vs jobs offered ratio. Where as web and design jobs can still be had by someone who doesn't have that "creative spark", although those who are better still rise to the top quick.
I don't think web jobs require any less creativity, just less know-how. Just my opinion.

If you're doing an interactive piece and you want to do it right, you have to know an incredible amount about designing a user experience which is effective and easy to use - look at apple and Microsoft for a good comparison - you can't really compare print and web in terms of design difficulty because you're looking at often entirely different areas of knowledge.


 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Sabot
I've found that since I've been fortunate enough to have both print and interactive/web heavy positions in the past, my skillset is pretty varied and it's something people are really starting to look form.

My program is highly specialized and about 90% of the students do print work, because although the technical execution is a pain in the ass, the learning curve is way less inclined (read: while in school) and no one wants to do interactivity because as soon as you start coding as a designer you compete with full time coders.

Tough industry
What you say is very true.
The only time it's worth it is you're going to open your own place.
People would rather have one place to go to, than having to find a programmer here and a design guy here. And that's what I do. I have my own place, I do my own flash work as well. But on any big job web I bring in real code monkeys. :)

EDIT: But right now about 60-65% of my work is designing websites for a webdesign company. They send me all their design work, and I love that stuff. It's a breeze to do and I make good money off it.
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
I've found that since I've been fortunate enough to have both print and interactive/web heavy positions in the past, my skillset is pretty varied and it's something people are really starting to look form.

My program is highly specialized and about 90% of the students do print work, because although the technical execution is a pain in the ass, the learning curve is way less inclined (read: while in school) and no one wants to do interactivity because as soon as you start coding as a designer you compete with full time coders.

Tough industry
What you say is very true.
The only time it's worth it is you're going to open your own place.
People would rather have one place to go to, than having to find a programmer here and a design guy here. And that's what I do. I have my own place, I do my own flash work as well. But on any big job web I bring in real code monkeys. :)

The beauty with this position I'm taking now is that I'm going to be working hand in hand with a really intense coder, friend from high school, and he's been dying for a decent designer since they have a "technical illustrator" working for them now.

Everyone is a designer eh, so ridiculous

 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Sabot
I've found that since I've been fortunate enough to have both print and interactive/web heavy positions in the past, my skillset is pretty varied and it's something people are really starting to look form.

My program is highly specialized and about 90% of the students do print work, because although the technical execution is a pain in the ass, the learning curve is way less inclined (read: while in school) and no one wants to do interactivity because as soon as you start coding as a designer you compete with full time coders.

Tough industry
What you say is very true.
The only time it's worth it is you're going to open your own place.
People would rather have one place to go to, than having to find a programmer here and a design guy here. And that's what I do. I have my own place, I do my own flash work as well. But on any big job web I bring in real code monkeys. :)

EDIT: But right now about 60-65% of my work is designing websites for a webdesign company. They send me all their design work, and I love that stuff. It's a breeze to do and I make good money off it.

For sure, you can make a ton of very fast cash doing web based work, where as print takes forever :S