So i got the danger den 4404 "complete liquid cooling kit" today

[faxon]

it was on clearance at frys for $70 (campbell still has 13 if anyone cares), so i bought the last 2 for me and a friend. comes with a D5 pump, black ice xtreme II rad, and a universal MC-TDX CPU block. now, the barbs it comes with are all pretty ancient, so im gonna swap those out for fatboys (got a bag of 20), and i prefer 7/16 tubing vs the 1/2 they included since it holds tighter without using clamps. the pump rocks, and the radiator should be enough for just a CPU for now. my only concern is the block. anyone have any input on this particular block? looks like an older design, but considering that i was originally going to spend $300 after tax and shipping for a similar kit ( variable speed D5, MCR-360, Apogee XT), i think it's well worth $70 to get my foot in the door. im not to hot with locating WC hardware benchmarks yet so if someone could point me in the right direction for a review which includes this block compared to some of the other more modern blocks, that would rock

 

[WoodButcher]

That block will be fine for temps for a while but any block with an acrylic top gives me cause for concern. They crack over time and develop leaks. In regard to temps, in my experience with different blocks and cpus there is really no dramatic difference unless you compare a block from the old TT or aquagate systems to something like an apogee. The rad size and pumps have more to contribute to good cooling than anything else. At the price you paid I would buy a second setup for a dual loop system, overloading a systems cooling capacity is the biggest cause of disappointment I've seen over the years. Folks put their cpu, NB mofsets and gpu on a dual rad and expect a big OC,,,, it doesn't work.
Your post suggests you've done some homework and are heading in the right direction. Water won't give you a fantastic OC but with give you quiet and peace of mind when running higher voltages. Remember to cool the motherboard and you'll be fine. You'll find a great deal of info on skinee's site.
Merry Christmas!

 

[cbn]

it was on clearance at frys for $70 (campbell still has 13 if anyone cares), so i bought the last 2 for me and a friend. comes with a D5 pump, black ice xtreme II rad, and a universal MC-TDX CPU block. now, the barbs it comes with are all pretty ancient, so im gonna swap those out for fatboys (got a bag of 20), and i prefer 7/16 tubing vs the 1/2 they included since it holds tighter without using clamps. the pump rocks, and the radiator should be enough for just a CPU for now. my only concern is the block. anyone have any input on this particular block? looks like an older design, but considering that i was originally going to spend $300 after tax and shipping for a similar kit ( variable speed D5, MCR-360, Apogee XT), i think it's well worth $70 to get my foot in the door. im not to hot with locating WC hardware benchmarks yet so if someone could point me in the right direction for a review which includes this block compared to some of the other more modern blocks, that would rock

Does anyone know how this kit would compare to the Asetek ones at SVC?

http://www.svc.com/water-cooling-kit.html

 

[Zap]

Does anyone know how this kit would compare to the Asetek ones at SVC?

It would be like the $135 kit, minus the chipset/GPU coolers (you probably won't use the GPU cooler) so I think this is a better deal.

 

[faxon]

That block will be fine for temps for a while but any block with an acrylic top gives me cause for concern. They crack over time and develop leaks. In regard to temps, in my experience with different blocks and cpus there is really no dramatic difference unless you compare a block from the old TT or aquagate systems to something like an apogee. The rad size and pumps have more to contribute to good cooling than anything else. At the price you paid I would buy a second setup for a dual loop system, overloading a systems cooling capacity is the biggest cause of disappointment I've seen over the years. Folks put their cpu, NB mofsets and gpu on a dual rad and expect a big OC,,,, it doesn't work.
Your post suggests you've done some homework and are heading in the right direction. Water won't give you a fantastic OC but with give you quiet and peace of mind when running higher voltages. Remember to cool the motherboard and you'll be fine. You'll find a great deal of info on skinee's site.
Merry Christmas!

yea i have been planning this since back in august actually. i already ordered a bunch of stuff a couple months ago but with work i have been refocusing my attention elsewhere in my system since i havent had time to do the loop yet. the first thing i need to see is how quiet this pump is. i was going to get the adjustable speed D5 but it's hard to argue with $70 for a kit. if i dont like it i can always sell it and get the one i wanted, all the pieces are pretty well packaged within the box. the biggest trick is going to be figuring out where to put the different radiators i was planning on having, but the HAF932 has tons of places to mount stuff so i should be all good once im done.
Merry Christmas to you as well :awe:

 

[WoodButcher]

The D5 is quiet if you mount it right. Use double stick tape or velcro and don't screw it down.

 

[Schmide]

My TDX (brass top) keeps my q9550 @ 3.8 well under 50c load with a DD Black Ice Extreme II.

 

[cbn]

What do you guys think of dual loops? (separate radiator for the video card)

Would this type of set-up work with a single reservoir and pump?

 

[faxon]

What do you guys think of dual loops? (separate radiator for the video card)

Would this type of set-up work with a single reservoir and pump?

It is an excellent idea if you have a typhoon III head for your D5. Skinnee has a review on it actually. http://www.skinneelabs.com/Pumps/D5/TyphoonIII/Primochill-TIII.html

 

[faxon]

Okay so i have decided to still get the apogee XT block after reading some benchmarks. the only thing preventing me from OCing higher right now is temps (comp thermal panics and shuts down if i run linpack, passes OCCT all night @ 72c), and i wanna take a machette to the problem. from the looks of it though, it doesnt come with S775 mounting hardware out of the box, but swiftech will mail it to anyone who asks free of charge, which is awesome. now the question, does A) anyone know of a place that sells it with the S775 bracket included, or B) does anyone know how long it takes swiftech to process a request for one. also, is the bracket just a backplate, or does one need to swap the top plate as well. if you need to swap just the backplate, i got plenty of those now, and i dont mind ordering more if need be either.

 

[GAM3RIG]

Yes, two days ago, I got two boxes of

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I agree with OP's quote: "all are pretty ancient". However I inspected it and it says MFR 5/2009.

 

[Shmee]

he got one for me too lol. So, question: Will the CPU block work with socket 1366?

 

[faxon]

if it doesnt we can order up 2 apogee XT blocks when they come back in stock and i have time to tinker lol. you should look into how were gonna fit the radiator into your 690 before worrying to much about the CPU block. i would look myself but my 690 has 2 fans in the top 2 slots where as i think we didnt mount them there. if the mounts dont line up then you may need to get an external radbox unless we can rig something up inside the case. call me sunday and see if im free

 

[GAM3RIG]

it was my first water cooling loop set up, JUST PLUG & PLAY without leak test for 7 days. My rig hadnt any leaking so far. Mm

CPU Waterblock: Danger Den TDX
Pump: D-5 Pump
Radiator: 240mm Black Ice XtremeII Radiator
Case Fans: Two 200mm CoolerMaster & 120x38mm LinkDepot Fans
Barbs/fittings: all 1/2
Radiator Fans: Four 120mm Yate Loon Fans
Reservoirs: T-line/Fillport
Tubing: FDA Type 10-Foot Clear Tubing -1/2" ID - 1/8 inch wall -
Tubing Clamps: all Stainless Steel Hose Clamp
Liquid: Target Distilled Water mix with O'reilly Coolant

I love Danger Den WC!

 

[Zap]

Uh, looks like you need a bit more liquid in them tubes. Did your kit come with liquid or with a concentrate/wetter?

 

[Hey Zeus]

it was my first water cooling loop set up, JUST PLUG & PLAY without leak test for 7 days. My rig hadnt any leaking so far. Mm

CPU Waterblock: Danger Den TDX
Pump: D-5 Pump
Radiator: 240mm Black Ice XtremeII Radiator
Case Fans: Two 200mm CoolerMaster & 120x38mm LinkDepot Fans
Barbs/fittings: all 1/2
Radiator Fans: Four 120mm Yate Loon Fans
Reservoirs: T-line/Fillport
Tubing: FDA Type 10-Foot Clear Tubing -1/2" ID - 1/8 inch wall -
Tubing Clamps: all Stainless Steel Hose Clamp
Liquid: Target Distilled Water mix with O'reilly Coolant

I love Danger Den WC!

LOL... You need to bleed those tubes some more before you fry your CPU. Where the hell is your Res? Don't have one? BUY ONE

Water Noobies

 

[faxon]

yea i was gonna say, is that a huge ass air pocket between the radiator and the pump, cause DAMN, that either looks totally jank and im missing something, or there's a huge air bubble in there which shouldnt be.

 

[GAM3RIG]

WHOAAA! KIDS, you jump to judging others included me. because you think you knew what you doing than others,, *YAWN*(rolleyes).. you sucks!

Don't tell me like that what you think I am dumb.. I already knew it. I MODIFIED it and took a picture before add coolant, JUST re-PLUG & PLAY without leak test.

my revised version currently looks alot better as above then this first one:

Yawn.... look at time, oops i better go to bed for work..

 

[WoodButcher]

#1 ya didn't need to flip the rad but you do want a res or T line.

No leaks?,,, I'd call that a good first effort, you'll likely re-loop a dozen times before your satisfied and then you'll want to upgrade, enjoy!

 

[GAM3RIG]

I don't know anyone who does or has thought of doing such a thing. It's very negligent I think. I love my revised version rig that way how it looks.. Your predict is doomed! res? I aint here to take your advice. I aint weak link. I'm told T-lines give better performance than reservoirs, IMO.

 

[Hey Zeus]

I never understood why people buy small cases and mount WC loops outside of it. I think it looks good tho but i would invest in a RES.

 

[WoodButcher]

I don't know anyone who does or has thought of doing such a thing. It's very negligent I think. I love my revised version rig that way how it looks.. Your predict is doomed! res? I aint here to take your advice. I aint weak link. I'm told T-lines give better performance than reservoirs, IMO.

O'really?

http://aloader.com/files/65/oneone/P5E-VM HDMI 01.JPG

That's one of many I've done but if you spend some time and look around many water puppies do this.
Personally I use a res and t-line, the XSPC res-top combo on a 355 is one of the best setups you can get for head pressure and flow rate. (that dual res is one of my own abortions) Have a look over at skinnee labs for the testing, I think he still refers to Martin's testing done back when they first came out. I also use a t-line generally located as far from the res as possible in the loop as this will aid in fill/ flush, and bleeding the loop.

I wouldn't presume your here to take advice and certainly wouldn't refer to someone I've never met as a "weak link". When I build anything I'm always learning, sometimes from mistakes but more often from watching, listening and asking questions. I don't judge others if they do something different than I but I will watch what they do and again, learn from their methods. 30+ years in the trades and I still find it ever so much easier to learn from others mistakes rather than my own.:sneaky:

10 bux say's you re-loop or upgrade inside of 6 months!

 

[Zap]

you do want a res or T line.

It has a T line. It splits off from that black "T" right above the pump, and goes behind the drive bays.

 

[WoodButcher]

It has a T line. It splits off from that black "T" right above the pump, and goes behind the drive bays.

I see it now, I saw the black connector but I didn't see the tubing at first, time to get specs for me I guess....:$

 

[aigomorla]

it was on clearance at frys for $70 (campbell still has 13 if anyone cares),

incase anyone cares, the pump itself is worth more retail.



http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP655-12-VDC-Pump-pr-2982.html

Guys who got this kit, The BEST POSSIBLE UPGRADE YOU CAN DO! *budget sense*

CHUG the TDX, sorry to say its very outdated.

Grab a Swiftech GTZ. (I recommend this because it has a beginner friendly mounting system)
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-Apogee-GTZ-Extreme-Performance-CPU-Waterblock-Core-i7-pr-4467.html

Make sure you get the version correct, lga775 or i7.

Then smile, you will see NOTICIBLE benifit.

Or grab a XT if you want to splurg a little, as its the best ranked block right now.

From my friends @ skinnee lab's

The TDX is lower then the lowest ranked block on this list BTW.