So.. I can't get into The Wire...

Zeze

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Game of Thrones & Breaking Bad had their unbelievable 'suck you in' charm.

The internet loves sucking The Wire's weewee, so I gave it go. I just finished season 1 and couldn't get into it that much. Don't get me wrong, the show is brilliant with excellent writing, but it feels like too much build-up, not enough pay-off. Is S1 supposed to be not as good?

Remember Game of Thrones season 1? Each episode just HOOKED YOU IN, made you gasp at every epic events, and couldn't wait to watch the next. Same goes for BB.

It's not like I gave up on The Wire. I just stopped watching it few months ago and never really went back. I guess the pull wasn't strong enough?
 

Chiropteran

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I started watching The Wire, and paused around the last part of season 3, but intended to finish watching the show when I have more time.

For me, it's a different type of show. It feels much more real than Breaking Bad. I mean, I love Breaking Bad, it's an amazing show, but I am at the point where I expect something completely ridiculous and/or disgustingly wrong to occur in every episode. Watching The Wire, I don't get that... instead I feel like I am watching a real police force fight real crime, and when crazy shit happens it feels like it's realistic and plausible and not just thrown in for shock value.

It *doesn't* grab me the same way Breaking Bad did, but I still enjoy watching it.
 

TallBill

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Season 1 started off slow, but I was pretty hooked by the end of 1. 2-3 were probably my favorites.
 
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Season 1 is very methodical, slow pace, lots of build up and not a huge amount of payoff. Season 2 is an outlier; without giving away much in the way of plot details, it follows all the same players from Season 1, but everyone is in a very different role following the breakup of the unit. Seasons 3 through 5 go back to focusing on the unit, the corner boys, the kingpins; the introduction and development of Marlo Stanfield and a stronger focus on Omar take the series to its zenith. If you didn't like Season 1, you may still like the show, but Season 2 is fairly different to the rest of the show. Seasons 3 and 4 are outstanding. Season 5 tries to jump the shark a little bit, but still manages to stay compelling. It's hard to recommend skipping Season 2 though, so maybe give that a try and if you don't like it, the show may just not be for you.
 

TwiceOver

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I watched the whole thing because everyone said it was so awesome, best show ever, better than jesus. I kept waiting for it to get good. And I waited. And I watched ever so vigilantly. I sat through the "authentically" horrible acting. I got through the parts everyone agreed were slow. I kept watching. And then it ended and I thought, "that is what everyone is so fucking proud of?" It is a 6/10 at its very best.
 

BrokenVisage

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You're not alone OP, The Wire could not hold my attention and I would even get annoyed by all the people who put it on a pedestal. I've since come to accept that there are some shows that may be good but just aren't for me and I've learned to deal with the curious love it receives.
 

NoCreativity

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Wife and I tried it. Got through two episodes before we gave up. Like OP said there just didn't seem to be any pull.
 

GobBluth

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Game of Thrones & Breaking Bad had their unbelievable 'suck you in' charm.

The internet loves sucking The Wire's weewee, so I gave it go. I just finished season 1 and couldn't get into it that much. Don't get me wrong, the show is brilliant with excellent writing, but it feels like too much build-up, not enough pay-off. Is S1 supposed to be not as good?

Remember Game of Thrones season 1? Each episode just HOOKED YOU IN, made you gasp at every epic events, and couldn't wait to watch the next. Same goes for BB.

It's not like I gave up on The Wire. I just stopped watching it few months ago and never really went back. I guess the pull wasn't strong enough?

You aren't the only one. Allow me to recommend "The Shield" if you want a cop drama. It has the "suck you in" factor you speak of. Great plot with tons of twists.
 

Rockinacoustic

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The thing that drew me into the wire was the constant desire for closure in each episode. You seldom get it, but when you do, man it hits you hard.
 

Mandres

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I think if you aren't into by the end of Season 1 then you probably won't enjoy the rest.

Most people I've turned onto the series get hooked by episode 3-4. It's not like Breaking Bad, and it's definitely not like Game of Thrones. Those are comic-book shows. The Wire is a novel.
 

pelov

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For me, it's a different type of show. It feels much more real than Breaking Bad. I mean, I love Breaking Bad, it's an amazing show, but I am at the point where I expect something completely ridiculous and/or disgustingly wrong to occur in every episode.

It has warped into some sort of weird action flick type of show. Frankly, I hate what they've been doing. The characters seem to be all over the place and change every week. I know I'm going to get smeared so inb4 rabid fanboys

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The Wire was a better show. The Sopranos was a better show. Game of Thrones is a better show. Right now, in particular the past 2 seasons, I'd rank Breaking Bad somewhere just above Lost. I am disappoint
 

dr150

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It has warped into some sort of weird action flick type of show. Frankly, I hate what they've been doing. The characters seem to be all over the place and change every week. I know I'm going to get smeared so inb4 rabid fanboys

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The Wire was a better show. The Sopranos was a better show. Game of Thrones is a better show. Right now, in particular the past 2 seasons, I'd rank Breaking Bad somewhere just above Lost. I am disappoint

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I own the Wire on DVD but can't get into it either. I need to force myself to sit down and watch it but what I have seen thus far really hasn't pulled me in.

Setting aside the Wire (which I am not competent to judge since I haven't seen all of it), I would rank it and its major competition as follows: Breaking Bad>>Mad Men>>>>>>>>The Sopranos>>>>Dexter.

Personally I think that while the Sopranos really introduced this medium (i.e., serious, serialized dramas that took advantage of the freedoms of cable TV), it isn't really up to the quality standards of the shows that succeeded it - there are a LOT of clunker episodes of the Sopranos, and the whole last two-part season is just OK.
 

wirednuts

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i didnt really like breaking bad until the 3rd season. everyone was telling me how amazing it was and to me it was part weeds and part weeds. but its more fun to watch then weeds and at moments it feels kinda real so its a good show.

the wire you have to hang onto every word. you have to treat it like a book is being read to you. you must pay attention and get all the visual clues that are there too. if you let yourself get sucked into it, the show becomes the most realistic drama on tv. just raw as hell.
 

zinfamous

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I think seasons 3 and 4 of The Wire are the best thing to come out of Television (excepting Band of Brothers). Then maybe Deadwood, then Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Dexter, etc...

I kind of agree with Pelov, that BB is tending towards "what new ridiculous thing can we do?" ....I don't think it's that bad, though...but I have concerns. that being said, I enjoy how there is absolutely no glamor in what we get with BB--there is never a winner, Walter can never, ever come out on top. It's pretty brilliant (though I find myself becoming more or less unsympathetic towards any of the characters)
 

jlee

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one episode of the wire > all of breaking bad

Yeah, kinda funny I have the opposite attitude of the OP. I loved The Wire (though I haven't finished it yet - I think I'm in Season 2 somewhere) but couldn't get into Breaking Bad at all.
 
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I have posted this article before, but I think it bears posting again - http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6763000/bad-decisions

Though some may disagree (and I'm sure some will, because some always do), there doesn't seem to be much debate over what have been the four best television shows of the past 10 years. It seems like an easy question to answer, particularly since it's become increasingly difficult to write about the state of TV (or even the state of popular culture) without tangentially mentioning one of the following four programs — The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men, and/or Breaking Bad. The four fit together so nicely: Two from HBO that are defunct, two from AMC that are on-going, and all of which use nonlinear narratives with only minor experimentation. There have been bushels of quality television during the past decade, but these four shows have been the best (and by a relatively wide margin). Taste is subjective, but the critical consensus surrounding these four dramas is so widespread that it feels like an objective truth; it's become so accepted that this entire paragraph is a remarkably mundane argument to make in public. I'm basically writing, "The greatness of these great shows is defined by their greatness." There's no conflict in stating that good things are good.

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There's never been a more obstinate fan base than that of The Wire; it's a secular cult that refuses to accept any argument that doesn't classify The Wire as the greatest artistic endeavor in television history. It's almost as if these people secretly believe this show actually happened, and that criticizing the storyline is like mocking an episode of Frontline. This was not a documentary about Baltimore: Wallace is not alive and playing high school football in Texas, Stringer Bell was not reincarnated as a Pennsylvania paper salesman, and you are not qualified to lecture on inner-city education because you own Season 4 on DVD. The citizens on that show were nonexistent composites, and the events you watched did not occur. As a society, we must learn to accept this.

Which is not to say The Wire wasn't brilliant, because it was. Of the four shows I've mentioned, The Wire absolutely exhibited the finest writing; Mad Men has the most fascinating collection of character types, and The Sopranos was the most fully realized (and, it's important to note, essentially invented this rarified tier of televised drama). But I've slowly come to the conclusion that Breaking Bad is the best of the four, or at least the one I like the most. And I've been trying to figure out why I feel this way. It's shot in the most visually creative style, but that's not enough to set it apart; the acting is probably the best of the four, but not by a lot (and since good acting can sometimes cover deeper problems with direction and storytelling, I tend not to give it much weight). I suspect Breaking Bad will be the least remembered of these four shows and will probably be the least influential over time. Yet there's one profound difference between this series and the other three, and it has to do with its handling of morality: Breaking Bad is the only one built on the uncomfortable premise that there's an irrefutable difference between what's right and what's wrong, and it's the only one where the characters have real control over how they choose to live.

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Mandres

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The biggest problem with the Wire imo is that it's hard to keep track of who's who for the first half of season 1, and people get confused and turned off.
 

blankslate

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Most people I've turned onto the series get hooked by episode 3-4. It's not like Breaking Bad, and it's definitely not like Game of Thrones. Those are comic-book shows. The Wire is a novel.

Kinda ironic since Game of Thrones is based on novels. And the main writer for "The Wire" cut his teeth on network television with "Homicide" which was itself based on a book.

I like both series and am willing to chalk up differences in opinion about the shows to the fact that people are just different and find different types of stories appealing.