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So I bought a flat screen tv - and I'm peeved. ..

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: mb
Holy shit, how stupid can you be?

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
OP is a dumbass.

And you two are judgmental little pricks.

People are always ignorant of that which they care little about. Obviously HDTV and TV in general has never interested the OP and he is now learning.

I bet if we dug a bit, we could find something you're woefully ignorant of too.

So what? We're all ignorant of many things.

If if that doesn't work, how about this: Get some fucking manners.

Piss off.

Sure, we all are ignorant in certain areas, but I wouldn't go around ranting about it if I didn't know anything about it in the first place.

Hell I barely know anything about cars and if I tried to change something or buy a part and it didn't do what I thought it would do, I wouldn't come crying about it here.

:roll:
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Sheesh this thing is going back then. I've blissfully ignored televisions for a long time, and I figured a 19 inch flat screeen would have the same viewable pic as my 25 inch tube tv on dvd's as it was letterboxed. I thought that the whole screen was used on flat screen tv and it would be better than this. This is like having a 13 inch tv set. . .

Glad I kept the receipt. . . .

wtf are you smoking. is this a joke post? the strength of flat screens is their size potential. even at walmart they sell a load of 37-50+ inch tvs. and you bought a 19? they all have a wall display of big ol tvs showing you exactly how big each is. egads.

and math? yeesh!!

heres some help next time.

http://www.tvcalculator.com/
according to this site you need a 23" wide screen to equal a 25" 4:3 when displaying a 16:9 image.

seriously why would you think a 19" wide screen is anything close to a 25" of any kind. you are talking half the raw image area to begin with. this isn't about whether you "watch tv", watching tv has no bearing on knowing difference in size, its basic freakin math. triangles/area is not hard. you don't even need basic math. just hold your fingers apart in a 19" diagonal in a rectangle and you get a general idea of how small it is from that alone. its not a blind purchase. it says right on the box... 19"!! about as clear as a spec as you can get. never mind you are faced with a wall of display units. and at walmart they even sell rulers and tape measures😛

and depending on the content.. the whole screen IS used.

Originally posted by: Epic Fail
OP should lose posting privilege on a tech forum.

++
 
and aspect ratio is NOT stupid. it is better to have 16:9 tv's with bars on top and bottom on some films than to pick an in between aspect ratio and end up having bars on the side for 16:9 material.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and aspect ratio is NOT stupid. it is better to have 16:9 tv's with bars on top and bottom on some films than to pick an in between aspect ratio and end up having bars on the side for 16:9 material.

Yep, 16:9 was the best compromise.

Though it would be cool if they made some high end 2.35:1 TVs for HT use. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and aspect ratio is NOT stupid. it is better to have 16:9 tv's with bars on top and bottom on some films than to pick an in between aspect ratio and end up having bars on the side for 16:9 material.

Yep, 16:9 was the best compromise.

Though it would be cool if they made some high end 2.35:1 TVs for HT use. 🙂

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1083120
 
You should be able to change the screen mode using the remote. Mine goes to Zoom, Full, Letterbox, and Stretch. Stretch makes the picture fill the entire screen.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and aspect ratio is NOT stupid. it is better to have 16:9 tv's with bars on top and bottom on some films than to pick an in between aspect ratio and end up having bars on the side for 16:9 material.

Yep, 16:9 was the best compromise.

Though it would be cool if they made some high end 2.35:1 TVs for HT use. 🙂

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1083120

Oh I know, but projecters are limited to rooms with total light control. 🙁

My brother has a projector based HT and has a good masking system. I just don't have a light controlled room for it. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.

bah Fsck off and die!

:beer:
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.

bah Fsck off and die!

:beer:

That's the plan my friend! :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: waggy
this is why i got a 65 inch TV. what black bars i do have i don't even notice!

Yep! I love my 67" LED DLP Samsung. My viewing distance is 12-13 feet and it's great for 2.35:1 movies.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.

bah Fsck off and die!

:beer:

That's the plan my friend! :thumbsup:


You're looking at it the wrong way; it's an honor to get berated by ATOT - your post stays alive instead of fading off into oblivion.
 
i guess thats what he got.

Sansui 19" LCD HDTV w/ 1 Component, 1 PC, 1 S-Video, and 1 A/V inputs - $178
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/black-friday/879493

Samsung 50" 720P Plasma TV w/ 2 HDMI, 2 Component, 1 PC, and 1 A/V inputs - $798
Polaroid 42" 1080P LCD TV w/ 2 HDMI, 2 Componene, 1 PC, 1 (S-Video?), 1 A/V inputs - $598
Emerson 32" 720P LCD TV w/ 2 HDMI, 2 Componene, 1 PC, 1 (S-Video?), 1 A/V inputs - $388

square inch per dollar

19"=.866
32"=1.12
42"=1.25
50"=1.33

19" screen is made for a kitchen or bathroom or where ever you have limited space to wedge in a screen.
 
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.

bah Fsck off and die!

:beer:

That's the plan my friend! :thumbsup:


You're looking at it the wrong way; it's an honor to get berated by ATOT - your post stays alive instead of fading off into oblivion.

Sad way to get a good thread. I try to get people to have thoughtful conversations and debates. Many of my threads are 100 posts or longer with few if any one liners or nefs.

Yes, I rock. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: CKent


Proper response: Admit mistake
OP: Ignorantly lash out.

Well, one tends to get a tad bit defensive when people are calling one a "dumbass," "stupid," "moron," etc.

And without even trying to explain things to him...

c'mon amused, you know the drill

- do something stupid
- post about it on ATOT
- get berated by ATOT


It's par for the course.

Bah, no reason people shouldn't ask for a little civility.

bah Fsck off and die!

:beer:

That's the plan my friend! :thumbsup:


You're looking at it the wrong way; it's an honor to get berated by ATOT - your post stays alive instead of fading off into oblivion.

Sad way to get a good thread. I try to get people to have thoughtful conversations and debates. Many of my threads are 100 posts or longer with few if any one liners or nefs.

Yes, I rock. 😛

I must've been off my game; I'll keep on a lookout for your threads 😉
 
Originally posted by: Ns1


I must've been off my game; I'll keep on a lookout for your threads 😉

LOL! I seldom post a new thread but have more in the last week because I'm bed bound with meningitis.
 
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: BlackTigers
Originally posted by: Amused
Black bars exist on all sets for the same reason the round peg wouldn't fit in the square hole back on kindergarten.

Actually I think the round peg did go into the square hole.

It's the square peg that wouldn't fit in the round hole. Speaking of people who failed kindergarten... 🙂

Sure it did. You just had to work at it a bit. 😛

Dave
 
A 19" Widescreen is about like a 21" 4:3 TV when you are looking at 16:9 or 2.35:1 content. I don't know why the OP thought it would be like a 25". You would need at 23" widescreen to be about equivalent to a 25" 4:3.
 
Let's start off by saying that I'm 40 years old. No "young whippersnapper smart ass syndrome here."

That said...

Why the hell do people spend $99.95 and expect some full HD movie like 100-foot picture scratch and sniff surround sound with happy ending? 😕

HEEEELLLLOOOOOO..... "Nice" isn't cheap and "Holy fucking shit!" will COST YOU, brother.

You__bought__a damn 19" (nineteen WhOLe goddamn inchesssss...OMFG!!!!_) TV and expect a reach thru the screen and jerk me off happy ending? What the hell is wrong with some people?

It's 2008. If some folks STILL don't understand aspect ratio and the diff b/t normal broadcast TV and what you see in the theaters, then they need to stick with a 4:3 TV and be happy.

Please don't jump into 2004 (not a typo) until you're really ready to be there.

ps
This is a Tech Forum and Tech Ignorant people (like my Mom) who can't set the clock on a VCR wouldn't/shouldn't be posting here. I'm all for teaching and educating but the OP...is still wondering if VHS is really better than Super 8 film.
 
Originally posted by: torpid
A 19" Widescreen is about like a 21" 4:3 TV when you are looking at 16:9 or 2.35:1 content. I don't know why the OP thought it would be like a 25". You would need at 23" widescreen to be about equivalent to a 25" 4:3.

Actually, you have it backwards. A 19" widescreen will seem smaller than a 19" 4:3. Especially for 4:3 and 2.35:1 content.

If he wants the equivalent to a 27" TV, he needs a 36" widecreen. When going from 4:3 to widescreen, always go a step or two up in size.
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Let's start off by saying that I'm 40 years old. No "young whippersnapper smart ass syndrome here."

That said...

Why the hell do people spend $99.95 and expect some full HD movie like 100-foot picture scratch and sniff surround sound with happy ending? 😕

HEEEELLLLOOOOOO..... "Nice" isn't cheap and "Holy fucking shit!" will COST YOU, brother.

You__bought__a damn 19" (nineteen WhOLe goddamn inchesssss...OMFG!!!!_) TV and expect a reach thru the screen and jerk me off happy ending? What the hell is wrong with some people?

It's 2008. If some folks STILL don't understand aspect ratio and the diff b/t normal broadcast TV and what you see in the theaters, then they need to stick with a 4:3 TV and be happy.

Please don't jump into 2004 (not a typo) until you're really ready to be there.

ps
This is a Tech Forum and Tech Ignorant people (like my Mom) who can't set the clock on a VCR wouldn't/shouldn't be posting here. I'm all for teaching and educating but the OP...is still wondering if VHS is really better than Super 8 film.

Bitchy today?

Let's be fair: HDTV and HT subjects are ones a geek can easily ignore if their focus is elsewhere. We even separated the forums so he couldn't get accidentally sucked into the topic. He never cared about HDTV and was happy with his old TVs. So what? After all the money I've spent on HT stuff, I kinda envy him. LOL

Seems the more I know, the more I spend! 😱
 
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