So how has the Patriot Act ruined your life?

GoPackGo

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I am looking for specific examples where the Patriot Act hindered someones life or actually trampled on your rights....no Tinfoil hats or theories please.
 

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Lung cancer never ruined my life, but I still have no need or desire for it, so what is your point?
 

Riprorin

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Well, just the other day...

And then there was that time when...

Umm, no, it hasn't affected my life.

 

SuperTool

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They made me take my belt off at the airport, because of the buckle, and when they gave it back to me, it was broken. :(
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
They made me take my belt off at the airport, because of the buckle, and when they gave it back to me, it was broken. :(

How do you break a belt?
 

zantac

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How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

But the argument is that the Patriot Act should be ended because it damages civil rights....

The belt buckle affair is more TSA/Homeland Security...not Patriot Act.

So has anyone here had the the Patriot Act cited as a reason their civil rights were trodded upon?
 

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Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.
Couldn't have said it better myself :)

When the government throws the Patriot Act on your ass (whether you're innocent or guilty), most likely, you'd be incapable of doing things such as posting on AT.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: tallest1
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.
Couldn't have said it better myself :)

When the government throws the Patriot Act on your ass (whether you're innocent or guilty), most likely, you'd be incapable of doing things such as posting on AT.


The government doesn't need the Patriot Act if they wanted to throw down on my ass...NSA comes in...takes me away and bye bye.

But again your argument is in the Tinfoil Hat Arena.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

I would say that redistribution of wealth has affected me.

Why should the government confiscate my hard earned money and give it to someone else?
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

I would say that redistribution of wealth has affected me.

Why should the government confiscate my hard earned money and give it to someone else?

I didn't know the Patriot Act did that! Wow...can we get detailed information.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: SuperTool
They made me take my belt off at the airport, because of the buckle, and when they gave it back to me, it was broken. :(

How do you break a belt?

For some reason, the morons bent that metal stick, and it broke off.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: SuperTool
They made me take my belt off at the airport, because of the buckle, and when they gave it back to me, it was broken. :(

How do you break a belt?

For some reason, the morons bent that metal stick, and it broke off.

Did they run it through the machine? if so it might have gotten jammed.
 

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Because there are no specific effects today, it will always be so? Give it time. Plus, we don't hear much of what goes on. How do we know people have not been affected by it? Do you think we know a majority of what our government does?
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Because there are no specific effects today, it will always be so? Give it time. Plus, we don't hear much of what goes on. How do we know people have not been affected by it? Do you think we know a majority of what our government does?

Is there a tinfoil hat in the house?

So not one specific example yet?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Because there are no specific effects today, it will always be so? Give it time. Plus, we don't hear much of what goes on. How do we know people have not been affected by it? Do you think we know a majority of what our government does?

Is there a tinfoil hat in the house?

I can only find aluminum foil. This is NOT conspiracy theory. Secrets in the name of national security are numerous. If you refuse to believe that, you are a moron.

So not one specific example yet?

It will take time. Specific issues with the DMCA are popping up all over the place, and when did that originally get put into place?
 

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

But the argument is that the Patriot Act should be ended because it damages civil rights....

The belt buckle affair is more TSA/Homeland Security...not Patriot Act.

So has anyone here had the the Patriot Act cited as a reason their civil rights were trodded upon?

So if we decided to kill off all the Muslims in this country you would be okay with that? I mean it's not like it would affect you after all.
 

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

But the argument is that the Patriot Act should be ended because it damages civil rights....

The belt buckle affair is more TSA/Homeland Security...not Patriot Act.

So has anyone here had the the Patriot Act cited as a reason their civil rights were trodded upon?

So if we decided to kill off all the Muslims in this country you would be okay with that? I mean it's not like it would affect you after all.

"Der kostbarste Besitz auf dieser Welt aber ist das eigene Volk. Und für dieses Volk und um dieses Volk wollen wir ringen und wollen wir kämpfen."

Only he matters, what happens to others is not important as long as it may somehow benefits him in some way or another.
 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

:beer:

What makes america great is that our freedoms are gaurenteed by the constitution, anything that threatens that freedom, in which case the Patriot act does;
is a threat to the institution of America itself.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo

So how has the Patriot Act ruined your life?

am looking for specific examples where the Patriot Act hindered someones life or actually trampled on your rights....no Tinfoil hats or theories please.


not mine, but more than a few citizens have been held without access to a laywer or even formal charges.
 

Red Dawn

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Should we wait for it to effect our rights before we do something about it? Maybe by that time it will be to late to do something about it.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.

I would say that redistribution of wealth has affected me.

Why should the government confiscate my hard earned money and give it to someone else?

I didn't know the Patriot Act did that! Wow...can we get detailed information.

Huh? I'm answering the question how has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined your life?
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I am looking for specific examples where the Patriot Act hindered someones life or actually trampled on your rights....no Tinfoil hats or theories please.

Saddam Hussein has not affected my life at all. But my tax money still went to invading his country to remove him from power. So I'm just wondering- were you opposed to removing Saddam from power? Seems like you only care about things that specifically affect you, in your own self-interest.
 

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: SuperTool
They made me take my belt off at the airport, because of the buckle, and when they gave it back to me, it was broken. :(

How do you break a belt?

For some reason, the morons bent that metal stick, and it broke off.

i snapped the metal stick on one of my belts putting it on. damn shoddy chinese steel
 

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: tallest1
Originally posted by: zantac
How has abortion, taxes, immigration, welfare, etc ruined yours? Again explicit examples.
Couldn't have said it better myself :)

When the government throws the Patriot Act on your ass (whether you're innocent or guilty), most likely, you'd be incapable of doing things such as posting on AT.


The government doesn't need the Patriot Act if they wanted to throw down on my ass...NSA comes in...takes me away and bye bye.

But again your argument is in the Tinfoil Hat Arena.

Do you even know what the NSA does?