So how come nobody seems to interested in DLP technology?

eflat

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I'm going to buy a HDTV sometime this week and I must say the giant DLP ones are not only way cheaper but look the best. At least I think so. I had a projector at my old house though so maybe I'm just used to that look.

But they only stick out like a foot and you need that much room just for the receiver and stuff... so why aren't you guys all over these things?
 

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Originally posted by: Mutilator
Rainbow effect? I imagine the people that can see it, want nothing to do with it.

But that doesn't apply for the LED ones he's talking about?
 

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That's why I had the question mark. After I got my Z5 I stopped keeping track of the technologies. ;)
 

cubby1223

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I have an LED DLP. Looks great. Can't wait to see what comes of 3D Blu-ray players connected to my set. :D
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Mutilator
Rainbow effect? I imagine the people that can see it, want nothing to do with it.
Very few people can see the rainbow effect, but I've seen people talking about it for years now like it's the main strike against DLP.

Plus, it doesn't happen with LED sets.


DLP is still be best bang for buck, big TV there is. You simply can't get anything at a similar price that can hang with it.
 

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DLP isn't popular because it isn't "thin". I personally love DLP's, but I don't have the space for one.
 

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
I have an LED DLP. Looks great. Can't wait to see what comes of 3D Blu-ray players connected to my set. :D

Cool let me know. I'm thinking of getting the 50" Samsung LED one.

The only thing I am concerned about is focus. Can you do it manually or do you have to have a technician calibrate it if it gets out of focus?
 

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The HL-T5087SAX is a very, very good set. Check out the dedicated thread on AVSForum for more info. I, too, am also surprised at the lack of interest in DLPs.
 

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Originally posted by: erwos
The HL-T5087SAX is a very, very good set. Check out the dedicated thread on AVSForum for more info. I, too, am also surprised at the lack of interest in DLPs.

I'm pretty much sold on it. Do you know where the best place to buy it from is?
 

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Originally posted by: eflat
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I have an LED DLP. Looks great. Can't wait to see what comes of 3D Blu-ray players connected to my set. :D

Cool let me know. I'm thinking of getting the 50" Samsung LED one.

The only thing I am concerned about is focus. Can you do it manually or do you have to have a technician calibrate it if it gets out of focus?

I've never gone into the service menu, so I don't know what's there for options.

These dlp sets have a heavier silkscreen effect. It's like a texture in the screen. You lose a hair of clarity and in return get much improved viewing angles. It bugged me for a couple of weeks, but I got used to it, don't even really notice it anymore.

Samsung hides the speakers inside the tv for a cleaner look to the outside, but then they do sound muffled, like the audio is coming from a different room.

An htpc really must be connected through hdmi, don't even try the vga connection. There are controls to scale the image down so you don't have overscan when a computer is hooked up. You don't get 1-1 pixel mapping, but it's still a good picture, you can't notice it if you have a video playing fullscreen.

Those are the downsides to the these DLP sets. I'm not persuading you against it, just being informative so there are no surprises after you buy it. I just watched No Country for Old Men on Blu-ray tonight, I'm still in awe of the image quality and colors each time I watch a new movie.
 

eflat

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: eflat
Originally posted by: cubby1223
I have an LED DLP. Looks great. Can't wait to see what comes of 3D Blu-ray players connected to my set. :D

Cool let me know. I'm thinking of getting the 50" Samsung LED one.

The only thing I am concerned about is focus. Can you do it manually or do you have to have a technician calibrate it if it gets out of focus?

An htpc really must be connected through hdmi, don't even try the vga connection. There are controls to scale the image down so you don't have overscan when a computer is hooked up. You don't get 1-1 pixel mapping, but it's still a good picture, you can't notice it if you have a video playing fullscreen.

Why can't you get one to one pixel mapping?? I know you can with an LCD tv.

Man that might be a huge deal breaker. I really wanted to be able to use it as a giant computer screen in my "music studio" (garage).
 

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Originally posted by: eflat
Why can't you get one to one pixel mapping?? I know you can with an LCD tv.

Man that might be a huge deal breaker. I really wanted to be able to use it as a giant computer screen in my "music studio" (garage).

You could, but then you deal with overscan. Bottom line is, there's a reason why this set is cheaper than other hdtvs. There are advantages and disadvantages to each of the 4 main hdtv technologies. If your primary purpose is to use it with a computer, buy an LCD screen.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Chris
DLP viewing angles are the main strike against them.
Not really anymore. I never had a problem with them. Mine is 4 years old, and you can see it perfectly fine from 45 degrees or more. How much more of an angle do you need?
 

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Chris
DLP viewing angles are the main strike against them.
Not really anymore. I never had a problem with them. Mine is 4 years old, and you can see it perfectly fine from 45 degrees or more. How much more of an angle do you need?

When I had the HL-S5679W set the vertical viewing angle was so poor, maybe 30 degrees total, so like 15 degrees from level. Seriously, when eye level was at the bottom of the screen, 10 feet away, the top of the screen was very noticeably darker.

Luckily that set broke down on me, and I got a replacement HL-T5687S under warranty, horizontally I'd say 120 degrees, vertically 90 degrees. The trade-off is there's a heavy silkscreen effect that the HL-S model did not have.
 

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: eflat
Why can't you get one to one pixel mapping?? I know you can with an LCD tv.

Man that might be a huge deal breaker. I really wanted to be able to use it as a giant computer screen in my "music studio" (garage).

You could, but then you deal with overscan. Bottom line is, there's a reason why this set is cheaper than other hdtvs. There are advantages and disadvantages to each of the 4 main hdtv technologies. If your primary purpose is to use it with a computer, buy an LCD screen.

So why don't stand alone projectors have this issue? I though these DPL tv's were essentially the same kind of projector.

I know stand alone projectors work fine since our school uses them all the time with computers..
 

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Originally posted by: eflat
So why don't stand alone projectors have this issue? I though these DPL tv's were essentially the same kind of projector.

I know stand alone projectors work fine since our school uses them all the time with computers..
It's just how they manufacture them. A dlp set could be built with 1-1 pixel mapping, and no overscan, but they don't. They sell more sets if imperfections in the geometry are not easily visible.
 

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I was minutes away from purchasing the Samsung LED DLP, then I moved a little bit to the right in the store and saw the horrible viewing angle. The set was beautiful when viewing from the front but the way my home is set up most people would have problems when watching it. So instead of the DLP I went with the Samsung Plasma 120hrz version. Love it and well worth the extra $$.
 

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Originally posted by: IamDavid
I was minutes away from purchasing the Samsung LED DLP, then I moved a little bit to the right in the store and saw the horrible viewing angle. The set was beautiful when viewing from the front but the way my home is set up most people would have problems when watching it. So instead of the DLP I went with the Samsung Plasma 120hrz version. Love it and well worth the extra $$.
LCD? Plasmas don't need the 120Hz tech.
 

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<---- Samsung HL-S5087W owner. Love it. $1495 from Amazon November '06.
 

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Btw, I know for a fact you can do 1:1 pixel mapping over HDMI in the 6189 and I suspect its the same with other models, it is just convoluted how you do it. You have to actually name the input PC, just calling it HDMI or anything else won't work. Once it is named PC, you goto another setting (which I forget the name of) and enable 1:1 mapping.

I had 1:1 working over VGA, but it took me a good 20-30 minutes to get it working on HDMI, its really silly how they did it.
 

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I'd say people's fascination with having a thin TV they can hang on the wall eventhough 99% of them put it on a stand hehe.

I am in the mood to buy a new TV this summer. I was thikning about getting a 42 inch LCD or Plasma for the bedroom. But I am now leaning towards a 65 or 73" DLP. I saw a 65 and 73 inch Mistubishi last weekend at BB and fell in love with the size and quality of the picture. Ill move my 52 Inch DLP upstairs into the living room.

That 73" DLP is 3099 and the 65 1999 bucks at BB without any promotions. Sony has a 70 inch LCD for 33,000 lol :shocked:

Edit: btw I havent noticed these viewing angles issues on my Toshiba DLP. With the way our couches are setup downstairs I regularily view at 30 degrees and the picture looks as good as it does straight on.