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So how are you liking Win10 so far?

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It's funny how individuals from the same species, doing the same things, with the same devices, on the same planet, and on this forum mostly even with a common background and interest can have so wildly varying opinions. There are people that are angry about this (free, in the Google sense of the word) operating system, like really actually angry, then there are those that have a problem and either fix them or give a big "bummer, maybe they'll fix it eventually", and then no small portion that are doing just fine with it. We're a weird animal sometimes.
 
Ramses said:
It's funny how individuals from the same species, doing the same things, with the same devices, on the same planet, and on this forum mostly even with a common background and interest can have so wildly varying opinions. There are people that are angry about this (free, in the Google sense of the word) operating system, like really actually angry, then there are those that have a problem and either fix them or give a big "bummer, maybe they'll fix it eventually", and then no small portion that are doing just fine with it. We're a weird animal sometimes.
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I think a lot of people it's a dichotomy. Trying to balance the strong desire for something free with the panic associated with "change" puts them into overload mode.
 
I dont want to dig through to find it.

How do you do a clean install with Win10? I have legit Win 7 professional key but want clean install on my work PCs
 
MonKENy said:
I dont want to dig through to find it.

How do you do a clean install with Win10? I have legit Win 7 professional key but want clean install on my work PCs
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Unless something has changed in the last few days, you have to do the upgrade first to convert your key to a valid 10 key, then you can run the create USB or ISO tool and just install it. Click skip when it asks for a key, once it's booted it it'll activate all by itself. Worked like a charm twice for me.
 
boomerang said:
I think a lot of people it's a dichotomy. Trying to balance the strong desire for something free with the panic associated with "change" puts them into overload mode.
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Might well be. Actually I'm sure it's the case at least some of the time.
There is so much variation in how people perceive and deal with things, it's amazing marketing types can find any common ground to work with at all.
 
In the Start menu - I would like the ability to set more shortcuts than just those for Windows apps to wide or large.
 
My first in place upgrade failed miserably because I already had issues in my 8.1 registry. When I clean installed 8.1, uninstalled some 3rd party apps and upgraded in place it worked fine and I am running it right now. Give 10 a try first before you condemn it.
 
Ramses said:
Unless something has changed in the last few days, you have to do the upgrade first to convert your key to a valid 10 key, then you can run the create USB or ISO tool and just install it. Click skip when it asks for a key, once it's booted it it'll activate all by itself. Worked like a charm twice for me.
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I think a lot of people don't realize there is a "save nothing" option during the upgrade process which is pretty damn close to a clean install. Your stuff gets saved in .old directories that you can use the HD cleaner to delete if you want. They are also used to downgrade.
 
Ramses said:
Unless something has changed in the last few days, you have to do the upgrade first to convert your key to a valid 10 key, then you can run the create USB or ISO tool and just install it. Click skip when it asks for a key, once it's booted it it'll activate all by itself. Worked like a charm twice for me.
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Do I get the ISO off the website? And how do I get my key or does it use the same key? in other words does it install like a typical clean install and then ask for the key to activate it?
 
MonKENy said:
Do I get the ISO off the website? And how do I get my key or does it use the same key? in other words does it install like a typical clean install and then ask for the key to activate it?
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There's a utility to make the ISO that you can burn off. You don't get a key. MS converts your win 7 key into an ID based on your machine's specific hardware and registers it. When you install fresh, skip the key part of the installer. It will automatically activate later on without you having to do anything because it sees the hardware ID it created during the upgrade install. Do the upgrade install first. Then you can clean install with no entering of the key.
 
I've had two different Win10 installs have problems failing updates, one boot to an endless black screen, then torch my Win7 install on an entirely different hard drive resetting it to fix it (thank god I had it imaged), only to then fail installing KB3081436 after the reset. So I'm not liking Windows 10 very much at all at the moment. 😡
 
nerp said:
There's a utility to make the ISO that you can burn off. You don't get a key. MS converts your win 7 key into an ID based on your machine's specific hardware and registers it. When you install fresh, skip the key part of the installer. It will automatically activate later on without you having to do anything because it sees the hardware ID it created during the upgrade install. Do the upgrade install first. Then you can clean install with no entering of the key.
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Sounds good, thanks for the info!
 
People seem to be having trouble understanding that concept because it's so different from previous MS policies. When I extracted the keys for my desktop and laptop they were identical generic installation keys that are not needed when doing a clean install. The OS will automatically activate itself once it contacts the MS servers upon boot up provided that you upgraded in place and activated prior to the clean install.
 
nerp said:
There's a utility to make the ISO that you can burn off. You don't get a key. MS converts your win 7 key into an ID based on your machine's specific hardware and registers it. When you install fresh, skip the key part of the installer. It will automatically activate later on without you having to do anything because it sees the hardware ID it created during the upgrade install. Do the upgrade install first. Then you can clean install with no entering of the key.
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The version of Windows I upgraded was a retail version, does that still have the same "install it as many times as you like, on what ever you like as long as there's only one current install" thing going on?
 
Windows 10 is really on the news now a days. It is everywhere in the web. And most threads about it are negative. Having to read those made me realize not to switch to Windows 10 and stay on the OS that I am used to be using.
 
And a year later when the free upgrade period ends, you're going to have to pay to have your ass sniffed (telemetry). I hope MS turns it off by default when they start charging for the OS.

PS- just a question, what is the dark shaded part of the CPU usage referring to? I don't remember seeing that in Win 8's task manager
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I've got an interesting issue. I use Emco's Remote Installer program to help manage all of my PCs. It's kind of nice (and there's a free version) as I can setup a group (of PCs), toss the installer on the network, and tell that group to install the software. That allows me to quickly distribute an upgrade to SiliconDust's tuner software or Plex's Home Theater software. So, why am I bringing up this software in a Windows 10 thread? Well, I just can't get it to work! :$

The software requires you have access to an administrative account on each PC. If you just use the same username and password on each machine, it's pretty simple to do. The problem is that I "migrated" to a Microsoft Account for the PC, and now I can't use my normal local account for authentication anymore. What in the world do I provide as proper credentials for remote access when you use a Microsoft Account? Using an '@' symbol gets denoted as a domain qualifier, so I can't just put my e-mail address and password in there.

I'm tempted to just go back to using a local account, but I need the Microsoft Account if I want to access anything on the Windows Marketplace, right?
 
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