If you've been working with computers for 20 years and still don't know how to protect a windows pc, then I suggest you DO get a mac.
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I just read the post 2 above mine, and I must say that this statement is godly:
"If I were a good iProduct iUser, I'd realize my way of doing something was wrong, because Mr. Jobs said so."
There is a mac person where I work, and when something goes wrong they say "Oh, it doesn't like that" even though they have no idea what's happening. I hear that so many times a day it's sickening. Too bad you can't just change some options somewhere to disable all the stupid BS. At least with windows you can.
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I just read the post 2 above mine, and I must say that this statement is godly:
"If I were a good iProduct iUser, I'd realize my way of doing something was wrong, because Mr. Jobs said so."
There is a mac person where I work, and when something goes wrong they say "Oh, it doesn't like that" even though they have no idea what's happening. I hear that so many times a day it's sickening. Too bad you can't just change some options somewhere to disable all the stupid BS. At least with windows you can.
Siddhartha
Lifer
- Oct 17, 1999
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Originally posted by: bluemax
You know... I've been a computer user for +20 years now... 17 of those have been with the IBM-PC compatibles, every version of DOS and Windows...
After a few years of also doing IT work, I've become sick of it. Totally sick of the stupidness of Windows. Noone should ever have to wipe out the OS every 6 months just to keep things from self-destructing!
Linux is not an option for me. I have one crucial music application that's PC and Mac in the same box and will not run on ANY version of Linux.
Besides the amazing stability and security of the Mac OS X (and I hear Tiger is even better!) I consider it a good thing that my entire game library will be rendered useless!
Seriously! I waste too much time on games when I should be writing music. If I had good self control, maybe this wouldn't be a factor, but I'd rather play games than work - even though I enjoy music creation! Best to get rid of them and reduce the ability to get games easily.
If I need a moment of fun, Popcap.com should still work fine.
So.... sensible?
(The inevitable "Mac Sucks!" comments are best ignored as it'll come from people who have NO idea what they're talking about.)
Get the Mac.
What is this stupid BS you speak of? Please go into detail so some of us will know what you are actually talking about. I may be able to help.
Anyways, I own a Powermac G4. Finally upgraded the 400mhz processor to 1GHz. It's wonderful. It's my main machine, and I hardly have any issues with it. I do also own a PC, but I mainly use it for gaming. I :heart: my Powermac. Though I am still living in the stoneage with a 1GHz processor, it works wonderful for what I do, though I wish I had a G5 tower with the 23'' Apple Cinema display.
:cry;
PeteRoy
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Since XP came out I have not had any issues with windows. buy a mac. buy a pc. I don't care. quit your gripin' and do it already.
The only stupid thing about OS X is that mouse speed is very limited. Even though you connect a Logitech MX510 with it's own drivers, it is impossible to turn upp the speed of the pointer. That is the one and only thing that keeps me from buying that nice Power Mac.
Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
The big things going against Macs are gaming and price - keep in mind price includes not only the PC itself, but all those programs you have to re-buy for the Mac's OS and all those expensive programs to do stuff which Windows / Linux freeware does. If you don't game and are rich & lazy, I don't see any reason not to spend $2000+ on a rig to check your email & surf the web... caveat emptor, they say
Funny... the iMac G5 is only $1000US and I'll be doing a whole lot more than surfing and email.
And perhaps you missed the fact my mission-critical music applications are both Mac and PC. In the same box = no re-buying anything.
For Office-style apps, there's always OpenOffice if I need it.
I don't WANT to be a gamer, much as I may like them. Too much wasted time. The fact that few games exist for the Mac is actually a PLUS for me!
If there's any other legitimate reasons not to make the move, let's hear 'em.
Sounds like you've already decided......Haven't used a mac in years
Not really... Like I said, I've been a Windows user since 3.0 and every version of DOS before it. I've been a PC'er long enough to know how to keep my PC mostly spyware and virus-free. Mostly. But it's almost impossible to keep out all. Even Microsoft has its own tracking stuff running in your machines now (an attempt to prevent piracy.) Then there's the whole registry thing... the more software you install/uninstall, them more it clogs up and gets slower and slower and more corrupt.
All this stuff steals CPU cycles, clogs up your machine, makes it slower and eventually unstable and it's time to reinstall Windows. Again.
Like I said, I'm sick of it.
And getting away from the gaming arena. Saying the Mac sucks because there's no games (or almost) is fine. Do you want to buy a bulldozer to do work or go pick up chicks with your flashy new wheels?
My music composing software is Mac or PC only! I've researched it to death and found there is NO way to make it work in Linux. Linux is simply useless for most composers. If I was just *playing* music, this would be a non-issue and I'd be on Linux already.
This isn't rose-tinting.... it's been a step-back-and-really-evaluate look at computing for me. The main facts are, I'm sick of Windows, I don't want the games, I want the great music software, and a good fast stable computer to run it on. You tell me what my choices are after that?
Not really... Like I said, I've been a Windows user since 3.0 and every version of DOS before it. I've been a PC'er long enough to know how to keep my PC mostly spyware and virus-free. Mostly. But it's almost impossible to keep out all. Even Microsoft has its own tracking stuff running in your machines now (an attempt to prevent piracy.) Then there's the whole registry thing... the more software you install/uninstall, them more it clogs up and gets slower and slower and more corrupt.
All this stuff steals CPU cycles, clogs up your machine, makes it slower and eventually unstable and it's time to reinstall Windows. Again.
Like I said, I'm sick of it.
And getting away from the gaming arena. Saying the Mac sucks because there's no games (or almost) is fine. Do you want to buy a bulldozer to do work or go pick up chicks with your flashy new wheels?
My music composing software is Mac or PC only! I've researched it to death and found there is NO way to make it work in Linux. Linux is simply useless for most composers. If I was just *playing* music, this would be a non-issue and I'd be on Linux already.
This isn't rose-tinting.... it's been a step-back-and-really-evaluate look at computing for me. The main facts are, I'm sick of Windows, I don't want the games, I want the great music software, and a good fast stable computer to run it on. You tell me what my choices are after that?
not sure what version of windows you have but the slowdown due to registry clogging is less of an issue in windows xp. windows xp has been really stable for me. I've never had any major issues with spyware and viruses. Using a firewall, anti-virus, and anti-spyware software has been pretty successful for me. Since you are so sick of windows and not into gaming anymore then your decision seems to be made already.
*nod* he must surf tons of porn using IE and never update windows. Sounds like an ideal Mac candidate :laugh: I'd honestly have to work to get spyware.
Megatomic
Lifer
- Nov 9, 2000
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bluemax, I'm sure we'll both get flamed for this but I'm thinking of going Dual G5 next year. I'm almost done gaming and Max OSX offers out of the box almost everything I do on a regular basis. All I need is to buy MS Office for Max and I'd be set.
I'm sure I won't completely abandon wintel, my wife and kids will continue to use it as that's all they know. But I am comfortable with a unix environment and I've liked what I've seen in regards to Max OSX.
I'm sure I won't completely abandon wintel, my wife and kids will continue to use it as that's all they know. But I am comfortable with a unix environment and I've liked what I've seen in regards to Max OSX.
Hrm, this reminds me... I think I read something about a way to get OSX running on an x86 machine. Even if it's untrue, or true but too much of a pain to do, it will be the norm once Apple makes the switch to x86 chips. If you're deadset on a Mac, you should at least wait until this happens. You'll save a lot of money buying the same / better hardware vs. paying Apple's markups.
I'm also thinking of buying a Power Mac G5. I'll use my PC for gaming and Mac for everything else.
I solved that problem: high end game machine running windows (for games) and linux (for everything else), and a powerbook g5 for the essentials
Never assume, smart-alec. No, no porn here (and hey, I have a good marriage, why would I need it?)
XP has automatic updates which I grab on a regular basis. Just surfing the "clean" sites will still result in spyware - it's unavoidable. Viruses have been extremely rare, and I'm 95% sure my software caught it, but one can never be sure.
Like I said, I've been computing since (likely) before you've been born. I've been an IT tech for years. Because I do more than play games, more can go wrong.
I may be misunderstanding you, but go to system preferences and then select keyboard&mouse. It does have the option to increase the speed of it. Maybe the logitech drivers overwrite this, but it worked for me.
(Emphasis added)Originally posted by: mdchesne
I solved that problem: high end game machine running windows (for games) and linux (for everything else), and a powerbook g5 for the essentials
Do you have Steve Job's phone number? I need one too.
:beer:Planning to move to an iBook for everything but bookkeeping and gaming. I'm tired of all the BS from MS, like having to call them each time I reinstall Windows and entering the pages of numbers required to reactivate. And its only going to get worse. Bye-bye MS.
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