So, guess who provided N. Korea with the nukes?

hagbard · Mar 4, 2003

Rumsfeld was on ABB board during deal with North Korea

Anubis · Mar 4, 2003

figures

Zim Hosein · Mar 4, 2003

Was there any question hagbard?

Sluggo · Mar 4, 2003

Hmmm I would have thought that much of it was from the PRC, who were sharing the booty from Los Alamos

charrison · Mar 4, 2003

He was member of a board. I guess that makes him completely responsable.

SoylentGreen · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: charrison
He was member of a board. I guess that makes him completely responsable.

Maybe even responsible!

So their people can have an alternate energy source? You know......

ManSnake · Mar 4, 2003

I knew it! Israel was up to no good :|

HappyPuppy · Mar 4, 2003

It's just another slanted article. It even admits that Rumsfeld may not have even known.

So, what is your point? I voted in the last California election. I did not vote for Gov. Gray Davis. Gray Davis won the election. I am, therefore responsible for Gray Davis being governor of California.

Another analogy:

All fish swim. Humans swim. Therefore, all humans are fish.

Take your claptrap somewhere else.

UltraQuiet · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
It's just another slanted article. It even admits that Rumsfeld may not have even known.

So, what is your point? I voted in the last California election. I did not vote for Gov. Gray Davis. Gray Davis won the election. I am, therefore responsible for Gray Davis being governor of California.

Another analogy:

All fish swim. Humans swim. Therefore, all humans are fish.

Take your claptrap somewhere else.

Don't feed the troll.

Jmman · Mar 4, 2003

Well Hagbard, if your hero Clinton would have dealt with NK before they had nukes, we wouldn't be in this situation right now.....😛

hagbard · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Was there any question hagbard?

Well, its rather odd that every time some country is accused of having WMD they aren't permitted by the US to have, it turns out that some company run by Rumsfeld is connected to it, or there's a picture with him staking the dictator's hand. What's the matter, a late payment or two?

reitz · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
It's just another slanted article. It even admits that Rumsfeld may not have even known.

The article isn't slanted at all..it's hagbard's interpretation that is.

Dudd · Mar 4, 2003

Weapons experts say waste material from the two reactors could be used for so-called ?dirty bombs?.

Dirty bomb != a nuke. Anyways, why would North Korea revert to such low tech methods when they have their own program that makes the real deal?

hagbard · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: Jmman
Well Hagbard, if your hero Clinton would have dealt with NK before they had nukes, we wouldn't be in this situation right now.....😛

Clinton is my "hero". Nice one 😉

I think the whole lot of them should be sent on the next mission into space on one of those nice shuttles.

Jmman · Mar 4, 2003

Don't I remember a quote from you that Bush wasn't fit to lick Clinton's boots....😛

hagbard · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: Jmman
Don't I remember a quote from you that Bush wasn't fit to lick Clinton's boots....😛

That's completely untrue. I do think he's fit to lick Clinton's boots.

Zebo · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Was there any question hagbard?

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Well, its rather odd that every time some country is accused of having WMD they aren't permitted by the US to have, it turns out that some company run by Rumsfeld is connected to it, or there's a picture with him staking the dictator's hand. What's the matter, a late payment or two?

Just so you know the board of directors of a corporation is elected by stockholders to hire folks to actually run the company. So he did'nt run nothin' there.

Also these reators can't make the good sh1t anyway which they already have.

etech · Mar 4, 2003

The new light water reactors are not even built yet.

So once again Hagbard, you are shown to be lying.

shiner · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: hagbard
Rumsfeld was on ABB board during deal with North Korea

Do you honestly think that the Board of Directors for a company is involved in every business deal a company makes? A B.O.D. is there to oversee the company and the people running it, there are not there to make the day to day decisions about running the company or the business deals that the company operates by. A B.O.D. is nothing more than an oversight committee elected by the stockholders.

If you really want to put the blame for NK having nukes and the current situation blame the Clinton Administration. I'm not one of the people that tries to blame them for everything that has gone wrong, but this situation is cleary one they created.

LeeTJ · Mar 4, 2003

The Bush government has repeatedly used the agreement to criticise the former Clinton administration for being too soft on North Korea. Rumsfeld?s deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, has been among the most vocal critics of the 1994 weapons accord.

Pot meet kettle. now which of you were black?

LeeTJ · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: hagbard
Rumsfeld was on ABB board during deal with North Korea

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Do you honestly think that the Board of Directors for a company is involved in every business deal a company makes? A B.O.D. is there to oversee the company and the people running it, there are not there to make the day to day decisions about running the company or the business deals that the company operates by. A B.O.D. is nothing more than an oversight committee elected by the stockholders.

If you really want to put the blame for NK having nukes and the current situation blame the Clinton Administration. I'm not one of the people that tries to blame them for everything that has gone wrong, but this situation is cleary one they created.

Normally i'd agree with you, but his reaction to the situation and their continued harrasment of clinton makes me think he did know and it just trying to shift the heat. 🙂

btw, this isn't just day to day, he may not have known all the specifics of the deal, but it seems strange to try and claim he knew NOTHING of the deal.

etech · Mar 4, 2003

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

The Bush government has repeatedly used the agreement to criticise the former Clinton administration for being too soft on North Korea. Rumsfeld?s deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, has been among the most vocal critics of the 1994 weapons accord.

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Pot meet kettle. now which of you were black?

How do you figure.

The Clinton administration made the deal. Rumsfeld was on a board of directors of a company. Was he supposed to tell his company to turn down a contract that was approved of by the current US administration?

Please try to stay in this plane of reality. thank you.

Ferocious · Mar 5, 2003

hehe.....typical Republican hypocrisy.

Patriotism.......unless it effects your profits. 🙁

Stark · Mar 5, 2003

The ABB contract was a consequence of a 1994 deal between the US and Pyongyang to allow construction of two reactors in exchange for a freeze on the North?s nuclear weapons programme.

the US made an agreement with NK and NK broke the deal. Do you think Clinton's administration knew they would reneg?

Someone had to build the reactors... so what if Rumsfeld was on the BOD of the SWISS company that won the contract.

ElFenix · Mar 5, 2003

OMG a swiss company sold NK some nuke plants under a deal the NKs reneged on! those damn swiss, they should rot in hell!

So, guess who provided N. Korea with the nukes?

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