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Red Squirrel

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No way my parents would have let me do THIS in their house, nor would a wife let me if I had one. :D

Still in progress, and much more cabling to come. That will be where the server room will be so all the cabling will join up there. All those cables only cover the office. :Q

Today I do the jack punch downs. Never did this before so hopefully my jacks will work. :p

Later on I'll do all the coax through the patch panel as well. So glad I went with a blank keystone patch panel, it opens up more options.

Fun stuff.
 

mugs

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My wife let me and encouraged it. ;) I'd post pics, but it's kind of messy right now

Long story short I ran:
4x Cat6 to 2nd and 3rd bedroom
4x Cat6 to family room
2x Cat6 to garage

1x Cat5e for phones (I had it left over from something else) to 2nd, 3rd bedroom and garage

RG-6 for TV to 2nd, 3rd bedroom, garage, family room (2x), master bedroom

It all runs back to my basement where I have a 24 port patch panel, 16 port switch, 4 port router, vonage box, cable modem, 10 db cable amplifier with 8 way splitter, NAS drive, media server <Tim Allen grunt>
 

chuckywang

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Hmm ... how hard is this to do? I want to do this as well, but I don't want to go around drilling holes in my wall.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Hmm ... how hard is this to do? I want to do this as well, but I don't want to go around drilling holes in my wall.

Drilling holes in the wall is part of the process... Although it will look nice when you're done (wall jack covers)
 

Terabyte

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Originally posted by: mugs
My wife let me and encouraged it. ;) I'd post pics, but it's kind of messy right now

Long story short I ran:
4x Cat6 to 2nd and 3rd bedroom
4x Cat6 to family room
2x Cat6 to garage

1x Cat5e for phones (I had it left over from something else) to 2nd, 3rd bedroom and garage

RG-6 for TV to 2nd, 3rd bedroom, garage, family room (2x), master bedroom

It all runs back to my basement where I have a 24 port patch panel, 16 port switch, 4 port router, vonage box, cable modem, 10 db cable amplifier with 8 way splitter, NAS drive, media server <Tim Allen grunt>

:confused: or rather...:Q Right now in my apartment, I have a cable modem connected to a wireless router and a TV. :laugh:
 

rivan

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I like the plaster/lathe my house is made of, but it makes things pretty difficult for doing anything like that.

Anything outside the main part of the first floor's wireless for me.
 

Red Squirrel

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Originally posted by: mugs
My wife let me and encouraged it. ;) I'd post pics, but it's kind of messy right now

Long story short I ran:
4x Cat6 to 2nd and 3rd bedroom
4x Cat6 to family room
2x Cat6 to garage

1x Cat5e for phones (I had it left over from something else) to 2nd, 3rd bedroom and garage

RG-6 for TV to 2nd, 3rd bedroom, garage, family room (2x), master bedroom

It all runs back to my basement where I have a 24 port patch panel, 16 port switch, 4 port router, vonage box, cable modem, 10 db cable amplifier with 8 way splitter, NAS drive, media server <Tim Allen grunt>

Haha nice, that's my plan. Later on I'll run the RG6, and when I redo the basement I'm going drop ceiling so it's easier to make runs if I decide to add/modify.

I'd do RG6 now but I'm broke. It's fairly cheap on monoprice though so think that will be a soon project.

Right now I'll have 4 cat6 to the main office jack (3 ethernet and 1 phone) and two more cat6 in the office on another wall where the pc support desk will go, that will be 2 ethernet.

Debating on adding a few to the spare bedroom. Good place to put a machine that needs extended testing/work time or something to clear it from my office. I constantly have people wanting me to fix their PCs, now I'm properly setup for it.



Originally posted by: chuckywang
Hmm ... how hard is this to do? I want to do this as well, but I don't want to go around drilling holes in my wall.


Not too bad, I'm new to this as well, but basically what you want to do is get a decent drill, a drywall knife (looks like a small saw) and a very long drill bit. They're often called installers drill bits. Some have a hole so you can pull the wires up, but I don't really use it, I just shove the wires up then pull them with a coat hanger or a curled piece of 10/3 wire. :p

The process is decide where the jack will go and make sure there's no stud using a stud finder, keep it low to the ground (low enough so your drill bit can reach the basement in an angle) then measure the proper opening for the plastic box (check home depot for "low voltage remodel box" no stud required).

Make the rectangular hole, make it a tad too small then just grind the edges as needed while trying to put the box in that way it will be a tight fit. Once you know it will fit perfectly drill downwards. You'll drill through the horizontal 2x that holds the studs, and then through the main sub floor, then go downstairs and look for the hole and then start fishing.

If the basement is done, or this is a 2 story house and you're installing on 2nd story, it may be much harder to do.

You want to get keystone plates and keystone jacks, they snap in and are modular. Monoprice is a good site to get them and if you live in the states you probably wont pay 100 bucks shipping like I did. :p

Oh and for actually feeding the wire, I used "screw eyes" in the joists and strapping. You could use wire staples and also make holes in the joists if going perpendicular but I rather not push down too hard on the cable and damage it and I opted to keep all data runs below the joists and electrical in the middle that way they never come in close contact. Also too many holes in the joists may be bad structurally. Once I layed out my patch I measured it all giving 1/2 a foot extra here and there to be safe so I know how long to cut my cables.

Avoid outside walls, they're harder. I had to get someone to help me, he had fish tape that he let me borrow, what you do in that case is fish the tape (kinda like a metal wire) upwards so it sticks out of the jack, tie all your cables to it with electrical tape then pull it down.

 

kalrith

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So, a wife wouldn't let you run cables all over the basement? My wife has no problems with that as long as I hide the cables in the main living area.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: kalrith
So, a wife wouldn't let you run cables all over the basement? My wife has no problems with that as long as I hide the cables in the main living area.

My wife probably wouldn't have a problem with the cables as much as she'd have a problem with the destruction necessary to run cables through our house and the potential cost. Wireless was much easier.

But, on the topic of doing something you could only do while single....one of my single friends has three TVs hooked up in his living room and is subscribed to every sports package known to man. I'd never be able to get away with that.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.
 

Chaotic42

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I'd love to do that but:

-I have blow in insulation in the attic which makes it a nightmare
-I have no floorboards in the attic to get around on
-My joists are so low and complicated in the attic that I'd have to crawl around on the unsupported insulation to wire the house

I'm jealous. :p
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

For a desktop, though, having a direct line to the network is a hell of a lot better than dealing with USB dongle nipples or add-in cards and antennae.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.

Seriously wireless sucks compared to CAT 6 / gigabit.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

For a desktop, though, having a direct line to the network is a hell of a lot better than dealing with USB dongle nipples or add-in cards and antennae.

I have two Linksys WRT-54Gs running DD-WRT that act as wireless bridges to my main FIOS router. One connects my print server and desktop. The other connects my Tivo, Xbox and Blu-Ray. Wireless runs 802.11g with WPA2 AES encryption and I have 0 issues whatsoever.

I like the idea of running wires, but the basement is finished in our townhouse and this solution was much simpler and cleaner.
 

MiniDoom

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dress those cables in better. that looks like shit.:|

<--- former cable installer. ;)
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.

HD streaming over wireless = not cool.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.

wired is a waste of time?

If you are actually using the bandwidth (people with NAS and server systems), wireless is hell. Nothing can touch gigabit ethernet if you are making use of the bandwidth. Especially if that bandwidth is desired everywhere in the house, as if often the case for people using servers and/or a NAS.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.

HD streaming over wireless = not cool.

^^ Exactly; I tried streaming 720p and even that was too much for wireless to handle without constant stuttering; 1080p? Forget about it.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

You ever try streaming HD over wireless? Ha! Maybe when wireless N's replacement comes out in a decade. Even wireless N isn't official yet.

10 gigabit wired is where it's at. The best you can hope for wireless is a paltry 300 mb/s.
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: Juddog
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

Seriously, use wireless and then work on other projects to make the house look nice. What a waste of time/money.

HD streaming over wireless = not cool.

^^ Exactly; I tried streaming 720p and even that was too much for wireless to handle without constant stuttering; 1080p? Forget about it.

That has been my experience. A wireless MCE box can be really frustrating when you start trying to explore network functionality. Especially when you've got content on a server and multiple people are pulling from it over wireless.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

For a desktop, though, having a direct line to the network is a hell of a lot better than dealing with USB dongle nipples or add-in cards and antennae.

Not to mention how much faster, more reliable and more secure it is. Wireless is crap. Its ONLY advantage is the lack of wires.
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

For a desktop, though, having a direct line to the network is a hell of a lot better than dealing with USB dongle nipples or add-in cards and antennae.

Not to mention how much faster, more reliable and more secure it is. Wireless is crap. Its ONLY advantage is the lack of wires.

Perfect username, dude. :D
 

imagoon

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
dude, wireless, wires are so '90's

dude, wires, intermittent slow crappy wireless that gets cut of when your neighbor turns on their microwave and has to compete with 17 other wireless AP's is so last year.