So for Calderon it is do as I say, not as we do.

Linflas

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I heard of this interview conducted by Wolf Blitzer and it sounded interesting enough to look up given his reception by our Congress yesterday. It seems they have no problems with enforcing their laws. Don't worry they are "trying to change" now.

BLITZER: All right. Let's talk a little bit about Mexico's laws. I read an article in "The Washington Times" the other day. I'm going to read a paragraph to you and you tell me if this is true or not true. This is from "The Washington Times": "Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to reenter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals."

Is that true?

CALDERON: It was true, but it is not anymore. We derogate or we erased that part of the law. Actually, the legal immigration is not a -- is not a crime in Mexico. Not anymore, since one year ago. And that is the reason why we are trying to establish our own comprehensive public policy talking about, for instance, immigrants coming from Central America...

BLITZER: So if...

CALDERON: -- (INAUDIBLE).

BLITZER: So if people want to come from Guatemala or Honduras or El Salvador or Nicaragua, they want to just come into Mexico, they can just walk in?

CALDERON: No. They need to fulfill a form. They need to establish their right name. We analyze if they have not a criminal precedent. And they coming into Mexico. Actually...

BLITZER: Do Mexican police go around asking for papers of people they suspect are illegal immigrants?

CALDERON: Of course. Of course, in the border, we are asking the people, who are you?

And if they explain...

BLITZER: At the border, I understand, when they come in.

CALDERON: Yes.

BLITZER: But once they're in...

CALDERON: But not -- but not in -- if -- once they are inside the -- inside the country, what the Mexican police do is, of course, enforce the law. But by any means, immigration is a crime anymore in Mexico.

BLITZER: Immigration is not a crime, you're saying?

CALDERON: It's not a crime.

BLITZER: So in other words, if somebody sneaks in from Nicaragua or some other country in Central America, through the southern border of Mexico, they wind up in Mexico, they can go get a job...

CALDERON: No, no.

BLITZER: They can work.

CALDERON: If -- if somebody do that without permission, we send back -- we send back them.

BLITZER: You find them and you send them back?

CALDERON: Yes. However, especially with the people of Guatemala, we are providing a new system in which any single citizen from Guatemala could be able to visit any single border (INAUDIBLE) in the south. And even with all the requirements, he can or she can visit any parts of Mexico.

BLITZER: I ask the questions because there's an argument that people in Arizona and New Mexico and -- and Texas, they say they're only trying to do in their states what Mexico itself does in the southern part of Mexico.

CALDERON: I know. And that is a very powerful argument. But that is one of the reasons why we are trying to change our policy.

And let me be frank, Wolf. In the past, Mexican authorities were in a -- in a -- in an unfortunate way in the treatment for immigrants. But now we are changing the policy. We changed already the law. And that is different today. We are trying to write a new story, talking about immigrants, especially coming from Central American countries.

Interview with Mexican President Felipe Calderon
 

nick1985

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I'm embarrassed for him. And this guy was allowed to lecture the United States Congress on immigration and firearms laws? Obama should be ashamed of himself.
 

highland145

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I'm embarrassed for him. And this guy was allowed to lecture the United States Congress on immigration and firearms laws? Obama should be ashamed of himself.
Don't forget that he got a standing ovation from some members of the US Congress.
 

BoberFett

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Send this asshole packing. We don't need the bullshit he's peddling, we've got enough here already.
 

Svnla

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Oh nooooooooooooooooooo. It is soooooooooooooooo racist of ya'll to make fun and mock him, el grande Presidente!!!!!

/sarcastic :)

On the serious side, where are all the ILLEGALS advocates and lovers now? I wonder what do they have to say about what el presidente said.
 
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Wolf Blitzer should invite someone in authority from Guatemala to come on his show to explain in depth what really is going on with those two countries.

The hatred between Mexico and Guatemala makes the tensions with illegals in the US look like a minor irritation.
 

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I think most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. If there are jobs and opportunities available come on in. But we don't want people who will suck the system and we don't want criminals. Immigration reform is more than just securing our borders but its a part.
 

ProfJohn

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Hypocrisy at its finest.

Seems that the only reason Mexico changed it laws about illegals is too stop people from suggesting we follow the same policy they had.

I guess they realized that their own citizens who enter the US illegally are providing more of a benefit than what they lose via illegals who enter across their southern boarder.
 

ProfJohn

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I think most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. If there are jobs and opportunities available come on in. But we don't want people who will suck the system and we don't want criminals. Immigration reform is more than just securing our borders but its a part.
pssst unemployment is near 10%

How many more Americans would be working if we didn't have a few million illegals here sucking up jobs?
 

GoPackGo

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pssst unemployment is near 10%

How many more Americans would be working if we didn't have a few million illegals here sucking up jobs?

Unfortunately we have raised an entitlement society where people don't want to work the fields unless they can ride a $500,000 tractor.
 

bfdd

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lol hilarious absolutely hilarious. i hope this comes back to bite everyone in the ass who stood up and clapped for this moron.
 

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I think most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. If there are jobs and opportunities available come on in. But we don't want people who will suck the system and we don't want criminals. Immigration reform is more than just securing our borders but its a part.

This is really what the problem is. Those that criticize people who are against illegal immigration throw legal immigration into the same bucket. It's two different issues.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Quote: Originally Posted by GoPackGo I think most Americans have no problem with legal immigration. If there are jobs and opportunities available come on in. But we don't want people who will suck the system and we don't want criminals. Immigration reform is more than just securing our borders but its a part. This is really what the problem is. Those that criticize people who are against illegal immigration throw legal immigration into the same bucket. It's two different issues.

Exactly, and historically we (the US) have failed miserably at managing both issues. I agree Calderon is an idiot and a worse public speaker than GWB, but both of these immigration issues are a failure on OUR part and really have nothing to do with Caleron or mexican immigration laws.
 

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That standing ovation almost made me throw up. It's like they live in a fucking bubble.
 

Linflas

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That standing ovation almost made me throw up. It's like they live in a fucking bubble.

Some of them do. They live in districts so cleverly gerrymandered they could get caught sleeping with a 10 year old and win re-election.
 

Svnla

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This is really what the problem is. Those that criticize people who are against illegal immigration throw legal immigration into the same bucket. It's two different issues.

Amen.

As a LEGAL immigrant, it bother me a lot whenever someone got the two mixed together.

LEGAL = good, ILLEGAL = bad. Period.

And one more thing, it is ILLEGAL immigrant, NOT "undocument" immigrant bullcrap. And no more "comprehensive" immigration policy because it means AMNESTY for ILLEGALS. Just look at what we did in 1986. Did that policy work out? Hell no.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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And one more thing, it is ILLEGAL immigrant, NOT "undocument" immigrant bullcrap.

That's PC speak for you. We wouldn't want to possibly hurt someone's feelings, now would we?

Once that is exposed, they'll have a new nickname for them. Maybe something like "border-challenged" or something like that?