So do you record any information when filling up?

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Newbian

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Aug 24, 2008
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Originally posted by: TridenT
Are you going to be doing anything else while the gas goes into the tank? I think not. (And if you're one of those pricks who leaves their car at the gas pump while they take fucking forever inside the store then you should kill yourself. I hate you)

Well short of going in and buying the stuff while the gas is pumping and then coming back out and placing the nozzle back and going in again to pay for gas how would you do it?

Can't simply move your car right away before you pay for the gas in case someone resets the total.
 
Apr 20, 2008
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Miles/Gallons purchased.

Always fill up your tank and it becomes ridiculously easy to calculate gas mileage.
 

Newbian

Lifer
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I do know some people do this to test the different fuel efficiency of certain types of gasoline.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Newbian
I do know some people do this to test the different fuel efficiency of certain types of gasoline.

High octane=worse gas mileage
 

Newbian

Lifer
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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Newbian
I do know some people do this to test the different fuel efficiency of certain types of gasoline.

High octane=worse gas mileage

Well more along the line of the type of gas stations.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Newbian

Well more along the line of the type of gas stations.

I never really noticed a difference with the stations around me. They were all pretty much the same. In the winter my mileage would go down. It was that scam oxygenation chemical they put into the mix. I don't think they do it anymore after they found it was contaminating ground water :^/
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: DEMO24
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Newbian
I do know some people do this to test the different fuel efficiency of certain types of gasoline.

High octane=worse gas mileage

:confused:

High octane gas burns cooler, so you don't get as much power out of a gallon of fuel. That's why you shouldn't use it unless your car specifically needs it(turbo, high compression...)

Edit:
grammar
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Newbian

Well more along the line of the type of gas stations.

I never really noticed a difference with the stations around me. They were all pretty much the same. In the winter my mileage would go down. It was that scam oxygenation chemical they put into the mix. I don't think they do it anymore after they found it was contaminating ground water :^/

They don't use MTBE or ETBE anymore, but all gasoline is still oxygenated in the form of ethanol.

The reason for worse fuel economy in the winter is two fold; first, "winter blend" gasoline contains physically less energy than summer blend. Second, it takes your car longer to warm up during the colder months, meaning the fuel system spends more time feeding your engine a rich mixture, reducing fuel economy.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Eli


They don't use MTBE or ETBE anymore, but all gasoline is still oxygenated in the form of ethanol.

Ah, that's it. I couldn't remember what it was for the life of me. I need to go to bed. I'm just sitting here poking keys like a monkey :^D
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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You bet. The miles on my odo. When I get home I take the receipt and make an entry into my gas table in my custom information data system, including the odo reading, gallons, price/gallon. The application automatically calculates my miles/gallon, all the info is right there to browse for the history on both my cars.
 

dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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I usually just set the trip meter when I fill up. pretty good way to notice any changes in milage.



My dad does this and it's just to monitor fuel usage. But he just record milage and gallons pumped.
 

GeekDrew

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Jun 7, 2000
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Yeah, every time I fill up... odometer reading, station brand, octane, cost per gallon, quantity, total price. I enter it into Vehicle Manager for Windows Mobile. I have no reason to... I'm just anal retentive that way. I also keep track of maintenance and etc using the same program. I also reset the trip meter every time I fill up.

And what's this about getting lower mileage with higher octane fuels? I've always experienced the exact opposite... is it because of the way my vehicles have been designed to operate or 'tuned'?
 

chin311

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i used "ROAD TRIP LITE" for the iPhone, keeps track of MPG, gas price & gallons filled etc.

usually i remember to do it, helps keep track, i think my "AVG" is about 29mpg
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Yeah, every time I fill up... odometer reading, station brand, octane, cost per gallon, quantity, total price. I enter it into Vehicle Manager for Windows Mobile. I have no reason to... I'm just anal retentive that way. I also keep track of maintenance and etc using the same program. I also reset the trip meter every time I fill up.

And what's this about getting lower mileage with higher octane fuels? I've always experienced the exact opposite... is it because of the way my vehicles have been designed to operate or 'tuned'?

If your vehicle's engine doesn't require high octane fuel, (high compression engine, turbo-charged, etc.) then your engine won't burn high octane fuel correctly and you may even get lower gas mileage. .

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pub...sumer/autos/aut12.shtm

http://www.straightdope.com/co...remium-and-regular-gas

 

thomsbrain

Lifer
Dec 4, 2001
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I just use my Scangauge.

I have found that most gas pumps sucks a fair bit of gas back into the vapor recovery system or something. There's like half a gallon or so of "extra" gas that always gets pumped regardless of how much of the tank you used. So I've taken to avoiding fillups until I've used most of the tank. If I drive 30 miles and get 30 miles to the gallon but pump 1.4 gallons, I know the pump is fucking me in the ass. I have my Scangauge set to compensate for this over a tank of gas, but for small fillups, it doesn't have enough time to balance out the seemingly constant overfill.
 

SparkyJJO

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May 16, 2002
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Originally posted by: irishScott
My parents have this weird habit of copying down the mileage, gallons bought, price/gallon and date in a little book whenever they gas up. My sister and I are also required to do this (as we're technically driving their cars), and they're quite anal about it. Granted on such a small issue I don't mind complying, but when I asked them why we do it they gave me a vague response about visa bills with no real detail. Given that I almost always pay in cash or with my debit card, that makes no sense when applied to me and my sister.

Anyone else able to shed some light on this? Just curious if there's an actual reason or if it's yet another of my parents' OCD habits.

Heh my parents do this too. When I first started driving, I had to as well since it was their car and such. Now the habit rubbed off and I find myself recording everything too! I don't know why, I just do.
 

Sasiki

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It really helps when selling a car if you can show any time the car was touched.. gas fill ups, oil, tire pressure checked, etc. It shows that you took good care of the car.
 

marvdmartian

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My dad did it, and I do too. He told me if you keep track of the mpg, you get a feel for when your engine isn't running right, by noticing a drop in mileage (as was pointed out earlier in the thread, by lxskllr). Really no other reason to do it, except maybe to satisfy your OCD.

Eli, next time you have that sort of over-pump, you need to request that the gas station attendant shut down the pump and call someone who can check the "proof" of the pump with a 5 gallon prover can. They'll be licensed by your state's weights and measures folks to check the pump, and verify it's pumping the correct amount (and correct the adjustment, if necessary). Tell the station attendant that you will be calling your state's weights and measures department, and complaining about the problem (the number should be on the sticker that the prover company put on the dispenser).

If they've been notified of a problem, and continue to dispense fuel from that pump, and it's later proven that it was out of calibration, they can face some pretty hefty fines. Also, once the calibration folks run a "proof" on the dispenser, they'd be able to tell how far off it was from reality, and you can calculate how much was actually pumped (and how much the gas station owes you in return, for overcharging you).
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Only did that when driving cross-country last year, for tax reasons, and just to know.

But I do reset the tripometer every time I fill up. I keep all the info that I need in my noggin.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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I write the mileage on every gas receipt. When I download the CC info, I note the mileage for each purchase in MS Money. Once every few months I export the entries to Excel.

This pleases me very much.


Date Gals Cumulative Gals Miles Amount MPG
12/18/2006 5.733 5.733 -14.5
12/24/2006 8.092 13.825 -20.06
12/24/2006 14.102 27.927 -34.68
12/28/2006 11.523 39.45 -28.34
1/1/2007 11.161 50.611 -27.44
1/5/2007 10.427 61.038 -25.64
1/5/2007 6.155 67.193 -15.14
1/10/2007 12.025 79.218 -29.57
1/15/2007 11.507 90.725 -29.91
1/18/2007 11.793 102.518 1941 -29 18.9332605
1/21/2007 13.226 115.744 -42.08
1/21/2007 10.362 126.106 -27.97
1/22/2007 12.709 138.815 2597 -35.19 18.70835284
1/23/2007 12.839 151.654 -35.42
1/24/2007 13.277 164.931 3058 -32.65
1/28/2007 10.255 175.186 3263 -23.78 19.99024866
2/4/2007 14.032 189.218 3535 -33.66 19.38426454
2/6/2007 11.911 201.129 3780 -27.98 20.56922173
2/12/2007 8.294 209.423 3950 -19.73 20.49674463
2/19/2007 10.207 219.63 4139 -25.1 18.51670422
2/21/2007 13.077 232.707 4394 -32.16 19.49988529
2/23/2007 10.025 242.732 4586 -25.05 19.1521197
2/26/2007 9.738 252.47 4758 -25.11 17.66276443
3/4/2007 12.463 264.933 5007 -32.14 19.97913825
3/8/2007 11.377 276.31 5239 -29.8 20.39201899
3/8/2007 7.981 284.291 5379 -22.02 17.54166145
3/12/2007 9.184 293.475 5560 -25.34 19.70818815
3/16/2007 14.269 307.744 5852 -39.94 20.46394281
3/19/2007 6.793 314.537 5994 -19.35 20.90387163
3/25/2007 14.488 329.025 6259 -42 18.29099945
4/2/2007 11.221 340.246 6481 -33.43 19.78433295
4/6/2007 12.775 353.021 6729 -39.08 19.41291585
4/12/2007 14.037 367.058 6993 -42.1 18.80743749
4/17/2007 11.593 378.651 7209 -35.69 18.63193306
4/19/2007 9.792 388.443 7381 -32.01 17.56535948
4/22/2007 11.721 400.164 7585 -37.5 17.40465831
4/23/2007 12.173 412.337 7837 -37.24 20.70155262
4/23/2007 11.838 424.175 8059 -37.51 18.75316776
4/30/2007 13.476 437.651 8333 -43.11 20.33244286
5/6/2007 11.202 448.853 8549 -35.16 19.28227102
5/9/2007 11.279 460.132 8766 -35.4 19.23929426
5/17/2007 12.294 472.426 9011 -40.31 19.92842037
5/22/2007 13.319 485.745 9271 -43.67 19.52098506
5/27/2007 11.012 496.757 9485 -37.21 19.43334544
5/28/2007 9.232 505.989 9665 -30.28 19.49740035
6/1/2007 11.291 517.28 9888 -37.25 19.75024356
6/8/2007 14.425 531.705 10171 -46.15 19.6187175
6/11/2007 7.78 539.485 10310 -26.29 17.86632391
6/14/2007 10.138 549.623 10503 -32.43 19.03728546
6/21/2007 14.357 563.98 10775 -44.21 18.94546214
6/24/2007 11.022 575.002 10988 -37.24 19.32498639
6/28/2007 14.854 589.856 11280 -45.14 19.65800458
7/1/2007 8.361 598.217 11443 -27.75 19.49527568
7/3/2007 11.622 609.839 11647 -36.71 17.55291688
7/8/2007 13.896 623.735 11901 -41.67 18.27864134
7/16/2007 8.984 632.719 12068 -29.1 18.58860196
7/18/2007 11.902 644.621 12287 -36.88 18.40026886
8/1/2007 13.243 657.864 12562 -38.39 20.76568753
8/6/2007 10.282 668.146 12762 -30.73 19.45146859
8/12/2007 9.959 678.105 12945 -31.23 18.37533889
8/16/2007 10.767 688.872 13161 -31.11 20.06129841
8/20/2007 11.116 699.988 13400 -32.11 21.50053976
8/24/2007 6.924 706.912 13660 -20 37.55054882
9/2/2007 14.053 720.965 13827 -39.62 11.88358358
9/11/2007 14.558 735.523 14123 -40.75 20.33246325
9/14/2007 15.026 750.549 14428 -41.16 20.29814987
9/19/2007 12.093 762.642 14671 -34.94 20.09426941
9/23/2007 12.842 775.484 14921 -37.1 19.46737268
10/19/2007 14.901 790.385 15215 -44.09 19.73021945
10/22/2007 10.188 800.573 15423 -31.47 20.41617589
10/25/2007 15.634 816.207 15730 -46.89 19.63668927
10/30/2007 12.756 828.963 15988 -38.26 20.22577611
11/7/2007 11.587 840.55 16217 -37.07 19.76352809
11/11/2007 14.051 854.601 16517 -43.26 21.35079354
11/20/2007 12.949 867.55 16751 -41.42 18.07089351
11/26/2007 12.468 880.018 16993 -39.89 19.4096888
12/2/2007 13.138 893.156 17245 -42.03 19.18100167
12/9/2007 11.161 904.317 17458 -34.59 19.08431144
12/14/2007 15.627 919.944 17754 -48.43 18.94157548
12/18/2007 9.333 929.277 17922 -28.92 18.00064288
12/18/2007 14.309 943.586 18212 -43.77 20.26696485
12/23/2007 11.452 955.038 18435 -36.86 19.47258121
12/26/2007 13.351 968.389 18688 -42.18 18.94989139
12/31/2007 14.237 982.626 18964 -44.12 19.38610662
1/1/2008 5.611 988.237 19059 -17.33 16.93102834
1/3/2008 9.103 997.34 19227 -28.21 18.45545425
1/7/2008 9.222 1006.562 19405 -29.5 19.30166992
1/13/2008 11.557 1018.119 19629 -36.05 19.38219261
1/16/2008 12.477 1030.596 19892 -38.42 21.07878496
1/23/2008 15.273 1045.869 20188 -46.72 19.3806063
1/31/2008 13.436 1059.305 20457 -41.1 20.02083954
2/5/2008 12.041 1071.346 20697 -36.35 19.93189934
2/11/2008 12.992 1084.338 20941 -41.04 18.78078818
2/11/2008 13.569 1097.907 21209 -41.64 19.75090279
2/20/2008 13.923 1111.83 21505 -43.98 21.25978597
2/25/2008 8.692 1120.522 21693 -27.98 21.62908422
3/2/2008 13.524 1134.046 21973 -43.53 20.70393375
3/10/2008 13.913 1147.959 22241 -46.73 19.2625602
3/11/2008 8.884 1156.843 22429 -30.2 21.1616389
3/16/2008 12.47 1169.313 22676 -43.13 19.80753809
3/23/2008 10.104 1179.417 22874 -34.95 19.59619952
3/24/2008 6.08 1185.497 22995 -22.37 19.90131579
3/30/2008 14.3 1199.797 23272 -52.61 19.37062937
3/31/2008 11.18 1210.977 23509 -38.22 21.19856887
3/31/2008 14.826 1225.803 23792 -50.69 19.08808849
4/7/2008 13.722 1239.525 24061 -45.82 19.60355633
4/13/2008 13.724 1253.249 24320 -46.1 18.87204897
4/20/2008 10.691 1263.94 24538 -37.62 20.39098307
4/20/2008 11.981 1275.921 24763 -44.08 18.77973458
4/21/2008 12.389 1288.31 24995 -50.78 18.72628945
4/23/2008 6.571 1294.881 25123 -26.21 19.47953127
4/23/2008 13.809 1308.69 25407 -53.98 20.56629734
4/27/2008 12.312 1321.002 25641 -44.06 19.00584795
5/8/2008 15.325 1336.327 25935 -56.07 19.18433931
5/21/2008 11.776 1348.103 26169 -44.74 19.87092391
5/27/2008 12.528 1360.631 26408 -48.6 19.07726692
6/1/2008 13.166 1373.797 26681 -52.65 20.7352271
6/9/2008 13.608 1387.405 26953 -53.06 19.98824221
6/15/2008 15.418 1402.823 27239 -61.96 18.54974705
6/26/2008 14.912 1417.735 27540 -62.02 20.18508584
7/3/2008 11.513 1429.248 27761 -47.88 19.19569183
7/6/2008 9.533 1438.781 27938 -40.79 18.56708277
7/7/2008 8.485 1447.266 28112 -36.31 20.50677666
7/13/2008 14.086 1461.352 28391 -57.18 19.80690047
7/29/2008 13.096 1474.448 28638 -51.85 18.86072083
9/8/2008 10.082 1484.53 28812 -37.7 17.25848046
9/11/2008 15.787 1500.317 29133 -59.03 20.33318553
9/16/2008 10.939 1511.256 29330 -42.1 18.00895877
9/29/2008 8.779 1520.035 29506 -32.3 20.04784144
10/5/2008 9.684 1529.719 29699 -35.24 19.92978108
10/7/2008 11.96 1541.679 29893 -41.61 16.22073579
10/16/2008 11.481 1553.16 30095 -37.19 17.59428621
10/27/2008 11.721 1564.881 30310 -34.21 18.34314478
10/28/2008 10.389 1575.27 30517 -30.95 19.92492059
11/4/2008 8.898 1584.168 30668 -28.46 16.97010564
11/11/2008 11.26 1595.428 30893 -30.17 19.98223801
11/24/2008 12.429 1607.857 31132 -24.6 19.22922198
12/2/2008 9.263 1617.12 31307 -17.41 18.89236748
12/8/2008 7.534 1624.654 31456 -14.23 19.77701088
12/15/2008 10.339 1634.993 31656 -19.43 19.34423058
12/23/2008 10.25 1645.243 31842 -19.26 18.14634146
1/5/2009 7.668 1652.911 31971 -15.17 16.82316119
1/19/2009 8.13 1661.041 32125 -16.9 18.94218942
1/20/2009 8.291 1669.332 32277 -17.24 18.33313231
1/27/2009 7.294 1676.626 32408 -15.89 17.9599671
2/2/2009 6.868 1683.494 32520 -14.07 16.3075131
2/3/2009 10.027 1693.521 32706 -22.85 18.54991523
2/17/2009 13.574 1707.095 32944 -32.29 17.53351996
2/19/2009 14.481 1721.576 33223 -29.82 19.26662523
2/25/2009 10.831 1732.407 33435 -23.6 19.57344659
3/1/2009 8.113 1740.52 33603 -18.17 20.70750647
3/9/2009 12.748 1753.268 33820 -28.03 17.022278
3/23/2009 10.308 1763.576 34009 -22.46 18.33527357
4/6/2009 11.24 1774.816 34229 -24.72 19.57295374
4/10/2009 12.087 1786.903 34445 -24.89 17.87043931
4/14/2009 8.878 1795.781 34604 -19.35 17.90943906
4/19/2009 10.36 1806.141 34810 -21.95 19.88416988
5/4/2009 11.306 1817.447 35014 -25.99 18.04351672
5/19/2009 15.752 1833.199 35336 -36.21 20.44184865
5/25/2009 15.429 1848.628 35621 -37.01 18.47170912
5/26/2009 7.415 1856.043 35768 -18.53 19.8246797
5/31/2009 9.349 1865.392 35945 -26.64 18.93250615
6/9/2009 11.097 1876.489 36150 -29.73 18.4734613
6/24/2009 8.761 1885.25 36332 -23.82 20.77388426
6/24/2009 4.996 1890.246 36433 -13.98 20.21617294
6/30/2009 11.844 1902.09 36660 -31.97 19.16582236
7/5/2009 13.79 1915.88 36902 -38.6 17.54894851
7/6/2009 9.399 1925.279 37052 -25.37 15.95914459
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