So do you believe in the 21 grams 'theory'?

[DrPizza]

Air in your lungs wouldn't matter, as you are "submerged" in air.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: electron

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Anubis
how much does that air in your lungs add to your weight?

Air weighs almost nothing, that's how you were able to breathe it in. If such a gas weighed anywhere near 21 grams, it sink to the floor and would not reach your nose, like pouring oil into a glass of water.

Uhm, wtf?? If how much of a gas weighed 21 grams? Your statement doesn't even begin to make sense without a volume. In fact air weighs about 1.1 kg/m^3 at sea leavel so 21 grams would be about 0.25 liters of air. However air in the lungs can't account for any weight loss (if it exists).

Never trust a "scientist" that uses the phrase "almost nothing" in his quantitative analysis. Such a "scientist" has almost nothing between his ears.

What are engineers then? Pseduo Scientists? Do you know how much of this world is based on the assuming that things are "negligible"

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: electron

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Anubis
how much does that air in your lungs add to your weight?

Air weighs almost nothing, that's how you were able to breathe it in. If such a gas weighed anywhere near 21 grams, it sink to the floor and would not reach your nose, like pouring oil into a glass of water.

Uhm, wtf?? If how much of a gas weighed 21 grams? Your statement doesn't even begin to make sense without a volume. In fact air weighs about 1.1 kg/m^3 at sea leavel so 21 grams would be about 0.25 liters of air. However air in the lungs can't account for any weight loss (if it exists).

Never trust a "scientist" that uses the phrase "almost nothing" in his quantitative analysis. Such a "scientist" has almost nothing between his ears.

What are engineers then? Pseduo Scientists? Do you know how much of this world is based on the assuming that things are "negligible"

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: electron

Originally posted by: Armitage

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Anubis
how much does that air in your lungs add to your weight?

Air weighs almost nothing, that's how you were able to breathe it in. If such a gas weighed anywhere near 21 grams, it sink to the floor and would not reach your nose, like pouring oil into a glass of water.

Uhm, wtf?? If how much of a gas weighed 21 grams? Your statement doesn't even begin to make sense without a volume. In fact air weighs about 1.1 kg/m^3 at sea leavel so 21 grams would be about 0.25 liters of air. However air in the lungs can't account for any weight loss (if it exists).

Never trust a "scientist" that uses the phrase "almost nothing" in his quantitative analysis. Such a "scientist" has almost nothing between his ears.

What are engineers then? Pseduo Scientists? Do you know how much of this world is based on the assuming that things are "negligible"

 

[Albatross]

What are engineers then? Pseduo Scientists? Do you know how much of this world is based on the assuming that things are "negligible"


echo! 😛

 

[Howard]

How is death measured? Brain activity halts? Heart stops pumping?

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: albatross
What are engineers then? Pseduo Scientists? Do you know how much of this world is based on the assuming that things are "negligible"


echo! 😛

LOL, wtf a triple post?

01/06/2006 11:43 AM
01/06/2006 1:35 PM
01/06/2006 1:36 PM

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Howard
How is death measured? Brain activity halts? Heart stops pumping?

Perhaps death is caused by extreme sudden weight loss, of 21 grams!!! 😱 😱 Until further research is conducted, I urge everyone to Diet with extreme caution.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Howard
How is death measured? Brain activity halts? Heart stops pumping?

Perhaps death is caused by extreme sudden weight loss, of 21 grams!!! 😱 😱 Until further research is conducted, I urge everyone to Diet with extreme caution.

hmmmm.. 😕😛

 

[Savij]

Considering it's a single experiment with 7 people conducted nearly 100 years ago with large weights and very high precision, I would have to call the results suspect.

My initial thought on the matter is to question the scale. Is it somehow possible that the orienation of the body could affect the weights? Did the blood pool somewhere in the body as the subject died? Could that minute change in the distribution of the weight affect his scale's reading?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Savij
Considering it's a single experiment with 7 people conducted nearly 100 years ago with large weights and very high precision, I would have to call the results suspect.

My initial thought on the matter is to question the scale. Is it somehow possible that the orienation of the body could affect the weights? Did the blood pool somewhere in the body as the subject died? Could that minute change in the distribution of the weight affect his scale's reading?

One thing that really made me go "hhhmmmmm" was when he reports that the experiment on Dogs yields no difference. He then explains it was expected, because Dogs don't have souls. That's a dead giveaway IMO as it's purely the view of Religion(with no confirmation even from the Bible for that matter) that Humans have souls and Dogs don't. Clearly this is an "experiment" meant to "confirm" a pre-conception.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Anubis
how much does that air in your lungs add to your weight?

Air weighs almost nothing, that's how you were able to breathe it in. If such a gas weighed anywhere near 21 grams, it sink to the floor and would not reach your nose, like pouring oil into a glass of water.

Lol, oil doesn't sink in water, it floats therefore you are contradicting your self.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Lol, oil doesn't sink in water, it floats therefore you are contradicting your self.

Get some oil and try it. Sinks to the bottom!

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

this is the most retarded idea ever. Assuming the hypothesis is that the 21 grams is the soul leaving, is that supposed to turn into energy or something? If so a nuclear reaction, which does not happen in a body, 21 grams converted into energy would be a rediculous amount of energy.

It is almost certain that chemical reactions in the body change upon death, not necessarily instantaneously, that may or may not convert solid/liquid substances into gasses. These gasses are no doubt under higher than atmospheric pressure, and sooner or later released form the body. There you can have a loss of mass by the body. Any reasonably scientific study would account for this by containing the body in a sealed container, which would have no change in mass.

 

[BrokenVisage]

so what was the conclusion on this matter?