So, do Kerry ever release his military records?

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Just curious... 😉

 

[Orsorum]

AFAIK he did.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Yup... this is how we found out that Dubbya had a higher IQ than Kerry. LOL... the Dems picked someone dumber than Bush. Go figger.

 

[Tab]

Anyone know where I can find them?

 

[PatboyX]

http://www.awolbush.com/kerry-vs-bush.asp

not a great source but seems to link to legit stuff.
google #2.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Yes he did. Twice.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

 

[Pabster]

No, he still hasn't released ALL of his records. And he never will.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

Honestly WTF are you trying to say.

If the UN's job was to keep Saddam's hands off of WMD they did their job.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

I'd comment on that but it would only distract from the original topic even more than we have already done.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

Honestly WTF are you trying to say.

If the UN's job was to keep Saddam's hands off of WMD they did their job.

Their job was to disarm Saddam. Supposedly Saddam destroyed all his WMDs in '91. The job was done back then already, yet the UN and pretty much everyone else, including Clinton and the Democrats, insisted Saddam still had WMDs.

So a lot of mistakes were made all along that bumbling path that turned into an invasion of Iraq. For those who want to blame Bush, don't forget all that came before and enabled him to do what he did. He couldn't have done it without their help.

That's WTF I'm trying to say. If and certain people weren't so fvcking blinded by their partisan ethic of hate and with the knee-jerk affliction to blame everything on Bush then I wouldn't have to explain it to them.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Yes he did. Twice.

My understanding from recent press is that he hadn't released all of them yet. He looks a lot better after the Botox, don't you think?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Thats for sure! Did your warrior hero ever get up the nerve to visit the troops? I guess that when he says he nhates war, he really means it.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

Honestly WTF are you trying to say.

If the UN's job was to keep Saddam's hands off of WMD they did their job.

Their job was to disarm Saddam. Supposedly Saddam destroyed all his WMDs in '91. The job was done back then already, yet the UN and pretty much everyone else, including Clinton and the Democrats, insisted Saddam still had WMDs.

So a lot of mistakes were made all along that bumbling path that turned into an invasion of Iraq. For those who want to blame Bush, don't forget all that came before and enabled him to do what he did. He couldn't have done it without their help.

That's WTF I'm trying to say. If and certain people weren't so fvcking blinded by their partisan ethic of hate and with the knee-jerk affliction to blame everything on Bush then I wouldn't have to explain it to them.

They are just sore, scared losers. Give them some peace.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Kerry only released the full set of records to the LA Times and Boston Globe (hmm, why just THOSE two papers?). They softballed the findings in a couple of lame articles, avoiding addressing any of the actual questions around his service.

If nothing's in his records of any incident, why not release them fully to the public for scrutiny? What's JK hiding?

Maybe those WMD's that the Dub said Hussein had!:laugh:

Are they stashed under his magic hat somewhere in Cambodia? :laugh:

Well one things for sure, they aren't in Iraq!

Bummer. Looks like the UN wasted 12+ years on that follie, eh?

Honestly WTF are you trying to say.

If the UN's job was to keep Saddam's hands off of WMD they did their job.

Their job was to disarm Saddam. Supposedly Saddam destroyed all his WMDs in '91. The job was done back then already, yet the UN and pretty much everyone else, including Clinton and the Democrats, insisted Saddam still had WMDs.

So a lot of mistakes were made all along that bumbling path that turned into an invasion of Iraq. For those who want to blame Bush, don't forget all that came before and enabled him to do what he did. He couldn't have done it without their help.

Or the help of the 9/11 terrorists who frightened Americans into supporting the Dub's ill conceived and ill advised Excellent Adventure in Iraq

That's WTF I'm trying to say. If and certain people weren't so fvcking blinded by their partisan ethic of hate and with the knee-jerk affliction to blame everything on Bush then I wouldn't have to explain it to them

You explain your own POV which seems to be very forgiving of the Dub even when it's clear that his decision wasn't in the best interest of the US and World as a whole. What don't you understand about people being pissed off at a Leader who either intentionally or unintentionally misled us into supporting such a folly of a war?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: outriding
Honestly WTF are you trying to say.

If the UN's job was to keep Saddam's hands off of WMD they did their job.

Their job was to disarm Saddam. Supposedly Saddam destroyed all his WMDs in '91. The job was done back then already, yet the UN and pretty much everyone else, including Clinton and the Democrats, insisted Saddam still had WMDs.

So a lot of mistakes were made all along that bumbling path that turned into an invasion of Iraq. For those who want to blame Bush, don't forget all that came before and enabled him to do what he did. He couldn't have done it without their help.

That's WTF I'm trying to say. If and certain people weren't so fvcking blinded by their partisan ethic of hate and with the knee-jerk affliction to blame everything on Bush then I wouldn't have to explain it to them.

This, my friends, is the very definition of Bush apologist, a pathetic display of blind partisan fluffery. The buck stops anywhere and everywhere except on Bush's doorstep.

 

[Bowfinger]

Enough of Sir Chicken's duhversion. Re. the OP, here is the Boston Globe article:

Kerry allows Navy release of military, medical records
Show numerous commendations

By Michael Kranish, Globe Staff | June 7, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Senator John F. Kerry, ending at least two years of refusal, has waived privacy restrictions and authorized the release of his full military and medical records.

The records, which the Navy Personnel Command provided to the Globe, are mostly a duplication of what Kerry released during his 2004 campaign for president, including numerous commendations from commanding officers who later criticized Kerry's Vietnam service.

The lack of any substantive new material about Kerry's military career in the documents raises the question of why Kerry refused for so long to waive privacy restrictions. An earlier release of the full record might have helped his campaign because it contains a number of reports lauding his service. Indeed, one of the first actions of the group that came to be known as Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was to call on Kerry to sign a privacy waiver and release all of his military and medical records.

But Kerry refused, even though it turned out that the records included commendations from some of the same veterans who were criticizing him.

On May 20, Kerry signed a document called Standard Form 180, authorizing the Navy to send an ''undeleted" copy of his ''complete military service record and medical record" to the Globe. Asked why he delayed signing the form for so long, Kerry said in a written response: ''The call for me to sign a 180 form came from the same partisan operatives who were lying about my record on a daily basis on the Web and in the right-wing media. Even though the media was discrediting them, they continued to lie. I felt strongly that we shouldn't kowtow to them and their attempts to drag their lies out."

Many of the records contain praise for Kerry's service. For example, the documents quote Kerry's former commanding officers as saying he is ''one of the finest young officers with whom I have served;" is ''the acknowledged leader of his peer group;" and is ''highly recommended for promotion."

Kerry's refusal to waive privacy restrictions dates back to at least May 2003, when the Globe asked in writing for Kerry to sign the Form 180. As questions were raised about various actions in Vietnam, the Kerry campaign gradually released documents last year, but had not authorized the release of the entire file until now.

In April 2004, Kerry said he had already released his military records. ''I've shown them, they're available for you to come and look at," Kerry said in a television interview. But when a reporter showed up at campaign headquarters, he was told that no new records would be released. That prompted a flood of Republican criticism, and the campaign responded by gradually releasing more military records on its website. Kerry then released his ''fitness reports" -- evaluations by commanding officers -- on April 21, 2004.

Two days later, the campaign allowed some reporters to view Kerry's medical record but did not allow copies to be made and did not post that information online.

By signing Form 180 now, Kerry may hope to achieve several goals: settle the question of whether there is an explosive document in the file; put pressure on critics to release their military records; and try to put to rest an issue that dogged his 2004 campaign and would probably come up again if he seeks the presidency in 2008.

The file does not provide new documents about various combat actions. It contains mostly a repetition of Kerry's citations for the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. For example, it does not include the combat ''after action reports" that detail what happened in some of the firefights in which Kerry participated. Those reports are available for public inspection at the Navy historical center in Washington and have already been widely disseminated.

John O'Neill, the leader of the Swift Boat veterans group and coauthor of the book ''Unfit for Command," said yesterday that he would be disappointed if Kerry's files do not contain new information. ''I would still have the same beliefs expressed in my book," he said.

O'Neill, who said he has already authorized the release of his records, has questioned a number of Kerry's combat actions involving the first Purple Heart, the Silver Star, and the Bronze Star.

For example, Kerry received his first Purple Heart for action on Dec. 2, 1968. Kerry told historian Douglas Brinkley that ''I never saw where the piece of shrapnel had come from." Kerry's critics have questioned whether the wound came from enemy fire, and his former commanding officer said the wound resembled a ''scratch." The file includes a previously reported reference to Kerry being treated for the wound and that he was awarded the Purple Heart, but it does not address the details of the combat that night. No after-action report for the incident has been found.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I must say I find it a little surprising there's nothing new in Senator Kerry's military records - IMO it was tactically unwise not to just release them a long time ago. I figured there must be some minor disciplinary action in there, or somthing of that ilk. Ah well - I guess that's just one of many questionable decisions made in the course of his campaign.

 

[imported_Condor]

I hate to dash cold water on your doggy style wet dream, but 99% of the comments written in the military contain the same boiler plate. The only time they ever do anything but glow is when the troop has really screwed up. He was still a "John Wayne" in battle and put his fellow soldiers at risk for his own glory. If he had stayed, he would have been fragged.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Condor
I hate to dash cold water on your doggy style wet dream, but 99% of the comments written in the military contain the same boiler plate. The only time they ever do anything but glow is when the troop has really screwed up. He was still a "John Wayne" in battle and put his fellow soldiers at risk for his own glory. If he had stayed, he would have been fragged.

replace kerry with bush in the same situation and your tune would change...

 

[Bowfinger]

Here's an guide from FindLaw providing copies of the records for both Bush and Kerry. I do not believe this includes the material Kerry recently released. Nonetheless, note the dramatic contrast between Bush's limp performance and Kerry's noteworthy one. Pretty sad that the Bush faithful so sheepishly lined up behind the Swift Boat Liars, perhaps to reinforce their own denial about Dub's shameful record.

Military Service Records of Bush and Jerry

Set aside a few minutes if you want to read the links there. Kerry has quite a list of commendations; it will take you a while.

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