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So, didj'a hear the one about the blonde and the World Bank?

Greenman said:
I've always enjoyed "I herd a guy say" reporting.
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If Trump hadn't come out on numerous occasions and confirmed the kind of reporting you're complaining about you might have a leg to stand on. But he did. Regularly. And it's still happening.

A very recent example is how he reportedly disparaged Haitians as having AIDS so they couldn't be allowed to stay in the country. At the time some argued that because the sourcing was anonymous that the story could not be trusted. Nearly unprompted Trump openly says the same thing now:

2017:

WH denies NYT report claiming Trump said Haitian immigrants ‘all have AIDS’


Today:

Trump slams Haitians attempting to enter U.S., says they 'probably have AIDS'


The inescapable truth is that most of the reporting about this kind of stuff was more or less accurate.
 
HomerJS said:
How many heinous things reported said/done by Trump turned out to be completely false?

You are defending the guy who stole money from cancer kids.
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I'm not defending Trump. I have no doubt he wanted his kid to head the world bank. That isn't related to my dislike and mistrust of hearsay reporting.
There was a time when undisclosed sources were accepted because reporters had a little integrity, that time has past. News is now a commodity to be marketed. Hearsay, rumor, omitted context, and outright fabrications are common. Spin is not only accepted, but expected.
 
Greenman said:
I'm not defending Trump. I have no doubt he wanted his kid to head the world bank. That isn't related to my dislike and mistrust of hearsay reporting.
There was a time when undisclosed sources were accepted because reporters had a little integrity, that time has past. News is now a commodity to be marketed. Hearsay, rumor, omitted context, and outright fabrications are common. Spin is not only accepted, but expected.
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All of those things are a huge problem in rightwing media. Do you have any credible evidence that Salon does these things, or that most other non nutjob right wing media does those things?
 
Greenman said:
I'm not defending Trump. I have no doubt he wanted his kid to head the world bank. That isn't related to my dislike and mistrust of hearsay reporting.
There was a time when undisclosed sources were accepted because reporters had a little integrity, that time has past. News is now a commodity to be marketed. Hearsay, rumor, omitted context, and outright fabrications are common. Spin is not only accepted, but expected.
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Right-wing rags and Faux Noise capture huge audience by abandoning integrity. Greenman and other conservatives respond by saying all mainstream journalism has no integrity.
 
dank69 said:
Right-wing rags and Faux Noise capture huge audience by abandoning integrity. Greenman and other conservatives respond by saying all mainstream journalism has no integrity.
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This sort of thing always reminds me of this very informative twitter thread about a guy who used to work for right wing media, and it's scary. Essentially he says right wing media is consciously partisan because they believe all media outlets work this way. It took him leaving and working for an actual news room to find out that mainstream journalists are actually trying to get the story right, even if they don't always succeed.

So basically conservatives act in bad faith because in their bubble the assumption is that everyone is just as unprincipled as they are. They are totally divorced from reality.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1324908316548493313
 
Greenman said:
I'm not defending Trump. I have no doubt he wanted his kid to head the world bank. That isn't related to my dislike and mistrust of hearsay reporting.
There was a time when undisclosed sources were accepted because reporters had a little integrity, that time has past. News is now a commodity to be marketed. Hearsay, rumor, omitted context, and outright fabrications are common. Spin is not only accepted, but expected.
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Wasn't deep throat an anonymous unauthorized source? If you recall one of the most famous and acceptable ones because there is soooo much circumstancial evidence that coorborated his account.
 
fskimospy said:
This sort of thing always reminds me of this very informative twitter thread about a guy who used to work for right wing media, and it's scary. Essentially he says right wing media is consciously partisan because they believe all media outlets work this way. It took him leaving and working for an actual news room to find out that mainstream journalists are actually trying to get the story right, even if they don't always succeed.

So basically conservatives act in bad faith because in their bubble the assumption is that everyone is just as unprincipled as they are. They are totally divorced from reality.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1324908316548493313
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"Yes, well, the other side HAS to be just as bad because if they aren't, that means we're evil and that CAN'T be right."
 
Viper1j said:
I would say they have the most credibility, because they can do it without fear of reprisal or retaliation.
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Retaliation or reprisal from Ivanka Trump? What is she going to do about it? Dress nicely?

Fear ? I think you're stretching and exaggerating just ....a ......bit.

Even her father wields no power now.
 
HomerJS said:
Maybe the 10th dumbest thing you've said. In case you haven't noticed Trump owns the Republican Party right now.
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The list of dumb things the shameless GQP will say is long.

The majority of the GQP must go along with Trump or most likely lose power. That's a lot of power.

It's a cult and Taj is in it, playing along by being a good mini Goebbels and sticking by the propaganda
 
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