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So, bought a 3930K . . . .

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Tested 4.1GHz @ 1.25v just over 2hrs and its solid, didn't crash once. Will run IBT tomorrow for 20 passes to verify, then start testing games.
 
Gryz said:
Congratulations.

But I am not really sure I understand that buy decision from a price/performance standpoint. The 3930K is 500 euros here, and a 3570K is 200 euros. That's 300 euros difference. I also expect that your 2011 motherboard is 50 euros/dollars more expensive than a 1155 motherboard.

So you spent $350 extra, to get 1 more frame/sec than me (3570K) ?
And that is with a Titan card. Any slower card would be more gpu-limited, and the different cpus might not even see that 1 frame difference anymore. I just don't get it.
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I think, you're missing the point. Not everything in life is measured from a "value" point of view. If I had extra cash, I would ditch my G2020 and upgrade to 3970X tomorrow. Same thing, you buy a pair of shoes for $1000. Depends what you like.

OP, congrats :biggrin:

AustinInDallas said:
intel is selling the 3930k for 160 to people that work in retail. Orders started on the 15th, so it takes a week or two to ship.

75% of these chips wont be used by the people that buy it, but sold on craigslist/ebay/amazon for profit
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I'd buy one for $350 🙂
 
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Metro LL is kind of a poor example. Whether the engien CAN use 6 core and whether it will use or even benefit from it is another matter. Metro is almost always going to be GPU bottlenecked.
 
gamegpu.ru does show fairly regularly that the 3930k/3970X show an advantage. Its not often much but sometimes its quite substantial. Games have changed a lot over the last year or so, when the chip was released very few showed any better scaling on 6 cores. Now we have a few games that show quite dramatically improved frame rates and many that show small but definite benefits.

When you take account of comparison to Haswell however the grand majority of that benefit is going to disappear in having similar performance but in less cores. I think the SB-E was a reasonable buy when it came out, over time its become increasingly better for gaming comparatively to the SB. However the march of the CPU continues and the hexa core is falling ever further behind, 2 generations of improvements are going to leave the 2011 socket mostly behind.
 
So, you got an lower OC, lower IPC, outdated mainboard, but 50% more cores .. I woulda waited for the haswell reviews to popup .. legit ones, before jumping that ship, but either way, you got a monster at most it's a tenth either way ..
 
BrightCandle said:
However the march of the CPU continues and the hexa core is falling ever further behind, 2 generations of improvements are going to leave the 2011 socket mostly behind.
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In gaming, not so much, especially judging by current released games - I don't think poky 1.6GHz cores in the next gen consoles and the subsequent ports to PC will push this 3930K much either.

Anyway, IBT passed with 20 passes on High. Running through some memory tests, then will play a few hours of Last Light as a final test.
 
cytg111 said:
So, you got an lower OC, lower IPC, outdated mainboard, but 50% more cores .. I woulda waited for the haswell reviews to popup .. legit ones, before jumping that ship, but either way, you got a monster at most it's a tenth either way ..
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This Asrock Extreme 6 isn't exactly outdated - 5 SATA 3, 4 SATA 2, 4 USB 3 on the back and 2 on the front, and 4 USB 2 on the back, with 2 on the front plus piles of internal space. Ivy Bridge was an incremental tweak and Haswell isn't looking like much more either. Besides, this system is 100% gaming. I'd take 6 Sandy Bridge cores at 4.1GHz any day over 4 Haswell cores at 4.5GHz, plus I can really shove more volts through this chip and clock it even further if required.
 
escrow4 said:
In gaming, not so much, especially judging by current released games - I don't think poky 1.6GHz cores in the next gen consoles and the subsequent ports to PC will push this 3930K much either.

Anyway, IBT passed with 20 passes on High. Running through some memory tests, then will play a few hours of Last Light as a final test.
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And while all other parts of that equation is not equal, 8 of those 1.6GHz cores might just fit into 2 or 3 haswell cores, leaving 1-2 doing nothing(in comparison).
 
Even if I had the money I wouldn't get a 3930K. I don't see any current game benefitting from a hexacore over a 4C/8T 3770k, at least not even nearly enough to justify double the cost.
 
HIC memtest is so demented - flung up RAM errors that a few passes of Memtest didn't. So 2 hrs later after swapping channels, testing single sticks, I just loosened the timings to 10-10-10-24 from 9-9-9-24 and BOOM, 100% stable.
 
escrow4 said:
HIC memtest is so demented - flung up RAM errors that a few passes of Memtest didn't. So 2 hrs later after swapping channels, testing single sticks, I just loosened the timings to 10-10-10-24 from 9-9-9-24 and BOOM, 100% stable.
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Was 9-9-9-24 in spec? If so RMA those shits. Otherwise try uping vdimm by like .02 and see if that does it at 9-9-9-24.
 
Considering the past, how long 1366 and 2011 lasted I'm tempted to wait for haswell-e (yes I know will be 1.5-2 years) and then have a very long lived platform. On the other hand I'm on 1156 since 3 years...and currently no issue with CPU, actually have some OC head room.
 
Bryf50 said:
Was 9-9-9-24 in spec? If so RMA those shits. Otherwise try uping vdimm by like .02 and see if that does it at 9-9-9-24.
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Finished 3 days of testing and fiddling and building. Not in the mood for RMA'ing. Looking online I've set VCSSA and VTT to 1.125v fixed (apparently going too far can degrade the CPU heavily), and the CPU is @ 1.25v 4.1GHz stable, for anyone interested. Going to start some games now. Last Light hitting 57FPS average at 1920x1200 with this Titan, everything maxed out except for SSAA. OC'd Titan a bit according to a HardOCP overclocking guide as well.

I'll be upgrading when Skylake E and DDR4 looks like at this rate. Everything is just slick.
 
The article shows 1 fps difference between 3930 and 3570. If someone needs 6 cores for work, or has disposable money to spend on 39xx, those are good reasons to get one. Paying double to get extra 1fps right now and hoping that it's still going to keep up with whatever Intel will release two years in the future is not a good one.
 
I am wondering as well if I should go hex. My 2600k is still kicking, but I have a feeling that this gen games may utilized more cores. Please someone convince me lol
 
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