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So ATOT was just a trend setter...

I would if I could. I lost my mom 15 years ago to cancer. It saddens me knowing that i'm almost older than her now.
 
Mayne said:
I would if I could. I lost my mom 15 years ago to cancer. It saddens me knowing that i'm almost older than her now.
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Don't you live in your sisters closet rationing out your daily supply of Natty Light? If so...you're way ahead of these Millennials.

Sorry to hear about your Mom.
 
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Don't you live in your sisters closet rationing out your daily supply of Natty Light? If so...you're way ahead of these Millennials.

Sorry to hear about your Mom.
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I look after the family I have. That means doing shit that goes unappreciated. yeah i miss my Mom.
 
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Aren't they pretty much the same? And I'm not sure if it matters...it still remains a fact that ATOT members set this trend decades ago.
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Not really. And with that contract he has their house is paid off I would imagine at the minimum and he likes his parents I suppose.

It's not your typical leaching off the parents thing.

The wife and I currently take care of my Grandmother and her Mother, more or less.

Fortunately, for the most part, they planned ahead somewhat, not like we have trust funds.
 
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MongGrel said:
Not really. And with that contract he has their house is paid off I would imagine at the minimum and he likes his parents I suppose.

It's not your typical leaching off the parents thing.

The wife and I currently take care of my Grandmother and her Mother, more or less.

Fortunately, for the most part, they planned ahead somewhat, not like we have trust funds.
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The story was not about him, but rather the trend for people 18-34 to live with their parents...particularly males.
 
PricklyPete said:
The story was not about him, but rather the trend for people 18-34 to live with their parents...particularly males.
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He seemed to be the focus of it off the bat, it's nothing new really.

I've pretty much been on my own since 18 as far as supporting myself.

Mom died in 1980 in a car crash, I'm about 20 years older than she was now, not that it is relevant. I wouldn't be living in her basement anyways.

The 50's Happy Days type of household was the one that was supposed to be the ideal American Dream notion. Prior to that is was pretty typical to have even younger children live on relatives farms nearby for general labor on the farm etc, as living was a hard issue in general.

The continued erosion of the Middle Class has set things backwards again.
 
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I see this trend with almost every young engineer we hire these days. It is a normal thing to move back in with mom and dad until marriage. And marriage seems to be something done at a much later age now as well. Early/mid 30's seems to be about the new normal.

I guess I can see the benefit. Sock away a bunch of cash for a few years until it is time to move out and start a family. Still, I hope my kids aren't planning on this!
 
PricklyPete said:
Aren't they pretty much the same? And I'm not sure if it matters...it still remains a fact that ATOT members set this trend decades ago.
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Hipsters are a subculture characterized chiefly by the categorical rejection of anything that material, pop, or mainstream culture tells them to value. They then value the opposite thing as an expression of "irony".

Obvious example: The craft/microbrew beer trend is materialistic and pop culture. Hipsters drink PBR as an "ironic" beer.

Oh, nice digital camera you got there. Take a look at this piece of shit Seagull TLR that only takes shitty pictures and costs a fortune per frame. Isn't it awesome?

Pop culture will often follow hipster trends, which is where the cliché about hipsters "liked it before it was cool" comes from.
 
ControlD said:
I see this trend with almost every young engineer we hire these days. It is a normal thing to move back in with mom and dad until marriage. And marriage seems to be something done at a much later age now as well. Early/mid 30's seems to be about the new normal.

I guess I can see the benefit. Sock away a bunch of cash for a few years until it is time to move out and start a family. Still, I hope my kids aren't planning on this!
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I even saw some highly paid single guys doing it in the mid 80's.

The foreman at the tool shop was only around 30, and he had a room at his brothers huge house not far away.

The place was big enough he probably had a wing of the house to himself.

And yeah, Hipsters are different critters.
 
My mom is baby boomer and she moved in to live with her mom just recently. My grandma has a nice house in Wisconsin, about 25 feet from Lake Michigan. Its wonderful there.
 
PricklyPete said:
Aren't they pretty much the same? And I'm not sure if it matters...it still remains a fact that ATOT members set this trend decades ago.
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PricklyPete said:
The story was not about him, but rather the trend for people 18-34 to live with their parents...particularly males.
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Italy has been setting this trend for about 20 years now. Which was always the general fashion rule--The US is always at least a decade? (maybe just 3 years) behind Europe--but that habit seems to be spilling over into other ways of life.

No, I'm not making it up

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/52-italian-men-live-mothers-report-article-1.1519879

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5761647/ns/world_news/t/what-keeping-italian-men-home/

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/CP189.pdf

I was living over there in 2001-2002. One of my language teachers would make this joke about how that had been a problem in Italy over recent years (so by 2001, it was already a growing, established cultural thing).

"These Italian men," she would say, "they just really like living with mom," as she shrugs her shoulders and pouts in front of a class of young, non-Italian male students. 😉
 
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Was in jury duty selection last week and pretty much everyone below 30 lived with their parents...

"So many people know someone who has moved back in with their parents. Any stigma that used to exist isn't there anymore," says Kim Parker, director of social trends research at Pew.
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LOL no
 
Ns1 said:
Was in jury duty selection last week and pretty much everyone below 30 lived with their parents...



LOL no
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well, I would say that with it hitting 25% or more and it keeps growing, that stigma has got to be less and probably will disappear. Think about it: the pool of people that would be able to use that against someone is disappearing. Can't stigmatize yourself, can you? (unless you are Mayne, I guess).
 
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well, I would say that with it hitting 25% or more and it keeps growing, that stigma has got to be less and probably will disappear. Think about it: the pool of people that would be able to use that against someone is disappearing. Can't stigmatize yourself, can you? (unless you are Mayne, I guess).
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I think we're in agreement - there's only no stigma if you yourself are a 30 year old millennial living at home with your parents.

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Realistically though, I'm probably just bitter cuz my friends who are living at home with their parents all have new cars and go on vacations all the time.

pride or toys, it's such a hard decision.
 
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