So are there any downsides to keeping DST permanent year round?

[Zeze]

I've been wishing this for the longest time. More sun while we are awake (for the majority of us).

I hate it when it's night at 4:30pm in US.

 

[jlee]

I don't care about what time it gets dark...I'd just rather not deal with changing clocks.

Fortunately, Arizona doesn't.

 

[Anubis]

no there are not

to compromise we should just move it 30 minutes and leave it there

 

[Zeze]

no there are not

to compromise we should just move it 30 minutes and leave it there

I wouldn't mind if it was 90 mins ahead. I don't care if it's dark in the morning. I love it the feeling of late sun when you get out of work or enjoying the rest of the evening.

I'm also terribly envious of Germans. They naturally get LONG amount of day time thanks to their location. My friend said they get sun til like 10:30PM.. everyone enjoying the beautiful summer evening drinking outdoors.

 

[Ken g6]

When school starts at the same time every day of the school year, some little kids have to wait for the school bus in the dark. That's the reason I was always told, anyway.

 

[Bignate603]

I'm also terribly envious of Germans. They naturally get LONG amount of day time thanks to their location. My friend said they get sun til like 10:30PM.. everyone enjoying the beautiful summer evening drinking outdoors.

That only happens during their summer. Germany is at a relatively high latitude. They'll get really long days during the summer but really short days during the winter. If you want that you can easily find it by moving into the northern states or Canada.

 

[Zeze]

That only happens during their summer. Germany is at a relatively high latitude. They'll get really long days during the summer but really short days during the winter. If you want that you can easily find it by moving into the northern states or Canada.

Germany gets shorter day than New England / NYC? Our sun fucking sets at 4:15pm at winter. Ridiculous.

 

[Bignate603]

Germany gets shorter day than New England / NYC? Our sun fucking sets at 4:15pm at winter. Ridiculous.

Look at a map. The southern part of Germany lines up with Maine. The higher north you go the longer the days are during the summer and the shorter they are during the winter. There's no place in the world that gets extra long days all year round.

 

[Zeze]

Look at a map. The southern part of Germany lines up with Maine. The higher north you go the longer the days are during the summer and the shorter they are during the winter. There's no place in the world that gets extra long days all year round.

What's their earliest sunset then?

 

[Bignate603]

What's their earliest sunset then?

Is it really so hard to use google?

 

[Meghan54]

Is it really so hard to use google?

For some it is, Bignate. You know as well as I do that a lot would rather others do the work.....as you have just seen.

 

[Rubycon]

I'm for abolishing time zones and keeping time precise. The photoperiod cannot be controlled so just get used to it. :biggrin:

 

[Imp]

Seriously. I LOVE DST and for most of my life, I thought DST was standard time, and vice versa because standard made no sense.

 

[Baked]

China doesn't use DST.

 

[Rubycon]

People that enjoy long days have an obvious choice. Find a place you like in the northern hemisphere as well as the southern hemisphere and switch every 180 days. :biggrin:

 

[fatpat268]

People that enjoy long days have an obvious choice. Find a place you like in the northern hemisphere as well as the southern hemisphere and switch every 180 days. :biggrin:

And if you REALLY like daytime, you could choose to live in the polar regions in their respective summertimes. :awe:

 

[Squisher]

Start on the east coast, drive west until nightfall, fly back to the east coast, and enjoy the longest days of all.

 

[sdifox]

I hate time change. Just pick one spot and stay on it.

 

[Rubycon]

And if you REALLY like daytime, you could choose to live in the polar regions in their respective summertimes. :awe:

Higher than the 60th parallel affords plenty of daylight in the summer months. If you need more get some full spectrum lamps hehe! :biggrin:

 

[Leros]

I wouldn't mind if it was 90 mins ahead. I don't care if it's dark in the morning. I love it the feeling of late sun when you get out of work or enjoying the rest of the evening.

I agree, there is nothing worse than leaving work and its already dark out. I don't mind going to work in the dark either. In fact, I prefer it.

I'm also terribly envious of Germans. They naturally get LONG amount of day time thanks to their location. My friend said they get sun til like 10:30PM.. everyone enjoying the beautiful summer evening drinking outdoors.

I spent a summer in Seattle. The sun would rise at about 5am and set at like 10pm. It was crazy. The downside is they get very little light in winter.

 

[Muse]

It wouldn't be DST if it were year round, it would defeat the purpose.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I definitely think they need to abolish this system, it serves absolutely no purpose. Bush was stupid for changing it, while he was there he should have just removed it instead. It dates all the way back to like WW1 or something like that. I forget the exact reasoning, but I know it's something that no longer applies now.

 

[Leros]

As usual, its New Zealand's fault:

Modern DST was first proposed by the New Zealand entomologist George Vernon Hudson, whose shift-work job gave him leisure time to collect insects, and led him to value after-hours daylight.[2] In 1895 he presented a paper to the Wellington Philosophical Society proposing a two-hour daylight-saving shift,[20] and after considerable interest was expressed in Christchurch, New Zealand he followed up in an 1898 paper.[21] Many publications incorrectly credit DST's proposal to the prominent English builder and outdoorsman William Willett,[22] who independently conceived DST in 1905 during a pre-breakfast ride, when he observed with dismay how many Londoners slept through a large part of a summer's day.[23] An avid golfer, he also disliked cutting short his round at dusk.[24] His solution was to advance the clock during the summer months, a proposal he published two years later.[25] The proposal was taken up by the Liberal Member of Parliament (MP) Robert Pearce, who introduced the first Daylight Saving Bill to the House of Commons on 12 February 1908.[26] A select committee was set up to examine the issue, but Pearce's bill did not become law, and several other bills failed in the following years. Willett lobbied for the proposal in the UK until his death in 1915.

Starting on 30 April 1916, Germany and its World War I allies were the first to use DST (German: Sommerzeit) as a way to conserve coal during wartime. Britain, most of its allies, and many European neutrals soon followed suit. Russia and a few other countries waited until the next year and the United States adopted it in 1918. Since then, the world has seen many enactments, adjustments, and repeals.[27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Origin

 

[DrPizza]

I wouldn't mind if it was 90 mins ahead. I don't care if it's dark in the morning. I love it the feeling of late sun when you get out of work or enjoying the rest of the evening.

I'm also terribly envious of Germans. They naturally get LONG amount of day time thanks to their location. My friend said they get sun til like 10:30PM.. everyone enjoying the beautiful summer evening drinking outdoors.

Over the course of the year, they average 12 hours of daylight each day. Just like everywhere else on Earth.

I definitely think they need to abolish this system, it serves absolutely no purpose. Bush was stupid for changing it, while he was there he should have just removed it instead. It dates all the way back to like WW1 or something like that. I forget the exact reasoning, but I know it's something that no longer applies now.

Bah, I *love* daylight savings time. I love being home and having more hours of daylight. It wouldn't bother me at all if we skipped daylight savings time and just decided to have school from 7am to 2pm; but you and I know that psychologically, people won't be able to handle that. It won't be long... pretty soon, I won't get to enjoy any daylight at all. In to work in the dark, and back home after dark.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Well they could keep it where there's still light after work, as yes I would like that better too, but it should stay that way all year round. It's just a pain readjusting to the change twice a year.