So about closing Guantanamo....Nahh let's remodel instead

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NoStateofMind

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WASHINGTON (AP) - As much as $170 million is needed to improve facilities for the troops stationed at the Guantanamo Bay detention center that President Barack Obama has marked for extinction, the top U.S. commander in South and Central America said Wednesday.

The head of U.S. Southern Command, Gen. John Kelly, told the House Armed Services Committee that upgrades to buildings including barracks and the dining hall for the American personnel assigned to the joint task force at the U.S. base in Cuba are badly needed. He described the living conditions at Guantanamo as not quite squalor but "pretty questionable."

"We need to take care of our troops," Kelly said.

Kelly also said, though, that the detainees are living in humane conditions. He attributed a hunger strike that has grown to 25 detainees to frustration among prisoners over the failure to close Guantanamo. The hunger strike has become the largest and most sustained protest at Guantanamo in several years.

Obama had pledged to shutter the prison at Guantanamo soon after taking office but Congress opposed it, passing a law that prohibits the government from transferring Guantanamo prisoners to U.S. soil and requiring security guarantees before they can be sent elsewhere in the world.


Nope not closing! It's congress that's holding back the president apparently? That's what I read anyways. How true that statement is, is left to you. Yeah so instead of that let's go ahead and spend another $170 million on improvements.

If I didn't know any better I would suspect politicians of being outright liars. Thankfully that doesn't happen......
 

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The fail is extraordinary.

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If they don't add any more prisoners maybe it will close in 80 years or so when the last prisoner dies.
 
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Why are people surprised by this? obama has been one of the biggest pieces of shit in regards to civil liberties, he did vote for the Patriot Act and NDAA. I cant believe people were foolish enough to trust him when he said he was going to shut it down. Idiots.
 
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Gitmo itself was never going to close. The prisoners were supposed to get all shipped out and the prisons closed.

Except Congress took a shit on the presidents bill and actually removed all funding to get it done. So legally they are supposed to be sent out, but they don't have the money to do so.
 

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Guantanamo existed before there was a prison built there. It's the only US base on the island of Cuba and serves an important naval function. It's also a hardship tour for US forces: they don't get to bring their families with them when they go there. It's a year on their own.
 

NoStateofMind

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If they don't add any more prisoners maybe it will close in 80 years or so when the last prisoner dies.

You know all this may be factual information EDIT: but nothing
 
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marincounty

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Did you read the rest of the article?
"The ACLU said it would continue to monitor how the government applied Section 215 and would remain ready to defend any individual, business or organization receiving demands for information under the provision.

The group also said it is continuing its legal fight against a more frequently used provision of the Patriot Act that authorizes national security letters. Such letters allow the executive branch of government to obtain records about people in terrorism and espionage investigations without a judge’s approval or a grand jury subpoena."
Is their a right wing organization that is also fighting the govt over the patriot act?
 

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Yeh, i heard about this on NPR- pretty odd we think we still need to hide behind such a stupid pretext.

Maybe release them back to their home country and bug-spatt them with a drone hugging their terrorist brothers? Doesn't that sound like a force multiplier? (-:
 

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Yeh, i heard about this on NPR- pretty odd we think we still need to hide behind such a stupid pretext.

Maybe release them back to their home country and bug-spatt them with a drone hugging their terrorist brothers? Doesn't that sound like a force multiplier? (-:

Most of the people currently held without charges are being held because their own countries won't take them back.
 
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The fail is extraordinary.

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If they don't add any more prisoners maybe it will close in 80 years or so when the last prisoner dies.

It is also sad that it costs 3,000,000/86=$34884/per person in a US Federal prison. WTF!
 

Orignal Earl

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They must be doing something right there
They managed to make 7 radical Islamist finally give up on their religion and kill themselves
Choosing hell for eternity over the camp
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