So..234 young women were kidnapped by Islamic militants.

[Newell Steamer]

The Islamic militants and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies, and I saw one of the babies, and then the baby looked at me.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Shut up. You're an idiot who never understands what's actually been said.

See, nothing but anger and insults, post after post after post.

Seriously, it's not good for either your physical or mental health and it adds nothing to discussion.

 

[mrjminer]

The Islamic militants and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies, and I saw one of the babies, and then the baby looked at me.

No Ralphing Allowed.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Right now, out there, there is millions of Muslims sitting there arguing about what that book says
Same with Christians and Jews and what have you




Ya, that's not true
Great Gramma Jewish lady would probably prefer being around Muslims then Christians
Protestants would of said Catholics a hundred years ago

I have Christian nieces that go to the deepest darkest places in Africa, Middle East, and live in tiny villages surrounded by all these supposedly violent animals
Your going to have a hard time getting me to take your word for this

you're pathetic with your delusional hate of Christian and Jews

 

[Orignal Earl]

you're pathetic with your delusional hate of Christian and Jews

Oh joy..another fanatic
I suppose that's why you guys can so easily think these crazy things, your brains are wired the same way

 

[mrjminer]

Oh joy..another fanatic
I suppose that's why you guys can so easily think these crazy things, your brains are wired the same way

Coming from the guy sitting on diagrams of Islamic sects, claiming Muslim soldiers are trying to rescue the girls by taking them as slaves to fuck them, criticizing Jedi's inability to form complete sentences when he can barely do so himself, claiming Americans don't know what entails freedom of religion, all while claiming he isn't Islam, but defends it while simultaneously taking potshots at other religions, and deflecting criticism and facts with claims that others are fanatics while summarily generalizaing that everyone else is crazy.

Just in this thread.

But, please, don't let this stop you, though. I haven't quite had my fill of WTF hilarity for the day.

 

[shira]

Freedom of religion does not equal pretending that all religions are morally or practically equal. Recognizing that one particular religion is on balance a force for evil does not equal pretending that all people embracing that religion are evil.

If you want to argue that in the modern world Muslims are responsible for a large proportion of the religion-based violence, I agree with you. But the implied conclusion - that the religion itself is the proximal cause of the violence I disagree.

You need to remember that the bulk of the world's Christians and Jews now live in progressive democratic states with a history of respect human rights and tolerance for diversity, a commitment to the rule of law, and strong institutions; whereas the bulk of the word's Muslims live in conservative, despotic states with essentially no history of respect for human rights or tolerance, and very weak institutions. So why would you be surprised that a product of those societies is the violence you see perpetrated by those repressed by those societies?

What I'm saying is that it's the nature of the societies most Muslims live in - and not the religion itself - that is the proximal cause of the violence.

 

[mrjminer]

If you want to argue that in the modern world Muslims are responsible for a large proportion of the religion-based violence, I agree with you. But the implied conclusion - that the religion itself is the proximal cause of the violence I disagree.

You need to remember that the bulk of the world's Christians and Jews now live in progressive democratic states with a history of respect human rights and tolerance for diversity, a commitment to the rule of law, and strong institutions; whereas the bulk of the word's Muslims live in conservative, despotic states with essentially no history of respect for human rights or tolerance, and very weak institutions. So why would you be surprised that a product of those societies is the violence you see perpetrated by those repressed by those societies?

What I'm saying is that it's the nature of the societies most Muslims live in - and not the religion itself - that is the proximal cause of the violence.

You have a point, but it falls apart with the fact that the societies themselves exist through Islam, almost exclusively so, if not entirely so. Basically, it's like saying Islam is fine as a religion, so long as it is integrated with non-Islamic beliefs in order to inhibit the religion, or, at least, alter the lens through which the followers interpret the religion.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree that most Muslims integrated into other societies are more representative of what is typically claimed of Islam, rather than the reality of the Islamic population when factoring in societies rooted in the religion.

It's a good argument against theocracy, just not a good one for a religion :sneaky:

I wonder if there's ever been a society that has not been violent under theocratic (or pretty-damn-close-to-theocratic) rule. None that I can think of, at least.

 

[Zaap]

See, nothing but anger and insults, post after post after post.

Seriously, it's not good for either your physical or mental health and it adds nothing to discussion.

Stop whining. Pointing out that you never know what's been said isn't anger, its just pointing out a fact. Work on your grasp of what's discussed rather than always trying to butt in to something you didn't understand with a dumb slam.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Stop whining. Pointing out that you never know what's been said isn't anger, its just pointing out a fact. Work on your grasp of what's discussed rather than always trying to butt in to something you didn't understand with a dumb slam.

Still can't stop with the insults. Sad.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Coming from the guy sitting on diagrams of Islamic sects

Sitting on? I googled that in 2 seconds

claiming Muslim soldiers are trying to rescue the girls by taking them as slaves to fuck them,

Don't know where you got that from

criticizing Jedi's inability to form complete sentences when he can barely do so himself,

I'm not the guy claiming to be an expert on language, and have explained my typing skills a thousand times over

claiming Americans don't know what entails freedom of religion,

I point out individuals who are wrong, your inserting Americans

all while claiming he isn't Islam, but defends it while simultaneously taking potshots at other religions, and deflecting criticism and facts with claims that others are fanatics while summarily generalizaing that everyone else is crazy.

I'm not a Muslim

http://postimg.org/image/v74ofl6qr/

Best I can do, can't get the img to work
Some Christmas for you

I don't want to post anything new because a member here issued death threats against anyone who defends Islam and their families
My pic ok but not family


I can't explain why some people need to believe crazy things in any other way
Some guys on the internet are trying to tell me that everybody I know who is Muslim really is playing an end game of killing me
The last example the dude even quotes me talking about my family and tells me I hate them

I back up everything I say with links, they go on some feelings?
If you can point out anything I post about Muslims that is not based in fact and links, please do

Just in this thread.

But, please, don't let this stop you, though. I haven't quite had my fill of WTF hilarity for the day.

We're good then

 

[norseamd]

rolling rolling rolling

keep this shit on rolling

rollllllllll onnnnnnnnnn

 

[mrjminer]

Sitting on? I googled that in 2 seconds


Don't know where you got that from



I'm not the guy claiming to be an expert on language, and have explained my typing skills a thousand times over



I point out individuals who are wrong, your inserting Americans



I'm not a Muslim

Some Christmas for you


I can't explain why some people need to believe crazy things in any other way
Some guys on the internet are trying to tell me that everybody I know who is Muslim really is playing an end game of killing me
The last example the dude even quotes me talking about my relatives and tells me I hate them

I back up everything I say with links, they go on some feelings?
If you can point out anything I post about Muslims that is not based in fact and links, please do



We're good then

If that's Islam, then why were these Muslim girls in a school in the first place?
Why would Muslim soldiers be trying to rescue them?
I might have misinterpreted what you meant here; it seems you meant the other soldiers, not the Boko Harem dudes

I know we have had this discussion several times before, but for some reason you keep push this belief of yours

Lot's of Christians here on this board, they do fine without me
I was born and raised Catholic, most of my family is Christian
I'm probably a Deist now, I don't know doesn't matter
If was Atheist I'd still defend freedom of religion

no no
Boko Haram is a terrorist organization, and don't want freedom of religion
I see now that you have no idea what freedom of religion is and means

Here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion#United_States

No wonder these things spook you

werepossum
Location: Chattanooga, TN

But yes, it's fine. Proceed with the other hilarious individuals in this thread.

 

[MongGrel]

rolling rolling rolling

keep this shit on rolling

rollllllllll onnnnnnnnnn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdR6MN2jKYs

 

[Hugo Drax]

Why is it our job to rescue them. Last I heard other UN members had special forces, let the French and the Germans step up and do it.

Everyone expects us to bail the world out.

 

[Orignal Earl]

But yes, it's fine. Proceed with the other hilarious individuals in this thread.

You missed the death threat edit and pic link

I can't see the problem with my quotes
If all Muslims follow the horrible things these guys say they do, how can there be Muslim school girls and Muslims trying to rescue them?
A bunch of my posts trying to explain I'm not a Muslim is coming off to you as I'm Muslim?

edit- You agree with possum that the terror org is fighting for freedom of religion?
And someone trying to correct them is an attack against Americans?

 

[mrjminer]

You missed the death threat edit and pic link

I can't see the problem with my quotes
If all Muslims follow the horrible things these guys say they do, how can there be Muslim school girls and Muslims trying to rescue them?
A bunch of my posts trying to explain I'm not a Muslim is coming off to you as I'm Muslim?

No, I don't doubt that you aren't a Muslim. I don't think anyone on these boards has a problem stating what religion they are, in your case Deist. You just give the impression of a stereotypical person of xxxxxx religion (in this case, Islam) by defending its beliefs while using the negatives of other religions as support and largely ignoring valid criticisms of the religion.

I think it's funny.

I doubt that anyone here believes ALL Muslims are "bad" or "crazy" (OK, maybe some of the religious may, but the same could be said the other way around), but it always gets generalized by those making the argument that they are bad and results in an eventual label of "all" Muslims for simplicity sake; or gets generalized by those they are arguing against to have included "all" Muslims. The reality is, however, that a lot of Muslims are crazy from the perspective of anyone living in a free society outside of the stone age.

For instance, stoning people or lashing them. Shit like that used to happen, but not anymore. Or views on women, which is at least, in part, introduced by this article. To probably any non-Islamic society, things like this immediately destroy any credibility the religion has, because we largely moved past physical retribution for crimes, and don't do things like stone women for getting gang-raped. Even with slavery in the US, even though it was a common practice, people went to war for it to stop because it started to be recognized that it was pretty fucked up.

The real difference is that, on one hand, you have people who have "evolved" from what we perceive (and rightfully so) as ancient and/or barbaric, whereas on the other hand, you have a significant portion of a religion that refuses to advance from the ancient into modern times. Sort of like how Catholics/Christians would be if the Crusades were still going on. In other words, we change and adapt our views or confine them in a manner that is in-line with our various societal advancements, whereas a lot of Muslims refuse to do so. The likelihood of you convincing anyone otherwise is practically zero, because propaganda and best intentions never trump fact.

 

[MongGrel]

But, please, don't let this stop you, though. I haven't quite had my fill of WTF hilarity for the day.

:thumbsup:

 

[RampantAndroid]

Muslim school girls

Fern addressed that already...a few pages ago.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I doubt that anyone here believes ALL Muslims are "bad" or "crazy" (OK, maybe some of the religious may, but the same could be said the other way around), but it always gets generalized by those making the argument that they are bad and results in an eventual label of "all" Muslims for simplicity sake; or gets generalized by those they are arguing against to have included "all" Muslims. The reality is, however, that a lot of Muslims are crazy from the perspective of anyone living in a free society outside of the stone age.

I disagree, there is defiantly a group of posters here that want to paint all Muslims as one
For example this is in one of their profiles peonyu

This has been going on for years, after all the Muslim posters left, I just kind of feel into this
I can see all my replying to these guys mostly by myself as fanatical too, I'm pretty screwed in that regard.

I like everything else about your post

Fern addressed that already...a few pages ago.

And a few posts later Victorian Gray addressed him that the girls were both Christian and Muslim

 

[Jaskalas]

Regarding the stereotypical hate fest on Muslims...

The ultimate means of healing the wounds of September 11th, is for a media campaign to follow an actual campaign in Muslim countries to bring power to righteous men who use their power to bring justice to criminals and terrorists. Men who restore peace and order to the land.

The American people need to know that such men even exist. I do not think I can point to a single one. My ignorance is not unique, it is epidemic. In our minds, Muslim = September 11th. It equals those reaping death and destruction across the globe. Those whom we have fought and died against in modern wars. Our knowledge and stories are filled with horrors. We have no positive counter balance.

A positive message is absolutely critical to sow anything short of hatred.

We need to see men of power, on the other side of the fence, who are our friends and not our enemy. Leaders who fight for peace. A Muslim equivalence to the Pope is sorely needed. A well-known public face to condemn acts of violence and denounce all those who stray. To carry the message that no true Muslim is our enemy.

Such things need to exist, and we need media to deliver them to us.

For our part we need to seek them out and lend them our strength. To help them achieve such lofty goals and to build stronger bonds of fellowship. This is not going to passively happen, it must be our campaign. Our sorely needed and much belated response to terrorism.

If our only response is to cross the globe and kill men, women, and children. Then the terrorists have won. We can do better, we must do better. Why should we fail this test and see our children die to future violence? We are only going to win the day by working together.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

you're pathetic with your delusional hate of Christian and Jews

You missed the point, us Jews prefer Muslims over Christians regarding faith, it's not a big secret to anyone who isn't a self deluded worshiper of Paul.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Regarding the stereotypical hate fest on Muslims...

The ultimate means of healing the wounds of September 11th, is for a media campaign to follow an actual campaign in Muslim countries to bring power to righteous men who use their power to bring justice to criminals and terrorists. Men who restore peace and order to the land.

The American people need to know that such men even exist. I do not think I can point to a single one. My ignorance is not unique, it is epidemic. In our minds, Muslim = September 11th. It equals those reaping death and destruction across the globe. Those whom we have fought and died against in modern wars. Our knowledge and stories are filled with horrors. We have no positive counter balance.

A positive message is absolutely critical to sow anything short of hatred.

We need to see men of power, on the other side of the fence, who are our friends and not our enemy. Leaders who fight for peace. A Muslim equivalence to the Pope is sorely needed. A well-known public face to condemn acts of violence and denounce all those who stray. To carry the message that no true Muslim is our enemy.

Such things need to exist, and we need media to deliver them to us.

For our part we need to seek them out and lend them our strength. To help them achieve such lofty goals and to build stronger bonds of fellowship. This is not going to passively happen, it must be our campaign. Our sorely needed and much belated response to terrorism.

If our only response is to cross the globe and kill men, women, and children. Then the terrorists have won. We can do better, we must do better. Why should we fail this test and see our children die to future violence? We are only going to win the day by working together.

I disagree, i have forgotten the terror attacks but this happened a few days ago.

There is no other solution than to cleanse the earth from these groups and if we give resources and help to the governments that actively trying to fight them i'm sure it can be done.

We just have to make sure of the terms of the government, pure democracy doesn't work, they need a constitution to avoid a majority rule.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Regarding the stereotypical hate fest on Muslims...

The ultimate means of healing the wounds of September 11th, is for a media campaign to follow an actual campaign in Muslim countries to bring power to righteous men who use their power to bring justice to criminals and terrorists. Men who restore peace and order to the land.

Over 90% of Afghans have never heard of 911, but the number is kind of muddled

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearn...l_over_90_of_afghans_have_never_heard_of_911/

 

[Orignal Earl]

A positive message is absolutely critical to sow anything short of hatred.

Well, we know now that millions of books teaching terror to kids worked
I'd bet the opposite could work too