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So, 1080p is going to be come obselete soon?

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
there is no too real lol🙂

sorta like saying a speaker sounds too good right?

can't wait for 100" screens, that would be badass.

hey, just a decade ago plasma/lcd panels at even 42" woulda blown your mind. so u never know.
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Front projection ftw? 😛
 
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Too bad there is no broadcasting standard for that resolution, so it is pretty much pointless for anything other than specialized uses.
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720p and 1080i will remain the broadcasting stsnard for a longggggggggg time to come. you won't see any recorded media above 1080p either. the only good the resolution on this monitor will be is when hooked up toa computer and you set it above 1920x1080 and even then what will be the benefit? larger desktop reality? and maybe some games might support this.
 
Originally posted by: BillyBatson
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Too bad there is no broadcasting standard for that resolution, so it is pretty much pointless for anything other than specialized uses.
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720p and 1080i will remain the broadcasting stsnard for a longggggggggg time to come. you won't see any recorded media above 1080p either. the only good the resolution on this monitor will be is when hooked up toa computer and you set it above 1920x1080 and even then what will be the benefit? larger desktop reality? and maybe some games might support this.
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That's what they said about 1080p about 5 years ago. Impossible were the cries. Now it's commonplace.
 
Oh and I hope that before 22.2 audio comes out, they'll have a tactile sound channel in movies 😀 (unless that's what the second LFE track is)
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BillyBatson
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Too bad there is no broadcasting standard for that resolution, so it is pretty much pointless for anything other than specialized uses.
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720p and 1080i will remain the broadcasting stsnard for a longggggggggg time to come. you won't see any recorded media above 1080p either. the only good the resolution on this monitor will be is when hooked up toa computer and you set it above 1920x1080 and even then what will be the benefit? larger desktop reality? and maybe some games might support this.
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That's what they said about 1080p about 5 years ago. Impossible were the cries. Now it's commonplace.
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what are you talking about? 1080p is not only the less common of the 3, it is the only one not a broadcast standard and probably won't be since one of the main reasons they swapped over to HD was to free up the spectrums used and have more bandwidth, if they broadcasted at 1080p it defeat the purpose of tryign to have more bandwodth in the first place especially for a res that offers very little to no imporovement over 1080i especially with current (and common) sets out there
 
Originally posted by: BillyBatson
what are you talking about? 1080p is not only the less common of the 3, it is the only one not a broadcast standard and probably won't be since one of the main reasons they swapped over to HD was to free up the spectrums used and have more bandwidth, if they broadcasted at 1080p it defeat the purpose of tryign to have more bandwodth in the first place especially for a res that offers very little to no imporovement over 1080i especially with current (and common) sets out there
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Billy. If you look back over the devolpment of HD, 1080p was a pipe dream only 5 years ago. Now it is commonplace. If you look at modern broadcast cameras they are all capable of 1080p now.

Offers little to no improvement my arse. 1080p is the TRUE High Definition standard. This has always been the case, and now we have the technology to deliver it. Also I don't think you understand just how much bandwidth cable TV has. Especially since now they (HFC networks) are being pushed by PON networks.

Sure it's a lot of acronyms but basically there is a strong push by cable and telcos to get that capacity into the home. This is driving the technology. Delivering 1080p to the home is not difficult at all.
 
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh and I hope that before 22.2 audio comes out, they'll have a tactile sound channel in movies 😀 (unless that's what the second LFE track is)
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tactile, as in feeling it? just get manufacturers to start making sub's that can handle below 10hz 🙂
 
Do you like getting nauseous?

?Preliminary response of the UHDV was somewhat negative. This was not because of the lack of the promised technology, but more in the fact that it was too good. Some viewers got motion sickness when viewing the video image because the image was so close to reality.?

This is going to be way expensive for home use in the foreseeable future. None of the existing infrastructure can handle this amount of bandwidth. We are just beginning to get use to providing lambdas at an OC-192 at a corporate level.

?18 minutes of uncompressed UHDV footage consumes 3.5 terabytes of data and 1 minute of footage consumes 194 gigabytes. If 1920×1080p60 high definition video has a bitrate of 60 Mbit/s using current MPEG-2 compression technologies, then 4 times the width and 4 times the height will roughly require 16 times the bitrate, which translates to 100 GB for 18 minutes of UHDV, or 6 GB per minute if MPEG-2 video compression was used.?
?In November 2005 NHK demonstrated a live relay of Super Hi-Vision (UHDV) program over a distance of 260 km by a fiberoptic network. 24 gigabit speed was achieved using DWDM (dense wavelength division multiplex) method with a total of 16 different wavelength signals.?
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh and I hope that before 22.2 audio comes out, they'll have a tactile sound channel in movies 😀 (unless that's what the second LFE track is)
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tactile, as in feeling it? just get manufacturers to start making sub's that can handle below 10hz 🙂
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I think it should carry different information than the standard audio LFE track. I can get some tactile sensation from my sub (tuned to 12hz) but it's so much easier to get tactile sensation from transducers of some sort attached to the seating. No need to blast movies at reference (or louder) to get things really going.

I think adding a tactile track would give more benefit than say going from 21 to 22 standard audio tracks for surround.
 
Originally posted by: BillyBatson
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Too bad there is no broadcasting standard for that resolution, so it is pretty much pointless for anything other than specialized uses.
Click to expand...

720p and 1080i will remain the broadcasting stsnard for a longggggggggg time to come. you won't see any recorded media above 1080p either. the only good the resolution on this monitor will be is when hooked up toa computer and you set it above 1920x1080 and even then what will be the benefit? larger desktop reality? and maybe some games might support this.
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laser printer quality text?😉
 
I can only get 1mbps DSL... I don't think I'll worry to much about upgrading my 27 inch unflat tube Panasonic any time soon.
 
Originally posted by: Qianglong
Quad HDTV will finally be here around mid this year:
http://tgdaily.com/2007/01/03/westinghouse_2160p_tv/

I've seen some of the Quad HDTV on a trip back to asia sitting beside a regular 1080p TV..it will for sure make 1080p fanbois cry haha
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are monitors/ players for the asian/ japanese markets ham-stringed with content protection tho? just playing bluray or hd-dvd requires huge computing resources due to the ridiculous amounts of encryption and decryption required to keep the content "secure", how would a modern computer even begin to deal with double the resolution + content protection..?
 
Originally posted by: Juice Box
Originally posted by: Shlong
Just wait for Ultra High Definition

7,680 × 4,320
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"18 minutes of uncompressed UHDV footage consumes 3.5 terabytes of data and 1 minute of footage consumes 194 gigabytes"

"Preliminary response of the UHDV was somewhat negative. This was not because of the lack of the promised technology, but more in the fact that it was too good. Some viewers got motion sickness when viewing the video image because the image was so close to reality."

Holy mother of hell...
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Huh? I thought that response was for the resolution advertised in the OP, never heard of 7680 X4320...

Infact I remember them calling 3840X 2160 Ultra HD...
 
for an average sized tv, you don't really even need 1080p.

I am more excited about SED (an alternative to LCD) which gives crazy contrast ratios of 100,000:1 so you get a much brighter, clearer display more like a conventional tv. SED also supports higher resolutions and fast motion with no shadowing
 
Originally posted by: FlashG
Do you like getting nauseous?

?Preliminary response of the UHDV was somewhat negative. This was not because of the lack of the promised technology, but more in the fact that it was too good. Some viewers got motion sickness when viewing the video image because the image was so close to reality.?

This is going to be way expensive for home use in the foreseeable future. None of the existing infrastructure can handle this amount of bandwidth. We are just beginning to get use to providing lambdas at an OC-192 at a corporate level.

?18 minutes of uncompressed UHDV footage consumes 3.5 terabytes of data and 1 minute of footage consumes 194 gigabytes. If 1920×1080p60 high definition video has a bitrate of 60 Mbit/s using current MPEG-2 compression technologies, then 4 times the width and 4 times the height will roughly require 16 times the bitrate, which translates to 100 GB for 18 minutes of UHDV, or 6 GB per minute if MPEG-2 video compression was used.?
?In November 2005 NHK demonstrated a live relay of Super Hi-Vision (UHDV) program over a distance of 260 km by a fiberoptic network. 24 gigabit speed was achieved using DWDM (dense wavelength division multiplex) method with a total of 16 different wavelength signals.?
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Thats definately possible. Remember, few people would use these videos in their UNcompressed entirety though you would need that if you're doing video editing so I guess no luck in getting the videos TO the consumer. 😛 6GB a minute translates to 102MB/s which isn't that much faster from the fastest HDD at the moment. Also, this is talking about Mpeg 2 compression, not H.264 compression which can fit an HD (1080i/p [dunno about P]) movie onto a DVD...
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
for an average sized tv, you don't really even need 1080p.

I am more excited about SED (an alternative to LCD) which gives crazy contrast ratios of 100,000:1 so you get a much brighter, clearer display more like a conventional tv. SED also supports higher resolutions and fast motion with no shadowing
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If I can get one of these Quad HD monitors that are SED second generation, I'd be good to go (avoids first gen. items).
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: BillyBatson
what are you talking about? 1080p is not only the less common of the 3, it is the only one not a broadcast standard and probably won't be since one of the main reasons they swapped over to HD was to free up the spectrums used and have more bandwidth, if they broadcasted at 1080p it defeat the purpose of tryign to have more bandwodth in the first place especially for a res that offers very little to no imporovement over 1080i especially with current (and common) sets out there
Click to expand...

Billy. If you look back over the devolpment of HD, 1080p was a pipe dream only 5 years ago. Now it is commonplace. If you look at modern broadcast cameras they are all capable of 1080p now.

Offers little to no improvement my arse. 1080p is the TRUE High Definition standard. This has always been the case, and now we have the technology to deliver it. Also I don't think you understand just how much bandwidth cable TV has. Especially since now they (HFC networks) are being pushed by PON networks.

Sure it's a lot of acronyms but basically there is a strong push by cable and telcos to get that capacity into the home. This is driving the technology. Delivering 1080p to the home is not difficult at all.
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Tell that to the dish people. They can't even deliver 1920 x 1080i on all their channels, much less 1080p.
The average person can't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p anyway, not with 1080i source.
 
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Oh and I hope that before 22.2 audio comes out, they'll have a tactile sound channel in movies 😀 (unless that's what the second LFE track is)
Click to expand...

tactile, as in feeling it? just get manufacturers to start making sub's that can handle below 10hz 🙂
Click to expand...

I think it should carry different information than the standard audio LFE track. I can get some tactile sensation from my sub (tuned to 12hz) but it's so much easier to get tactile sensation from transducers of some sort attached to the seating. No need to blast movies at reference (or louder) to get things really going.

I think adding a tactile track would give more benefit than say going from 21 to 22 standard audio tracks for surround.
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That sounds seriously awesome. Add another track for smells.
 
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