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clamum

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Originally posted by: MrLee
Originally posted by: clamum
Well this thread just inspired me to go take a cig break. Thanks ATOT for continuing my cig addiction. :|

After reading this thread I don't think someone would be interested in a smoke break. I would think they would be interested in stopping smoking, hell even stopping dipping, and using snus as a "healthier" alternative. I'm not saying snus is a miracle drug, but everything I've read in this thread is true. There is a very low level of carcinogins, there is no evidence that snus causes oral cancer, and there is definately no chance of lung or throat cancer.

There is also more niccotine in snus then there is in chewing tobacco and cigs, so what excuse would someone have to smoke instead of use snus?
Haha well I didn't read the whole thing. I just scanned it and was thinking about taking a smoke break anyway, so I just decided to. I know smoking and dipping and whatnot is bad for you anyway.
 

RPatrick

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The Marlboro snus you see for sale in the US is not real snus. It is a completely different product.

The Camel snus is made in Sweden and is more like genuine snus, except that the flavors are very sweet resulting in a candy like taste. The Frost flavor in particular is quite good though.

The most popular online site for ordering snus from Sweden is buysnus.com

clamum, instead of taking a cigarette break, get yourself some snus and stay at your computer and breathe easy. You'll be thanking us later !
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: RPatrick
The Marlboro snus you see for sale in the US is not real snus. It is a completely different product.

The Camel snus is made in Sweden and is more like genuine snus, except that the flavors are very sweet resulting in a candy like taste. The Frost flavor in particular is quite good though.

The most popular online site for ordering snus from Sweden is buysnus.com

clamum, instead of taking a cigarette break, get yourself some snus and stay at your computer and breathe easy. You'll be thanking us later !

That Camel stuff is outright nasty...
A friend of mine tried it once(he always tries every new brand), and bleh...I think I kept one snus in for 5 minutes, then got rid of it and took a proper one instead.
I can definitely see why they're not doing very well around here :)
 

RPatrick

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For someone who is used to Genuine Swedish Snus, the Camel product has no chance.

I believe it is a good introduction to Snus for people who have never used it before, like american smokers. It is sweet, extremely mild, and helps with the transition to oral tobacco.

I was using the Camel snus for a couple of weeks, but once I imported the real deal from Sweden I never went back. :)
 

destrekor

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None of these stores are proving very helpful for me. I don't want to order a roll, because for this first import, I want to try a can. Well, buysnus.com seems to allow single can purchases (want to try a few different flavors and brands), but they have very limited choices for white portion, which is really the only thing I want. I enjoy the long lasting effect of the white portions, and if the Triumph Snus is any indication, Swedish Match white portions products seem to then not have the 'browning of teeth' effect that I've seen reported elsewhere (I think its mostly characteristic to regular portions).

BTW, is there any indication as to whether white portions have higher amounts of nitrosamines? I like the idea of low cancer risk, but since white portions are drier (and the Triumph brand here in Ohio isn't even sold refrigerated! That makes me a little leery but I still continue to purchase it), I wasn't sure if they tend to be higher in content or not.
Also, if not refrigerated, do the reactions occur and more nitrosamines are produced? I have read that somewhere, because the natural reactions don't occur in a cold environment.

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Sunner

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Originally posted by: destrekor
None of these stores are proving very helpful for me. I don't want to order a roll, because for this first import, I want to try a can. Well, buysnus.com seems to allow single can purchases (want to try a few different flavors and brands), but they have very limited choices for white portion, which is really the only thing I want. I enjoy the long lasting effect of the white portions, and if the Triumph Snus is any indication, Swedish Match white portions products seem to then not have the 'browning of teeth' effect that I've seen reported elsewhere (I think its mostly characteristic to regular portions).

Not all white portions are explicitly named as such.
For example, the snus I'm using this very moment is Skruf Strong Portion, while it's not really white(as in color), it's very similar to say General White, and lasts for a very long time(I had one in for ~2 hours once, mostly because I forgot about it :) ).
Göteborgs Rape is the same deal, it's the "original" white, as in it's always been that way, it's more of a "perfume snus" though, but not bad.
Ettan White is nice as well, and LD isn't bad if you want to save a little bit of money, same with Kronan and Granit.
 

RPatrick

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I have tried over 20 different types of snus. I have found that if I like the flavor, whether the portion is original style or white portion makes no difference to me.

Whether the portion is original or white should make little difference on the staining of teeth. After a few minutes, the white portion generates juice similar to the originals. From what I have seen and read, if you brush your teeth regularly and practice good oral hygiene, there will be very little or no staining from snus use.

Here is a website that will allow you to buy 1 can of General Wintergreen White Portion.

http://www.iwanries.com/Genera...ergreen_Snus_P6992.cfm
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: RPatrick
I have tried over 20 different types of snus. I have found that if I like the flavor, whether the portion is original style or white portion makes no difference to me.

Whether the portion is original or white should make little difference on the staining of teeth. After a few minutes, the white portion generates juice similar to the originals. From what I have seen and read, if you brush your teeth regularly and practice good oral hygiene, there will be very little or no staining from snus use.

Here is a website that will allow you to buy 1 can of General Wintergreen White Portion.

http://www.iwanries.com/Genera...ergreen_Snus_P6992.cfm

White portions tend to go a little harder on your gums though, at least if you're a "chain snuser".
Basically, I'd say the pros and cons of white are:
+ Generally lasts longer
+ Not quite as runny(differs a bit between brands though)
+ Less likely to provoke "Ewww" type reactions from chicks
- Since they're more dry, wears out your gums a bit if you snus a lot
- Won't taste quite as much, but they do taste the same

As for stains, yeah, unless your dental hygiene sucks in general, stains won't be a problem.
Been using it for quite a while now, and there's no visible difference on my teeth.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: RPatrick
I have tried over 20 different types of snus. I have found that if I like the flavor, whether the portion is original style or white portion makes no difference to me.

Whether the portion is original or white should make little difference on the staining of teeth. After a few minutes, the white portion generates juice similar to the originals. From what I have seen and read, if you brush your teeth regularly and practice good oral hygiene, there will be very little or no staining from snus use.

Here is a website that will allow you to buy 1 can of General Wintergreen White Portion.

http://www.iwanries.com/Genera...ergreen_Snus_P6992.cfm

White portions tend to go a little harder on your gums though, at least if you're a "chain snuser".
Basically, I'd say the pros and cons of white are:
+ Generally lasts longer
+ Not quite as runny(differs a bit between brands though)
+ Less likely to provoke "Ewww" type reactions from chicks
- Since they're more dry, wears out your gums a bit if you snus a lot
- Won't taste quite as much, but they do taste the same

As for stains, yeah, unless your dental hygiene sucks in general, stains won't be a problem.
Been using it for quite a while now, and there's no visible difference on my teeth.

Well the thing is, I'm not really suggesting permanent staining, but rather.. a temporary 'browning' effect until you can clean your teeth. I don't necessarily have 'white' teeth, but they aren't discolored either, rather they aren't pearly white. But I don't want to use a snus portion, then when sitting in class or somewhere away from home, and have a noticeable brown shade on my front teeth. Bad enough I have rather large front teeth so it would be noticeable when talking.

When I say white portion though, I generally just mean the dryer packs. But if there isn't necessarily a difference, I guess I'll just find one. But I can't find the General Wintergreen unless I order a roll, and I'm not prepared to 'try' a brand by buying an entire roll. I'm sure I'll like it, but I'd rather order a couple singles to try a few brands.
I think I'll try the Skruf Cranberry, and is the Elixyr Power Energy portions any good? Or Elixyr portions in general? Still attempting to find regular General Wintergreen, I feel that is a must to try as its the most likely one I'll like from the descriptions.

Any of those brands... does anyone notice any noticeable, temporary 'browning' of the teeth? I'll avoid those if thats the case. I really like snus for the fact that its generally not tell tale that you are a snuser, unless someone sees you putting a new one in or taking one out. I generally just keep mine in, say if I'm in class, until class is dismissed and I walk near a trash can if I feel its basically dead or I'm going to be eating soon.

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StrangeRanger

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Destrekor,
Did you see the "Buy & Try" section on swedishsnus.com? Looks like you can order a "kit" that has 1 can of like 6-8 different brands. Very reasonable too. Think I'll dose on one of them.
j
 

venkman

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I thought this thread was going to be about anus but with a typo in the thread titles. :(
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: StrangeRanger
Destrekor,
Did you see the "Buy & Try" section on swedishsnus.com? Looks like you can order a "kit" that has 1 can of like 6-8 different brands. Very reasonable too. Think I'll dose on one of them.
j

I don't really feel like trying all those brands. There basically all straight flavor snus, rather than the more potent flavor options. I've looked it over a couple times I feel it would end up being equally worthless. No good flavor options IMHO. ;)
Thanks for the suggestion though.

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BAMAVOO

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Which would would be closest to the flavor of Copenhagen?

If this stuff is safer, I may have to switch, if I can find a good alternative to Cope.

 

RPatrick

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BAMAVOO,

Snus is scientifically proven to be safer than snuff based on chemical analysis. It contains approximately 2% of the amount of carcinogens found in american snuff. In Sweden, the rate of oral cancer for snus users is the same as the rate for people who have never used tobacco.

For a copenhagen type taste, try General Original Portions. It is the most popular natural flavor, and my favorite unsweetened snus. If you decide you don't like the spicy flavor of General, then try Ettan. Ettan is one of the most pure tobacco flavors offered and has very little added seasoning.
 

RPatrick

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is the Elixyr Power Energy portions any good? Or Elixyr portions in general?

I have tried the peppermint, and it is not like Mint snuff. It has a lot of salt and is not sweet. Going only by what I have heard, the Power Energy portions are very disappointing.

A lot of opinions on the various flavors can be found at:

www.snuson.com
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: RPatrick
I have tried over 20 different types of snus. I have found that if I like the flavor, whether the portion is original style or white portion makes no difference to me.

Whether the portion is original or white should make little difference on the staining of teeth. After a few minutes, the white portion generates juice similar to the originals. From what I have seen and read, if you brush your teeth regularly and practice good oral hygiene, there will be very little or no staining from snus use.

Here is a website that will allow you to buy 1 can of General Wintergreen White Portion.

http://www.iwanries.com/Genera...ergreen_Snus_P6992.cfm

White portions tend to go a little harder on your gums though, at least if you're a "chain snuser".
Basically, I'd say the pros and cons of white are:
+ Generally lasts longer
+ Not quite as runny(differs a bit between brands though)
+ Less likely to provoke "Ewww" type reactions from chicks
- Since they're more dry, wears out your gums a bit if you snus a lot
- Won't taste quite as much, but they do taste the same

As for stains, yeah, unless your dental hygiene sucks in general, stains won't be a problem.
Been using it for quite a while now, and there's no visible difference on my teeth.

Well the thing is, I'm not really suggesting permanent staining, but rather.. a temporary 'browning' effect until you can clean your teeth. I don't necessarily have 'white' teeth, but they aren't discolored either, rather they aren't pearly white. But I don't want to use a snus portion, then when sitting in class or somewhere away from home, and have a noticeable brown shade on my front teeth. Bad enough I have rather large front teeth so it would be noticeable when talking.

When I say white portion though, I generally just mean the dryer packs. But if there isn't necessarily a difference, I guess I'll just find one. But I can't find the General Wintergreen unless I order a roll, and I'm not prepared to 'try' a brand by buying an entire roll. I'm sure I'll like it, but I'd rather order a couple singles to try a few brands.
I think I'll try the Skruf Cranberry, and is the Elixyr Power Energy portions any good? Or Elixyr portions in general? Still attempting to find regular General Wintergreen, I feel that is a must to try as its the most likely one I'll like from the descriptions.

Any of those brands... does anyone notice any noticeable, temporary 'browning' of the teeth? I'll avoid those if thats the case. I really like snus for the fact that its generally not tell tale that you are a snuser, unless someone sees you putting a new one in or taking one out. I generally just keep mine in, say if I'm in class, until class is dismissed and I walk near a trash can if I feel its basically dead or I'm going to be eating soon.

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Nope, never noticed any temporary staining either, it's not like it turns your saliva brown or anything :)
As for white, I think it's more of a marketing thing, calling it specifically "white portion".
I've never seen any non-Gothiatek brand call their stuff "white portion", but there are plenty of portions like that, for example the Skruf I mentioned.
Oh and people will notice if they actually look you in the face, unless you have enormous lips :)
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: RPatrick
I have tried over 20 different types of snus. I have found that if I like the flavor, whether the portion is original style or white portion makes no difference to me.

Whether the portion is original or white should make little difference on the staining of teeth. After a few minutes, the white portion generates juice similar to the originals. From what I have seen and read, if you brush your teeth regularly and practice good oral hygiene, there will be very little or no staining from snus use.

Here is a website that will allow you to buy 1 can of General Wintergreen White Portion.

http://www.iwanries.com/Genera...ergreen_Snus_P6992.cfm

White portions tend to go a little harder on your gums though, at least if you're a "chain snuser".
Basically, I'd say the pros and cons of white are:
+ Generally lasts longer
+ Not quite as runny(differs a bit between brands though)
+ Less likely to provoke "Ewww" type reactions from chicks
- Since they're more dry, wears out your gums a bit if you snus a lot
- Won't taste quite as much, but they do taste the same

As for stains, yeah, unless your dental hygiene sucks in general, stains won't be a problem.
Been using it for quite a while now, and there's no visible difference on my teeth.

Well the thing is, I'm not really suggesting permanent staining, but rather.. a temporary 'browning' effect until you can clean your teeth. I don't necessarily have 'white' teeth, but they aren't discolored either, rather they aren't pearly white. But I don't want to use a snus portion, then when sitting in class or somewhere away from home, and have a noticeable brown shade on my front teeth. Bad enough I have rather large front teeth so it would be noticeable when talking.

When I say white portion though, I generally just mean the dryer packs. But if there isn't necessarily a difference, I guess I'll just find one. But I can't find the General Wintergreen unless I order a roll, and I'm not prepared to 'try' a brand by buying an entire roll. I'm sure I'll like it, but I'd rather order a couple singles to try a few brands.
I think I'll try the Skruf Cranberry, and is the Elixyr Power Energy portions any good? Or Elixyr portions in general? Still attempting to find regular General Wintergreen, I feel that is a must to try as its the most likely one I'll like from the descriptions.

Any of those brands... does anyone notice any noticeable, temporary 'browning' of the teeth? I'll avoid those if thats the case. I really like snus for the fact that its generally not tell tale that you are a snuser, unless someone sees you putting a new one in or taking one out. I generally just keep mine in, say if I'm in class, until class is dismissed and I walk near a trash can if I feel its basically dead or I'm going to be eating soon.

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Nope, never noticed any temporary staining either, it's not like it turns your saliva brown or anything :)
As for white, I think it's more of a marketing thing, calling it specifically "white portion".
I've never seen any non-Gothiatek brand call their stuff "white portion", but there are plenty of portions like that, for example the Skruf I mentioned.
Oh and people will notice if they actually look you in the face, unless you have enormous lips :)

I dunno. My one Army buddy who hates dip has yet to point it out if I ever have it in. But then again, it may be unsuspecting since I'm not carrying around a spit-cup like half of the guys here. lol
If I smile its definitely noticeable that something is there, not that anything is seen but my upper lip looks paralyzed. lol A buddy asked if I had a dentist appointment earlier in the day last night when I came over with one in. lol
I usually kind of push it to the side of my upper lip though, just because the pouches kind of start bothering my gums a bit so I shift it around and rarely keep it dead center upper lip.

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Auggie

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Woot, I just ordered ~ 1 dozen different kinds of Snus from buysnus.com.

I'm really, really, REALLY looking forward to a fun, easy way to break off of cigarettes.

Guess I'll celebrate the order by lighting up one of my last few Camel Turkish Golds, like the 2nd poster up top. :p