Snub of Carter is Bush league

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: baoytl
[Maybe Andy Card was a last minute addition.

Maybe a last minute addition to add to the snubbing.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Carter could have learned to keep his mouth shut and not criticize the sitting president, which he did to Reagan, Clinton, and Bush (but let Bush Sr. pretty much slide), he would've been invited. It's considered poor form for a former president to publicly criticize the sitting president and is something that is just not done. Like it or not, there are still political rules of etiquette that must be followed and when those rules are not followed, snubs are inevitable as payback. Carter basically talked himself out of an invite so boo hoo for the Jimster.

Besides, now he's free to jump on the bandwagon and pose with Jackson and Sharpton at Johnny Cochran's funeral.

Which shows that Bush is indeed petty. Your resentment of liberal leaders is well known, and I share much of that sentiment. If I were Bush though, I would overlook past wrongs perceived or real under the circumstances.

Your last statement about Cochran is merely contemptuous and typical of the Bush supporter mindset.


BTW I like to use a little spelling proggy now and again.

It suggested TastesLikeChicken be changed to "Dissatisfaction". Considering how you view Liberals and Liberalism in public, perhaps that is a better name. Perhaps you come out of the closet and announce yourself formally as being Conservative. I have no problem with you doing that. It would be more honest, but deceit has it's advantages in getting some things done.
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More boo hoos from the liberal crowd? How typical.

Your complaint is also typical. The liberals are more than happy to dish out the contemptuous and crass comments all over this forum and all over the web, but when it comes back their way they get all bent out of shape -- making weak little accusations (Ppell-checking my nick? Puhleeze. How infantile.) and manufacturing pointy little commentary; complaining that those damn conservatives just aren't fair and should act better. What they really seem to be saying is 'Please don't act as petty as we are acting.'

So excuse me if I have no sympathy at all for Carter's behavior and your response.

btw, I will never qualify as a conservative, so give it up.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I think Carter is just too classy a guy to make a too big a fuss. I am not happy that this in effect prevented him from saying goodbye to an old friend.

Jimmy Carter is incapable of getting on a plane himself and going to Rome?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Carter could have learned to keep his mouth shut and not criticize the sitting president, which he did to Reagan, Clinton, and Bush (but let Bush Sr. pretty much slide), he would've been invited. It's considered poor form for a former president to publicly criticize the sitting president and is something that is just not done. Like it or not, there are still political rules of etiquette that must be followed and when those rules are not followed, snubs are inevitable as payback. Carter basically talked himself out of an invite so boo hoo for the Jimster.

Besides, now he's free to jump on the bandwagon and pose with Jackson and Sharpton at Johnny Cochran's funeral.

Which shows that Bush is indeed petty. Your resentment of liberal leaders is well known, and I share much of that sentiment. If I were Bush though, I would overlook past wrongs perceived or real under the circumstances.

Your last statement about Cochran is merely contemptuous and typical of the Bush supporter mindset.


BTW I like to use a little spelling proggy now and again.

It suggested TastesLikeChicken be changed to "Dissatisfaction". Considering how you view Liberals and Liberalism in public, perhaps that is a better name. Perhaps you come out of the closet and announce yourself formally as being Conservative. I have no problem with you doing that. It would be more honest, but deceit has it's advantages in getting some things done.

More boo hoos from the liberal crowd? How typical.

Your complaint is also typical. The liberals are more than happy to dish out the contemptuous and crass comments all over this forum and all over the web, but when it comes back their way they get all bent out of shape -- making weak little accusations (Ppell-checking my nick? Puhleeze. How infantile.) and manufacturing pointy little commentary; complaining that those damn conservatives just aren't fair and should act better. What they really seem to be saying is 'Please don't act as petty as we are acting.'

So excuse me if I have no sympathy at all for Carter's behavior and your response.

btw, I will never qualify as a conservative, so give it up.[/quote]

Funny, because I am not a liberal. Neither do I consider myself a conservative. Both sides have good and bad points. Right now the so called conservatives are not doing well IMO

BTW, if I were Prez, and Bush had been in Carter's position I should have invited him no matter what I thought of the man. Perhaps I have a better idea of Christian compassion than the man who professes to be one.

Well, you have said Bush's pettiness is warranted. Little men in high places. So be it.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If Carter could have learned to keep his mouth shut and not criticize the sitting president, which he did to Reagan, Clinton, and Bush (but let Bush Sr. pretty much slide), he would've been invited. It's considered poor form for a former president to publicly criticize the sitting president and is something that is just not done. Like it or not, there are still political rules of etiquette that must be followed and when those rules are not followed, snubs are inevitable as payback. Carter basically talked himself out of an invite so boo hoo for the Jimster.

Besides, now he's free to jump on the bandwagon and pose with Jackson and Sharpton at Johnny Cochran's funeral.

Which shows that Bush is indeed petty. Your resentment of liberal leaders is well known, and I share much of that sentiment. If I were Bush though, I would overlook past wrongs perceived or real under the circumstances.

Your last statement about Cochran is merely contemptuous and typical of the Bush supporter mindset.


BTW I like to use a little spelling proggy now and again.

It suggested TastesLikeChicken be changed to "Dissatisfaction". Considering how you view Liberals and Liberalism in public, perhaps that is a better name. Perhaps you come out of the closet and announce yourself formally as being Conservative. I have no problem with you doing that. It would be more honest, but deceit has it's advantages in getting some things done.

More boo hoos from the liberal crowd? How typical.

Your complaint is also typical. The liberals are more than happy to dish out the contemptuous and crass comments all over this forum and all over the web, but when it comes back their way they get all bent out of shape -- making weak little accusations (Ppell-checking my nick? Puhleeze. How infantile.) and manufacturing pointy little commentary; complaining that those damn conservatives just aren't fair and should act better. What they really seem to be saying is 'Please don't act as petty as we are acting.'

So excuse me if I have no sympathy at all for Carter's behavior and your response.

btw, I will never qualify as a conservative, so give it up.

Funny, because I am not a liberal. Neither do I consider myself a conservative. Both sides have good and bad points. Right now the so called conservatives are not doing well IMO

BTW, if I were Prez, and Bush had been in Carter's position I should have invited him no matter what I thought of the man. Perhaps I have a better idea of Christian compassion than the man who professes to be one.

Well, you have said Bush's pettiness is warranted. Little men in high places. So be it.


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Sorry, but I can't quite get over the dichotomy and irony of petty people who call Bush petty, no matter what high or low place they reside in.

 

[SeminoleMarine]

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Jimmy Carter is incapable of getting on a plane himself and going to Rome?

Bingo! That would be the easy way, but then the Bush bashers wouldn't have anything to complain about. If he is such a great humanitarian and an overall good and moral guy, don't you think he would get his time with the Pope for his photo ops? I think so. So, Jimmy, go online order your ticket and fly your butt on your dime over to Rome.

 

[TheGameIs21]

I love how people who have no idea actually think that Carter was "Snubbed".

"Livid" Lawmaker

New Jersey Democrat Jon Corzine's (search) office put out a statement today saying the Senator was "livid" that President Bush "refused to allow" Jimmy Carter (search) to join the official U.S. delegation to the Vatican. Corzine accused the President of "injecting petty partisan politics" into the Pope's death, and called the "snub," "sad, disappointing, and extremely disturbing."

But Carter says he was invited to join the delegation and declined, saying that because of the limited number of invitations, he would defer to others who wanted to attend. What's more, Corzine now admits to FOX News that he hasn't spoken with President Carter on the issue and has no evidence to suggest that Carter was snubbed by the White House.

I will agree that IF Bush had "snubbed" Carter that would have been a crappy thing to do but before I call BS on anybody, I find out the full story first.

[edit] Forgot to link Fox News but you'll see that this isn't a Fox spin with CNN saying the same thing. HE WAS INVITED BUT DECLINED.

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Jimmy Carter is incapable of getting on a plane himself and going to Rome?

Bingo! That would be the easy way, but then the Bush bashers wouldn't have anything to complain about. If he is such a great humanitarian and an overall good and moral guy, don't you think he would get his time with the Pope for his photo ops? I think so. So, Jimmy, go online order your ticket and fly your butt on your dime over to Rome.

No. A President is a dignitary, and Carter is still a President.

I'll betcha a million bucks that if Clinton & daddy-Bush hadn't mended fences, that Clinton sure as heck would not have been along for the ride yesterday. That's for darn sure!

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM

Originally posted by: SeminoleMarine

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Jimmy Carter is incapable of getting on a plane himself and going to Rome?

Bingo! That would be the easy way, but then the Bush bashers wouldn't have anything to complain about. If he is such a great humanitarian and an overall good and moral guy, don't you think he would get his time with the Pope for his photo ops? I think so. So, Jimmy, go online order your ticket and fly your butt on your dime over to Rome.

No. A President is a dignitary, and Carter is still a President.

I'll betcha a million bucks that if Clinton & daddy-Bush hadn't mended fences, that Clinton sure as heck would not have been along for the ride yesterday. That's for darn sure!

Seeing as how Carter WAS invited, this is a mute point.

 

[judasmachine]

Carter is a free US citizen and can do and not do what he damn well pleases.

 

[MisterCornell]

Who gives a fvck about Jimmy Carter. His disastrous economic policies ran the country into the ground.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I'll betcha a million bucks that if Clinton & daddy-Bush hadn't mended fences, that Clinton sure as heck would not have been along for the ride yesterday. That's for darn sure!

But they did mend fences...does that mean Clinton is a sell-out to the NeoCon agenda?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Jimmy Carter has the international prestige to attend the funeral if he so chose to do so...I understand that some of you cannot contain your urges to throw jabs at Bush, but this is not one of those opportunities.

I have to agree, Carter should attend at his own behest if he wishes.

And flip Bush the bird 😛

That is the kind of juvenile, futile crap modern Dems have become famous for. 🙂 That really energizes the party's base.

I agree with you 100%.

Want to split an order of Freedom Fries?

 

[Crimson]

Again, why did Carter choose not to attend the funeral of _TWO_ Pope's who died while he was President?

 

[dawheat]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
I love how people who have no idea actually think that Carter was "Snubbed".

"Livid" Lawmaker

New Jersey Democrat Jon Corzine's (search) office put out a statement today saying the Senator was "livid" that President Bush "refused to allow" Jimmy Carter (search) to join the official U.S. delegation to the Vatican. Corzine accused the President of "injecting petty partisan politics" into the Pope's death, and called the "snub," "sad, disappointing, and extremely disturbing."

But Carter says he was invited to join the delegation and declined, saying that because of the limited number of invitations, he would defer to others who wanted to attend. What's more, Corzine now admits to FOX News that he hasn't spoken with President Carter on the issue and has no evidence to suggest that Carter was snubbed by the White House.

I will agree that IF Bush had "snubbed" Carter that would have been a crappy thing to do but before I call BS on anybody, I find out the full story first.

[edit] Forgot to link Fox News but you'll see that this isn't a Fox spin with CNN saying the same thing. HE WAS INVITED BUT DECLINED.

Just in case people were ignoring your post 🙂

 

[Sketcher]

I can't believe that someone here and a few other places actually suggested that Condoleeza Rice should have been bumped to allow Carter a seat. The irony hits on many levels.
Talk about inferring that an African American take a back seat, as in back of the bus. You know damn well the MSM and Co. would be all over that if Condi were of the Liberal persuasion.

If you're sitting there incredulous at the fact that Carter isn't a top pic of the current administration for attending the funeral and you're arguing whether pettiness is afoot than you really don't understand the protocol and heritage of the presidency. You just don't go around slamming all the presidents since your run and then expect a pat on the back for it. Heck, he even criticized Clinton and Gore during the Dem Love Fest prior to the '04 election.

Carter didn't think it important to visit the funerals of Popes who died while he was in office (previously mentioned). And he could damn well afford his own plane ticket if it's important for him to go; Not to mention he'd draw all kinds of sympathetic attention and probably get a pretty good seat for his efforts.

If you dweebs here really take issue with this 'non-issue'; I sure am glad you're in the party that you are.

Help is on the way.....

 

[baoytl]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Again, why did Carter choose not to attend the funeral of _TWO_ Pope's who died while he was President?

That argument is weak. Pope John Paul II was received at the White House. Carter and JPII met face to face. I don't know if he met the other two, but I doubt it.

 

[NesuD]

Carter tried to end the flap in a statement yesterday: "There has been no dissension between me and the White House concerning the pope's funeral," he said.
Seattle Times

Hmm Carter seems ok with it.

But some see Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner and an outspoken opponent of the Iraq war, as deliberately excluded by the Bush administration. Although the White House extended the invitation in a letter, they argue, the Republicans did not offer it in spirit. Seattle Times

For crying out loud what kind of crap is that? If the White House extended the invitation in a letter how can they be excluding him? Offer it in Spirit? Man you libbys are just completely crackers these days aren't you.

 

[fjord]

Why should I pay for any one of these corrupt administrators to go to a funeral in Italy?

They should all pay for their own ride.

Or better yet, they should all use their time for more usefull purposes, like righting all their collective sins--by doing a good job--instead of the horrible jobs that have characterized their awfull careers.