Snowboarders .. wtf is your problem?

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: Auryg
I actually got in a really bad ski accident somewhat due to snowboarders before.

I was going really fast and it was very icy that day, and the jump kind of sneaks up on you.

Well, there is your problem, not the snowboarders or the jump. You are lucky you didn't land on someone and hurt them too. Skiing too fast is reckless and dangerous. If you are skiing so fast that you cannot stop or appropriately change direction you are skiing out of control and breaking your responsibility code.

I am afraid you are 100% responsible for your accident, not the boarders or the jump.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: Auryg
I actually got in a really bad ski accident somewhat due to snowboarders before.

I was going really fast and it was very icy that day, and the jump kind of sneaks up on you.

Well, there is your problem, not the snowboarders or the jump. You are lucky you didn't land on someone and hurt them too. Skiing too fast is reckless and dangerous. If you are skiing so fast that you cannot stop or appropriately change direction you are skiing out of control and breaking your responsibility code.

I am afraid you are 100% responsible for your accident, not the boarders or the jump.

agreed. boarders or skiers, both can be clueless and inconsiderate of others by blocking the trail, etc.
The only way they'll learn is if others let them know.

 

[timosyy]

Heh. I board, but know exactly what you're talking about. I've also seen some rather spectacular collisions while going up the lift. It happens /shrug. Progressively less as you go to more and more difficult slopes. People may think a bit too highly of themselves but they're not suicidal (I rarely ever see pileups on blacks, etc.).

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

I don't even ski/board and I know that's nonsense.

 

[Kadarin]

I'm so looking forward to Tahoe this winter... I have a shitload of vacation time piled up, and I'm a black diamond skiier (single, not double). Squaw Valley, Heavenly, and Kirkwood FTW!

I might attempt learning snowboarding this year, but I have these new skis that I got last year that need more breaking in

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: theblackbox
i think skill lacking idiots is a better term. same problems out here. snowboarders fall into two categories. good and obstacle.

there are mountains on the east coast? shouldn't a mountain have a treeline?

ONLY above treeline skiing on the east coast

http://www.sugarloaf.com/

 

[AFSCrazy]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

I don't even ski/board and I know that's nonsense.

Well I've grown up skiing in the Northeast, I live in Massachusetts so I'm always up in New Hampshire and Vermont. I find some of the more difficult mountains here are a lot more difficult in their own respects when compared to some western skiing. I can't speak from much experience though, I've only been out west a handful of times so I guess it's all preference.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.

opinion at best. wrong to say the least.

this^

 

[JulesMaximus]

Now this is a mountain!

 

[Gooberlx2]

*shrug* Maybe it's the shit ice/snow that the East coast gets. Makes it tough for the unskilled boarders to get an edge. I'm a skier, but I think the snowboarders in the mountains here are generally fine. No worse than skiers, anyway. Ski patrol definitely busts their asses if they're just hanging out in the middle of the runs though. So maybe you should complain to management that ski patrol isn't doing their job.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/0roo0roo/snowboarding.jpg

Haha, I haven't seen it that bad, but yeah that's pretty much all they do. And they love doing that RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE LIFT, so people getting off have to run over them. Idiots.

uhmm... that's cuz they have to bind our boots to the board.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
I've snowboarded for nearly eight years now and I'm moving back to skis this winter. Part of the reason I'm doing this is because I don't want to be associated with most of the asshats that "ride" these days, but I also have become much more interested in going back country and it's a hell of a lot easier on skis than it is on a snowboard.

Really? I've done some backcountry, and definitely envied my snowboarder friends for a) their ultra comfy boots when hiking uphill and b) their board's naturally large surface area for riding on top of deep powder (I can't afford seperate powder skis).

 

[IceBergSLiM]

dont go on a holiday weekend duh.

 

[Genx87]

I was an avid skier. Got out 4-5 times a week and even taught. But since the end of college not so much. I actually havent hit the slopes in 7 years But plan to this winter. Boarders were a minor annoyance back in the day. But now it sounds like they own the hills? My biggest complaint wasnt with them sitting on their ass as much as their destruction of the slope. Most cant carve worth a dick and spend most of their time holding on for dear life. The result is when they turn they cut down to the base and move what little soft stuff there is leaving large areas of base that is tough to ski for most people. And even people who can ski it isnt enjoyable.

Sounds like when I get back out this year Ill be the old fart pissing and moaning about the good old days of the 90's when boarders were mainly confined to their half pipe.

btw I do have a snowboard and tried it. Wasnt me, didnt like the confined feeling of my legs being strapped into a single board.

 

[Elderly Newt]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: theblackbox
i think skill lacking idiots is a better term. same problems out here. snowboarders fall into two categories. good and obstacle.

there are mountains on the east coast? shouldn't a mountain have a treeline?

ONLY above treeline skiing on the east coast

http://www.sugarloaf.com/

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: although I do like Sunday River better

 

[Turnpike]

In defense of boarders:
1) Most people have to sit at the top of the run to strap in. Just like most you skiers have to stop and adjust your gloves/hat/poles.
2) Standing up while stopped is tiring on a snowboard. Its easier to plop your butt down somewhere while waiting for friends higher up the run catch up. I see skiers standing still all the time in the middle of runs to wait for their friends to catch up.

That being said... both parties need to be courteous about it and not block the runs. When big groups ride together with varying skill/speed levels this ALWAYS hapens. And its annoying. Personally I hate riding with more than 2-3 people. Also I have Flows so I don't have to stop or sit to strap in after getting off the lifts, which my skiing friends appreciate.

Also I've ridden east/west coast pretty extensively, esp in the NW and NE. East coast mountains do not compare in any way to the sheer magnitude and massiveness of west coast riding in terms of snow amount, bowls, elevation, etc. That being said the NE has some great terrain when they get massive snow dumps (ie a Nor'easter) a couple/few times a year. And while most of the time the snow is heavily groomed or ice, I had some amazing times at Sunday River, Killington, and Jays Peak. Also on the east coast you do get alot of riding in clear sunshine weather which is very rare on the west coast.

 

[Genx87]

btw I think you guys need to pipe down. Come to Minnesota and see what we have to offer. You cant complain about the east or west coasts then :evil:

Oh yeah 40 bucks a day gets you 300 foot vertical and obnoxious lines baby!
Which is the main reason why I havent been out in 7 years. Hard to get motivated for that. If I could, Denver would be my home. But I cant so I dream

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Elderly Newt

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: theblackbox
i think skill lacking idiots is a better term. same problems out here. snowboarders fall into two categories. good and obstacle.

there are mountains on the east coast? shouldn't a mountain have a treeline?

ONLY above treeline skiing on the east coast

http://www.sugarloaf.com/

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: although I do like Sunday River better

you GTFO! :|

 

[ViviTheMage]

rockies > all

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I was an avid skier. Got out 4-5 times a week and even taught. But since the end of college not so much. I actually havent hit the slopes in 7 years But plan to this winter. Boarders were a minor annoyance back in the day. But now it sounds like they own the hills? My biggest complaint wasnt with them sitting on their ass as much as their destruction of the slope. Most cant carve worth a dick and spend most of their time holding on for dear life. The result is when they turn they cut down to the base and move what little soft stuff there is leaving large areas of base that is tough to ski for most people. And even people who can ski it isnt enjoyable.

Sounds like when I get back out this year Ill be the old fart pissing and moaning about the good old days of the 90's when boarders were mainly confined to their half pipe.

btw I do have a snowboard and tried it. Wasnt me, didnt like the confined feeling of my legs being strapped into a single board.

I guess it depends on where you are. There was a skier/boarder rivalry when I lived in the Midwest. But that started to subside after snowboarding was pretty much (finally) legitimized in the '98 Winter Olympics.

In the rockies, I notice snowboarders aren't generally any bigger dicks or hill-hogs than skiers. Ski Patrol here actively moves people out of the way. And there are plenty cocky, skater dressed skiers.

There may be more snowboarders now, but I don't think they have a solid majority or anything. I'd say it's about 50/50.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
cascades > all

Fixed

 

[SearchMaster]

I haven't been skiing in about 5 years but the OP is the single reason why I "hate" snowboarders. It did seem like some slopes were worse than others about attracting the "group butt sit" boarders but it's annoying as all hell. I never could figure out what could be so fun about sitting on your damn butt in the middle of the slope all day.

<-- grumpy old man

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
cascades > all

Fixed

fixed from your experience, but I prefer the rockies

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: Auryg
I actually got in a really bad ski accident somewhat due to snowboarders before.

I was going really fast and it was very icy that day, and the jump kind of sneaks up on you.

Well, there is your problem, not the snowboarders or the jump. You are lucky you didn't land on someone and hurt them too. Skiing too fast is reckless and dangerous. If you are skiing so fast that you cannot stop or appropriately change direction you are skiing out of control and breaking your responsibility code.

I am afraid you are 100% responsible for your accident, not the boarders or the jump.

I'm sorry, but completely blocking off a trail so your only option is to hit a large jump or the trees is more of a problem than me going too fast. At that point I had been skiing for 5 years or so and was quite proficient and there's no way I would have hit anybody at that speed. I wasn't bombing down the trail.

I don't blame the snowboarders though; I do blame myself. Things could have just been a lot different if they had decided to park themselves another 10 feet up.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: illusion88

Originally posted by: Auryg
I actually got in a really bad ski accident somewhat due to snowboarders before.

I was going really fast and it was very icy that day, and the jump kind of sneaks up on you.

Well, there is your problem, not the snowboarders or the jump. You are lucky you didn't land on someone and hurt them too. Skiing too fast is reckless and dangerous. If you are skiing so fast that you cannot stop or appropriately change direction you are skiing out of control and breaking your responsibility code.

I am afraid you are 100% responsible for your accident, not the boarders or the jump.

I'm sorry, but completely blocking off a trail so your only option is to hit a large jump or the trees is more of a problem than me going too fast. At that point I had been skiing for 5 years or so and was quite proficient and there's no way I would have hit anybody at that speed. I wasn't bombing down the trail.

I don't blame the snowboarders though; I do blame myself. Things could have just been a lot different if they had decided to park themselves another 10 feet up.

The problem comes when you actually hit someone, it'll be your fault not theirs. I hate people camping out on a trail as much as anyone and I also hate parents who bring their kids on trails they have no business being on because both create dangerous situations. Unfortunately, as the uphill rider / skier you are the one responsible for avoiding them.