Snorting heroin thread, edited six years later. Why not just delete?

[lxskllr]

Sigh...

Duplicate post. I wish it were more obvious when the information actually gets sent :^/

 

[lxskllr]

I find their no self incrimination rule very interesting. Pathetic that a site where former addicts are trying to convince current addicts to get off the junk has to have a rule like that to protect their members. Gotta love the focus of our war on drugs.

I'd be curious to know why the rule got put in place.

 

[ShawnD1]

I'd be curious to know why the rule got put in place.

Records of things you say and do can be used against you in court. It's best to be vague. You do "that thing" to "that guy". You know, in that place with the stuff?

It's a lot more incriminating to ask someone for something exact like phencyclidine. It would go quite well with the racemic 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine. It's for my friend Joe Walsh who lives at 123 sycamore avenue in Albany New York postal code 324234

 

[lxskllr]

Records of things you say and do can be used against you in court. It's best to be vague. You do "that thing" to "that guy". You know, in that place with the stuff?

It's a lot more incriminating to ask someone for something exact like phencyclidine. It would go quite well with the racemic 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine. It's for my friend Joe Walsh who lives at 123 sycamore avenue in Albany New York postal code 324234

Yea, I can dig that, but the system they have now is pretty transparent. I'd think if it got to court, saying you were just bullshitting would work as well as the silly system they're currently using :^D It does make sense to not use real names and specific places though.

 

[Colt45]

I'm sure that's theoretically possible at first, but once your addiction gets to the point where the addiction itself takes priority over the income-generating means to enable those suggestions, it seems like the addict would just devolve into feeding the addiction at any cost. I mean, if you can't hold down a job because you're fucked up all the time, or trying to be, then its probably hard to pay for the good stuff and keep things clean, right?

Heroin just doesn't strike me as something that people can do "recreationally" for any significant length of time and still remain functional. Whether or not my statement is correct, it's probably true that there are significantly more dysfunctional heroin addicts than there are those that have remained functional.

It's pretty awful stuff, from what I gather, and I'm not sure its productive to advocate keeping the habit in check as a long term solution. Probably best to not start at all, or get help before you're totally gone.

Opiates in general aren't terribly bad for health, sure you can OD, and you get constipated, etc...

The main problem for junkies, is the artificial inflation of opiate value, due to it being illegal. I'd like to think that at least a portion of them could live a semblance of a normal life, if they were on a dope dole. Should be able to manage to work part time or something, at the least.

I'm sure there are opioid dependent doctors and pharmacists out there, that get on fine, more or less, due to lack of a financial impact. Having a decent job and education, and not wanting to lose it, I assume is helpful here too... Probably leads to better self control than someone that has little to lose in the first place.


Now, meth on the other hand... crystallized evil.

 

[ShawnD1]

Now, meth on the other hand... crystallized evil.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/020801-speed.htm

A spokesperson for the U.S. Air Force Surgeon-General's Office in Washington confirmed pilots are given the stimulant Dexedrine, generically known as dextroamphetamine, to stay alert during combat missions in Afghanistan.

Pilots refer to Dexedrine as "go-pills." The sleeping pills they are given, called Ambien (zolpidem) and Restoril (temazepam), are referred to as "no-go pills."

"When fatigue could be expected to degrade air crew performance, they are given Dexedrine in 10 mg doses," air force spokeswoman Betty-Anne Mauger told The Star.

:hmm:

Dexedrine is the pussy version of meth because it lacks a methyl group. Real men use the real thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desoxyn

 

[Locut0s]

I knew a guy that used heroin to get off coke. It worked, and he quit both when he went to the state pen. Of course that was after the bullet holes in the back of his car, and few arrests for petty offenses....

I worked with another guy that permanently quit heroin. He was ditched at a hospital in Baltimore, but they couldn't bring him back. No big loss in that case. He was a piece of shit, even without the drug issues.

Isn't that like using using gasoline to put out a fire? Never done any drugs to speak of but I've always thought that heroin had a much worse reputation than coke. Both are addicting but I though heroin was by FAR more so. As in people can do recreational coke if they have things together and are strong willed but heroin is just a downwards spiral. At least this is what I'd always thought.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Isn't that like using using gasoline to put out a fire? Never done any drugs to speak of but I've always thought that heroin had a much worse reputation than coke. Both are addicting but I though heroin was by FAR more so. As in people can do recreational coke if they have things together and are strong willed but heroin is just a downwards spiral. At least this is what I'd always thought.

I'm not an expert but I believe over the short term coke is worse, but heroin is more likely to ruin your life in the long run. Coke does more harm to you physically, most dope users just fuck their lives up by chasing 24/7.

 

[Sea Moose]

I'm not an expert but I believe over the short term coke is worse, but heroin is more likely to ruin your life in the long run. Coke does more harm to you physically, most dope users just fuck their lives up by chasing 24/7.

no, your not an expert. But you give your opinion anyway.

 

[Locut0s]

no, your not an expert. But you give your opinion anyway.

?? What's wrong with that if it's prefaces as it was with "I'm not an expert" A.K.A this is what I've heard, for some reason I've always thought... etc etc etc....

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

no, your not an expert. But you give your opinion anyway.

This is a discussion board, not a knowledge exchange. I'm free to offer my opinion on anything I choose, and I never claimed to be an authority (the contrary, in fact).

 

[Rifter]

that thread is fucked.... thats all i can say about that.

 

[Sea Moose]

This is a discussion board, not a knowledge exchange. I'm free to offer my opinion on anything I choose, and I never claimed to be an authority (the contrary, in fact).

well played

 

[ShawnD1]

I've always thought that heroin had a much worse reputation than coke

That's probably because it is worse than coke.

link 1
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Cocaine is strikingly similar to caffeine. For the most part you can just stop taking it and that's the end of it. You'll still want it, and you'll do really stupid things to get it ($5 for a starbucks coffee), but you won't die without it.
nice short article

 

[Colt45]

It's more addictive than coke, but coke has worse health effects.

 

[meltdown75]

coke is bad, mmmk?

 

[syrillus]

Marked for later perusal.

 

[lxskllr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QkcAO6b8E&feature=related

 

[Blackjack200]

I've never used, but I've read a substantial amount about Heroin.

It's less addictive than ciggarettes and less toxic than alcohol. It should be legal.

There are lots of people out there that use Heroin recreationally, and you'll never know who they are. They are careful to dose themselves so they don't become addicted.

 

[SunSamurai]

Drugs are bad, mmkay?

 

[SunSamurai]

This is a discussion board, not a knowledge exchange. I'm free to offer my opinion on anything I choose, and I never claimed to be an authority (the contrary, in fact).

Good thing for you.

 

[ChanHo78]

I've never used, but I've read a substantial amount about Heroin.

It's less addictive than ciggarettes and less toxic than alcohol. It should be legal.

There are lots of people out there that use Heroin recreationally, and you'll never know who they are. They are careful to dose themselves so they don't become addicted.

yup and there are a lot of people that spiral out of control, od, and die. I guess you don't know unless you try it what effect it can have on you... That is a steep learning curve though :/

 

[ShawnD1]

yup and there are a lot of people that spiral out of control, od, and die. I guess you don't know unless you try it what effect it can have on you... That is a steep learning curve though :/

If it's anything like those Tylenol 4's I was given after I had my wisdom teeth taken out, keep it the hell away from me.

Oh and Rush Limbaugh is an addicted to opiates. He's still functional but he's a hardcore asshole. The jury is still out on whether or not it's his drug problems that caused this.