Snipers' head shots had to kill terrorists simultaneously to prevent explosions

Specop 007

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NICE frickin shooting!
It coincides with the article I had posted earlier about stopping IED's by using snipers to cover a high risk area.
Seems our snipers are REALLY stepping up to the plate in this war to provide a multitude of services outside what one would think is the normal parameters of snipers.

And lastly....
GET SOME!

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Early on a warm summer morning, a few hours before traffic began to fill the streets, a 16-man SAS patrol took up ambush positions around a Baghdad house, writes Sean Rayment.

The soldiers had been told that the house was a being used as a base by insurgents - and up to three suicide bombers were expected to leave it later that morning.

Dressed in explosive vests, they were fully equipped to hit a number of locations around the city. The bombers' targets were thought to be cafes and restaurants frequented by members of the Iraqi security forces.

The intelligence was regarded as "high grade" and came from an Iraqi agent who had been nurtured by members of the British Secret Intelligence Service, also known as MI6, for several months.

Expectation among the 16 soldiers, attached to Task Force Black (TFB), the secret American and British special forces unit based in the Iraqi capital, was high. Each member of the four four-man groups was a veteran of many missions where the intelligence promised much - only to deliver little.

The plan for Operation Marlborough was simple: allow the three suspected bombers to leave the house and get into the street, then kill them with head shots from the four sniper teams. Each team was equipped with L115A .338 sniper rifles, capable of killing at up to 1,000 yards.

The soldiers, liaising earlier with their commanders, had considered the option of entering the house and killing the terrorists - but that plan was regarded as too dangerous. The confines of the house would intensify the impact of any blast, killing everyone inside.

The SAS soldiers were told that it was vital that the three bombers would have to be killed simultaneously.

If one of them was allowed to detonate a device, scores of people could be killed or injured.

In support of the covert sniper teams was a Quick Reaction Force (QRF), which would provide a dozen extra soldiers within a few minutes in an emergency. The QRF was based in a secure location nearby and a team of ammunition technical officers were on hand to defuse the bombs.

A section of Iraqi police was also attached to the operation - although they were not briefed on the detail of the attack - to deal with any crowd trouble.

Meanwhile, 2,000 feet above the city of five million inhabitants, a CIA-controlled Predator unmanned air vehicle was providing a real-time video feed back to the TFB headquarters deep inside the secure green zone.

Shortly after 8am, Arabic translators, monitoring listening devices hidden inside the house, warned the operations centre inside the militarily controlled green zone that the three terrorist were on the move. The message "stand by, stand by" was dispatched to the four teams.

As the terrorists entered the street, a volley of shots rang out and the three insurgents slumped to the ground.

Each terrorist had been killed by a single head shot - the snipers having spent the past few days rehearsing the ambush in minute detail.

The SAS troopers had been warned that only a direct head shot would guarantee that bombs would not be detonated.

Only three of the four snipers fired, the fourth was to act as a back-up in case one of the weapons jammed or a sniper lost sight of his target.

The message that the terrorists had been killed was sent back to the SAS headquarters and the troops moved forward to check the bodies for life. As they gingerly approached it became brutally apparent that the .338 calibre round - the biggest rifle bullet used by the Army - had done its job.

Operation Marlborough was hailed as a complete success and one of the rare occasions on which the coalition has been able to deliver a decisive blow against suicide bombers.
 

arsbanned

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Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Working on being a fiction writer?
 

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Freedom hating treemonger, go back to your cave!!!! You should be jailed.
 

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Grow up, no one wants to follow the vision of someone who cannot be anything other than cynical, and eternally bitter.

In another age I wonder if you'd be like that guy in the French Revolution who had that ultra-bitter publication basically hating on everything. (and later had his throat slit while he was taking a bath)
 

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Excellent. One thing about article didn't seem right

As they gingerly approached it became brutally apparent that the .338 calibre round - the biggest rifle bullet used by the Army - had done its job.


What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Grow up, no one wants to follow the vision of someone who cannot be anything other than cynical, and eternally bitter.

In another age I wonder if you'd be like that guy in the French Revolution who had that ultra-bitter publication basically hating on everything. (and later had his throat slit while he was taking a bath)

Marat? (I only know this because of a painting by Magritte <--- huge fan of Magritte, but doesn't know a thing about Marat :p)

And yes, just ignore him.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Excellent. One thing about article didn't seem right

As they gingerly approached it became brutally apparent that the .338 calibre round - the biggest rifle bullet used by the Army - had done its job.


What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338

Maybe the army doesn't use that rifle? Dunno...
 

Exsomnis

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Originally posted by: YoshiSato
What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338
You need to put down your sticky-paged copy of Jane's and quit playing Battlefield 2, when was the last time you heard of a .50 calibur sniper rifle being used in the field?
 

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Originally posted by: Exsomnis
Originally posted by: YoshiSato
What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338
You need to put down your sticky-paged copy of Jane's and quit playing Battlefield 2, when was the last time you heard of a .50 calibur sniper rifle being used in the field?

If I recall correctly in Specop 007 last article on this subject. I may be wrong tho.

Either way it was, and still is, heavily used in Afghanistan. In fact Canadian JTF2 soldiers used it to cover an operation a couple years ago. They pinned down the bad guys killing several of them and made it possible to annihilate them. In those fights they logged some of the farthest kills recorded. They also took mortar fire but they simply moved to another location and continued.

These members were recommended for the US Bronze Star (rare practice giving medals to foreign troops) twice if I recall correctly. Far as I know Canada never even responded to this (typically the medals can be awarded only with the permission of the country who's troops they belong to). That's one major thing I absolutely hate about the Canadian Forces and government in general. Totally gun shy when it comes to honouring war heroes. One soldier who was tortured in Rwanda was awarded one of our highest honours almost a decade after it happened. The poor SOB was so upset he crashed his SUV into an MP station and begged the MP on sight to use his service pistol on him. Obviously he suffered metal scars from his ordeal. I mean even the CO (Gen. Romeo Dallaire) had tried to commit suicide as well and he wasn't even tortured.
 

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yeah, IIRC, there was a post on these forums about a year or so ago about a canadian who killed a guy from 2.5KM away.

edit: here's the link to that .50
 

Exsomnis

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Aye it's a very very popular story, mostly spouted by the aforementioned armchair generals who have the sticky-paged copies of Jane's. ;) It's true, obviously, but it doesn't suddenly mean that .50 calibur sniper rifles are carried around by every sniper in the field. Might as well say they all wear red bandannas and carry knives in their mouths too, makes about as much sense.
 

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Grow up, no one wants to follow the vision of someone who cannot be anything other than cynical, and eternally bitter.

In another age I wonder if you'd be like that guy in the French Revolution who had that ultra-bitter publication basically hating on everything. (and later had his throat slit while he was taking a bath)

Marat? (I only know this because of a painting by Magritte <--- huge fan of Magritte, but doesn't know a thing about Marat :p)

And yes, just ignore him.

Er yeah... Jacques Louis David... according to your own link.

 

rudder

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Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Excellent. One thing about article didn't seem right

As they gingerly approached it became brutally apparent that the .338 calibre round - the biggest rifle bullet used by the Army - had done its job.


What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338

Overkill to say the least. Plus they are used against vehicles primarily.
 

Bumrush99

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Awesome article. Nice to see the hard work pay off and save some lives in the process.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Exsomnis
Originally posted by: YoshiSato
What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338
You need to put down your sticky-paged copy of Jane's and quit playing Battlefield 2, when was the last time you heard of a .50 calibur sniper rifle being used in the field?

I hace read articles about it being used as recently as Somalia.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Just a bitter bitter person arent you?
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Excellent. One thing about article didn't seem right

As they gingerly approached it became brutally apparent that the .338 calibre round - the biggest rifle bullet used by the Army - had done its job.


What about the Barrett .50BMG sniper rifle? That's bigger than a .338

Maybe the army doesn't use that rifle? Dunno...

I'm pretty sure the article is talking about British snipers, not American. AFAIK, American snipers use the .308 and occasionally the .50 cal, but not the .338.
 

imported_Aelius

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SAS = Special Air Service

They are the original Special Forces that all other Special Forces are more or less modeled off of. They are in fact British.
 

BuckNaked

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Originally posted by: Aelius
SAS = Special Air Service

They are the original Special Forces that all other Special Forces are more or less modeled off of. They are in fact British.

Australia and New Zealand also have there own SAS Troops, but I would guess that these are most likely the British troops being discussed.

.50 caliber sniper rifles are in service with most armies... Here is some info here...

The .338 Lapua allows you to 'reach out and touch someone' in a more portable platform than most of the current .50's...
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Just a bitter bitter person arent you?

Nah, they just hate it when "freedom fighters" are killed by the "real terrorists."

Actually, they might have been simply applying sick (dead baby jokes) humor even if it is what most Bush bashers are thinking.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Mickey Eye
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Then it turned out the "terrorists" were students on their way to class and were carrying backpacks stuffed with books. Oh well. Then it was time for coffee!

Grow up, no one wants to follow the vision of someone who cannot be anything other than cynical, and eternally bitter.

In another age I wonder if you'd be like that guy in the French Revolution who had that ultra-bitter publication basically hating on everything. (and later had his throat slit while he was taking a bath)

Marat? (I only know this because of a painting by Magritte <--- huge fan of Magritte, but doesn't know a thing about Marat :p)

And yes, just ignore him.

Er yeah... Jacques Louis David... according to your own link.

:confused:

Weird. I could have sworn Magritte did this, and that is even how I found it. Google searched Death of Marat Magritte in google.