Sniped again on EBAY!!!!

[HonkeyDonk]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
I know about sniping and how it works on Ebay but never really thought that much about it because I don't buy on there that much. My last two deals have been last second bids where the Sniper wins 2-5 seconds by a $1.00 increment.
One major downside to this is that I'm currently on dialup (switching over to cable when I move next year)

Interested in knowing what programs are out there that will allow me to win at the last second like these other snipers.
Any other information you guys can provide that would be helpful will be greatly appreciated.

OP, you do realize that even though he only "beat" you buy a $1.00, he probably really beat you by much more than that. So even if you had 1 minute left and saw that he was winning by a $1.00, he probably had a proxy bid of like $50 more (could be more or less)...the point is, you didn't lose by a $1.00 realistically speaking.

 

[DBL]

People here who dismiss sniping need to understand the term "auction fever". By placing your bid early, you give others the motivation for entering a higher price then THEY were willing to pay. So, you see, it's really not as much about your maximum price as it is about the other person?s maximum price. Get it?

 

[SuperFreaky]

esnipe.com

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DBL
People here who dismiss sniping need to understand the term "auction fever". By placing your bid early, you give others the motivation for entering a higher price then THEY were willing to pay. So, you see, it's really not as much about your maximum price as it is about the other person?s maximum price. Get it?

Auction fever is for n00bs. Get over it. Figure out your maximum prior to bidding and then you won't be disappointed if you don't win. It's not rocket science and it's not as though you can't find 50 more of the same item for the same price. Unless you are bidding on rare or collectible items in which case you should have done your homework prior to bidding anyway and known what the item is worth.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DBL
People here who dismiss sniping need to understand the term "auction fever". By placing your bid early, you give others the motivation for entering a higher price then THEY were willing to pay. So, you see, it's really not as much about your maximum price as it is about the other person?s maximum price. Get it?

Auction fever is for n00bs. Get over it. Figure out your maximum prior to bidding and then you won't be disappointed if you don't win. It's not rocket science and it's not as though you can't find 50 more of the same item for the same price. Unless you are bidding on rare or collectible items in which case you should have done your homework prior to bidding anyway and known what the item is worth.

the noobs that posess auction fever don't realize it's for noobs. This is why sniping is such a great tool

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Yeah, jeez, EBay uses proxy bidding so it'll only bid as much of your bid maximum as is required to win. Bid that amt initially....if you win, great, if not, then it was going to cost more than you wanted to spend so no biggie.

The sniping service places the bid at a time you specify while the proxy bidding places your bid immediately. There is a difference.

Why do you care when it places your bid? The proxy bid only places enough to make you the high bidder...no more.

Well it's kind of nice to not reveal that you are interested in the auction. The sniping service also use proxy but with the addition that you can select to place your bid with 3 sec left.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Auction fever is for n00bs. Get over it. Figure out your maximum prior to bidding and then you won't be disappointed if you don't win. It's not rocket science and it's not as though you can't find 50 more of the same item for the same price. Unless you are bidding on rare or collectible items in which case you should have done your homework prior to bidding anyway and known what the item is worth.

Is it really that hard to comprehend what I wrote? By sniping, you avoid getting outbid by those who;
1) do not snipe
2) do not enter their maximum bid
These two categories make up a sizable percentage of the eBay population. IMO, any moderate eBay user who does not employ a sniping strategy of some sort is in fact a "n00b", as you put it.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: mcvickj

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed?

Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.

yes but the snipe does it at the last second so ebay cant raise teh proxy

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DBL
People here who dismiss sniping need to understand the term "auction fever". By placing your bid early, you give others the motivation for entering a higher price then THEY were willing to pay. So, you see, it's really not as much about your maximum price as it is about the other person?s maximum price. Get it?

Auction fever is for n00bs. Get over it. Figure out your maximum prior to bidding and then you won't be disappointed if you don't win. It's not rocket science and it's not as though you can't find 50 more of the same item for the same price. Unless you are bidding on rare or collectible items in which case you should have done your homework prior to bidding anyway and known what the item is worth.

What I bolded above is you sidestepping the point. It still exists. People are still able to change their minds because you give them time to do so. Prices are raised higher than they need to be, even if you made up your own mind. Even if you win, you end up paying more, regardless of your willingness to do so. There's no disadvantage to sniping unless you don't have the time for it. The advantage is that you pay the absolute minimum possible.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Auction fever is for n00bs. Get over it. Figure out your maximum prior to bidding and then you won't be disappointed if you don't win. It's not rocket science and it's not as though you can't find 50 more of the same item for the same price. Unless you are bidding on rare or collectible items in which case you should have done your homework prior to bidding anyway and known what the item is worth.

Is it really that hard to comprehend what I wrote? By sniping, you avoid getting outbid by those who;
1) do not snipe
2) do not enter their maximum bid
These two categories make up a sizable percentage of the eBay population. IMO, any moderate eBay user who does not employ a sniping strategy of some sort is in fact a "n00b", as you put it.

I'm sure I've beat out snipers with my method. I don't see that sniping is any different than waiting until the closing seconds and placing your maximum bid. If their bid is higher than mine I don't mind. Like I said above, I bid the maximum I am willing to pay for the item. If someone outbids me then so be it.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Anubis
yes but the snipe does it at the last second so ebay cant raise teh proxy

AFAIK, Ebay pretty much settles proxy bids instantaneously. Sniping will not save you from someone who has a higher bid than you.

If nothing else, using a sniping service does the following:
Allows you to change your mind without retracting your bid.
Removes the temptation to watch the final seconds of the auction and raise your bid $1 at a time until suddenly you're paying a lot more than you wanted.
Some programs also give you bid management (for instance esnipe allows you to group multiple auctions and when one wins, all subsequent bids get cancelled).

This is well worth doing, but it's not magic. You won't get everything cheap just because you have a sniping program.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: mcvickj

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed?

Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.

yes but the snipe does it at the last second so ebay cant raise teh proxy

Well, I can see how that would be an advantage in some situations. However, what happens if 10 people are using sniping programs? Does ebay automatically go with the highest bid regardless? I guess it still just comes down to who is willing to pay the most.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: mcvickj

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed?

Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.

yes but the snipe does it at the last second so ebay cant raise teh proxy

I am pretty sure ebay would give it to the first bidder even if the proxy doesn't do it on time..... I am also pretty sure that when you confirm teh bid, there is some if statement that checks to see if it is higher than the proxie....

 

[mrchan]

Originally posted by: CorCentral

Originally posted by: Toasthead
bid the MOST yer willing to pay

if you lose, then its no biggie, you werent gonna pay that much anyway
Ive never understood sniping

Well, when you get into bidding on certain collectible items and you see the same people bidding high on purpose just to hike up the price because they know you want the item. My situation has NOTHING to do with me bidding as high as I can. I DO, I always do. I'm one that tries to wait 'till the last 5min and bid $50.-$100. more than the current bid. It does'nt matter though because that sniper will just bid $1.00 higher at the last second and win the item because I cannot bid fast enough because of the Dial up Dilemma.

The point isn't to bid $50-$100 higher than the current bid, the point is to bid AS MUCH AS YOU ARE WILLING to pay. If you were willing to pay $101 more, than you should have bid it.

 

[l Xes l]

im pro sniper... i use the last .5 sec to bid.. no kidding.. i start pacing myself and refresh browser starting from 30sec.. down to .5sec... MUHAHAHA
i once got a hate mail because i won these set of rims and there was so many bidders... haha

 

[1sikbITCH]

Until they ban sniping, it's a perfectly legal tactic.

Bidding too early gets people's adrenalin pumping and they start trying to outbid you at all costs. Best to just wait till the end and bid your max.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: krnxpride83
im pro sniper... i use the last .5 sec to bid.. no kidding.. i start pacing myself and refresh browser starting from 30sec.. down to .5sec... MUHAHAHA
i once got a hate mail because i won these set of rims and there was so many bidders... haha

Newsflash, if someone proxy bids high enough, they'll outbid you even if you attempt to bid .5 seconds to go, which is BS as we all know as there are no .5 second increments.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: mcvickj

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: RaDragon
I thought proxy bids are placed as soon as another person places a bid. So, if you originally put a high bid, and someone bids below your high bid, the next amount is placed -- up to the point that someone surpasses your proxy bid.

I was almost "sniped" before, but since I was willing to go higher up, and placed that on my proxy bid, I won the auction.

I assumed this was how it worked as well. Is there some time-window where the maximum proxy bid would not automatically be placed?

Nope. AFAIK as soon as someone bids eBay will automatically bid for you. It does not wait.

yes but the snipe does it at the last second so ebay cant raise teh proxy

Wrong! If your proxy is higher than their snipe, you will win period.

 

[dude8604]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
This is the one most everyone uses

Auction Sniper

How does it compare to eSnipe?

 

[sygyzy]

What collectibles are you bidding on?

 

[Papagayo]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
I know about sniping and how it works on Ebay but never really thought that much about it because I don't buy on there that much. My last two deals have been last second bids where the Sniper wins 2-5 seconds by a $1.00 increment.
One major downside to this is that I'm currently on dialup (switching over to cable when I move next year)

Interested in knowing what programs are out there that will allow me to win at the last second like these other snipers.
Any other information you guys can provide that would be helpful will be greatly appreciated.

Move this year..

 

[mchammer187]

don't bid early but put your proxy in within the last 20 seconds


so if an item is at $50 a sniper will bid $55 trying to but if you put in a proxy of $70 you will win for $59

the sniper will have to put in multiple bids which they don't have enough time to do since snipers tend to try to win by 1 bid

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
Other than a faster internet connection..... Anything I can do?

Bid higher.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: mchammer187
don't bid early but put your proxy in within the last 20 seconds


so if an item is at $50 a sniper will bid $55 trying to but if you put in a proxy of $70 you will win for $59

the sniper will have to put in multiple bids which they don't have enough time to do since snipers tend to try to win by 1 bid

wrong, the sniper changed his mind and put a bid of $71 instead of $55, so you lose on the proxy bid. Why do proxy bidders think that sniped bids will always be lower?

 

[jpeyton]

I don't see how winning an auction on eBay is rocket science.

1) Find item.
2) Determine absolute maximum price you are willing to pay for the item.
3) 1 minutes before the auction is over, enter that maximum price as your bid.
4) If you win, you win. If you lose, it's only because someone else wanted to pay more. It's an auction; highest bidder ALWAYS wins. Doesn't matter if they bid higher a hour before the auction ended or a second before it ended, they bid higher, PERIOD. Get over it.