SNAP Benefits Are Running Out. The Cruelty Is the Point.

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There is contigency funding the USDA has and normally would use, but for cruelty reasons, Republicans are refusing to follow the law and use it as required here.

Republicans keep showing us who they are with the acrobatics that they'll do to find money (even illegally) during a shutdown for their own priorities, like an Epstein Memorial Ballroom, but then won't use the money they legally have available (and must use) to keep food on people's tables.
 
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I'm hearing rumblings about this here in WV. The people who supported and voted for this are not happy about the situation. It's not only going to hurt children and the elderly. It's also going to hurt the economy. Cutting SNAP is a horrible idea.

 
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ch33zw1z

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I'm hearing rumblings about this here in WV. The people who supported and voted for this are not happy about the situation. It's not only going to hurt children and the elderly. It's also going to hurt the economy. Cutting SNAP is a horrible idea.


At least the leopards are getting fat? Libs owned.

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I'm hearing rumblings about this here in WV. The people who supported and voted for this are not happy about the situation. It's not only going to hurt children and the elderly. It's also going to hurt the economy. Cutting SNAP is a horrible idea.

What did they think voting for the party that always talks about cutting benefits would entail?
 

ch33zw1z

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What did they think voting for the party that always talks about cutting benefits would entail?

There’s the rub, their media is telling them the evil demonrats want to keep feeding illegals with their hard earned money.

Obviously false, but it’s always “insert socialism for me, but not for thee” - then surprise surprise you were lied to but that’s also the demonrats fault, they made the GOP do it! Forced their lies right outta them! Its not my fault!!!!
 
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There’s the rub, their media is telling them the evil demonrats want to keep feeding illegals with their hard earned money.

Obviously false, but it’s always “insert socialism for me, but not for thee” - then surprise surprise you were lied to but that’s also the demonrats fault, they made the GOP do it! Forced their lies right outta them! Its not my fault!!!!
Yes. In short, the environment we live in and communicate in create vibes that drive political choices moreso than any particular policy.
 
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hal2kilo

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There’s the rub, their media is telling them the evil demonrats want to keep feeding illegals with their hard earned money.

Obviously false, but it’s always “insert socialism for me, but not for thee” - then surprise surprise you were lied to but that’s also the demonrats fault, they made the GOP do it! Forced their lies right outta them! Its not my fault!!!!
Hell, I just watched official state propaganda on my cable about 30 minutes ago. Need a tax strike. Wake up folks!
 
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BonzaiDuck

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This is cruelity at it's finest.
It's part of an American mythology. This mythology probably includes folklore of the Old West, people striking out on their own through the wilderness. It feeds an idea that civilization needs to encourage a jungle within. The strong survive, the weak shall perish.

There has always been so much food abundance in America that it inspires a person's anger thinking about what is being done.

Another case came from the local papers or maybe the LA Times within the last couple years. A man in his late 20s (and a white guy, at that!) enters a grocery store, fills his cart and goes to the check-out counter with food stamps. The woman behind the counter berates him in front of his son, insinuating that nobody, no matter how desperate, deserves those food stamps.

I can't exactly imagine how it would unfold, but this is the stuff that civil wars and rebellions are made from. You would expect this mean-spiritedness in some 19th century novel like Les Miserables. It is barbaric that we find it in the 21st century.
 

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Anyone ever looks at how awful things have become and think maybe just maybe this will be an opportunity for the left to make substantial inroads in the next few years? Like maybe it has to get worse before it can get better kind of thing?
 

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We have to starve
Anyone ever looks at how awful things have become and think maybe just maybe this will be an opportunity for the left to make substantial inroads in the next few years? Like maybe it has to get worse before it can get better kind of thing?
2016 removed that beam from my eye.

46%+ of US voters fall outside of objective observable reality, just as Karl Rove directed it decades ago.

This isn't the 5th year of the Trump Regime, it's the 44th year of the Reagan Revolution.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Anyone ever looks at how awful things have become and think maybe just maybe this will be an opportunity for the left to make substantial inroads in the next few years? Like maybe it has to get worse before it can get better kind of thing?
That's plausible, with the metaphor of the pendulum. The problem with the American psyche still derives from the Great Stalin panic, the incessant propaganda that you can destroy an idea by military force. We don't want to live in an authoritarian regime, and that can swing either Left or Right.

Our culture is steeped in this myth about "socialism and the Socialiss'" It should be instead steeped in the idea of Rule of Law, the Constitution and Democracy -- and give some shrift to "Democratic socialism."

But we don't need to create a jungle in clvilization that's more like the jungle outside of it. Eventually "they" -- the Right -- can argue that we (the Left and the workers) don't do all the work anymore. We've been replaced by AI. But which way do you want it to go? Toward cruelty? or toward another ideal?
 

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In the United States one out of every 8 people you meet every day is poor enough to require government food (snap) assistance .
Trump builds his ballroom while his policies literally make people starve.
Tax cuts for the wealthy. :confused:
 
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In the United States one out of every 8 people you meet every day is poor enough to require government food (snap) assistance .
Trump builds his ballroom while his policies literally make people starve.
Tax cuts for the wealthy. :confused:
And we're spending billions to build an internal army currently being used to deport non-criminal aliens.
 
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Under court order, the Trump administration will partially follow the law and partially fund SNAP in November. The money to fund SNAP fully is available. Until judges start sending appointees to jail for contempt, the lawlessness will continue.
 

Drach

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Under court order, the Trump administration will partially follow the law and partially fund SNAP in November. The money to fund SNAP fully is available. Until judges start sending appointees to jail for contempt, the lawlessness will continue.
Cut the food you eat in half this month. That's the cruelty this administration is doling out.
Ask your 5 year old to half his eating.
I have 2 grandchildren that rely on this. I give every dollar I can every month but I can't fill the gap.
 

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Democrats better be fucking serious about the ACA subsidies and Medicaid and not give an inch here because Walmart is about to start leaning hard on the GOP douchebags it owns in DC. Something like 25% of SNAP dollars are spent at Walmart.
 

ch33zw1z

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Democrats better be fucking serious about the ACA subsidies and Medicaid and not give an inch here because Walmart is about to start leaning hard on the GOP douchebags it owns in DC. Something like 25% of SNAP dollars are spent at Walmart.

Corporate welfare is a revolving door
 
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Pohemi

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It's not only the SNAP fuckery and defying court orders that's happening here, either. There's a compounded effort to push people over the edge (ie starve them).

There has always been so much food abundance in America that it inspires a person's anger thinking about what is being done.

A man in his late 20s (and a white guy, at that!) enters a grocery store, fills his cart and goes to the check-out counter with food stamps. The woman behind the counter berates him in front of his son, insinuating that nobody, no matter how desperate, deserves those food stamps.
Whether I was the one using the food stamps, or a bystander...I'd have had that woman's job.

Anyone ever looks at how awful things have become and think maybe just maybe this will be an opportunity for the left to make substantial inroads in the next few years? Like maybe it has to get worse before it can get better kind of thing?
That occasionally sneaks into my thoughts briefly...until I remember how many tens of millions of cultists have revealed themselves in this country, not to mention the unaffiliated racists, nationalists, fundamentalists, evangelicals, and so on and so forth that still support what is happening, and will continue to do so until it lands on their personal doorstep.

And we're spending billions to build an internal army currently being used to deport non-criminal aliens.
And detain citizens who look too dark, or even white people that just annoy the ICE imbeciles enough.
 

Drach

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I just spent 3 hours in line for food assistance. I got 5 apples, 4 onions, a small box of strawberries, 4 cucumbers and 5 carrots .
I'm not complaining about what I received.
There were probably 150 elderly people in line.
I went on senior day.