Smoking vs. Drinking

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Vic
I can't agree with this. All the same risks associated with nicotine use are still present (addiction, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc etc) but the lung cancer risk is just replaced with oral/mouth/esophogeal stomach cancers.

Plus, chewing is just downright nasty.

It's not replaced with those... those are already present when smoking.

Sigh... perhaps "replaced" was the wrong word. How about changed risk percentages? Smokers are more likely to get lung cancer, chewers those other cancers. Plus, chew usually has higher levels of nicotine, so there's more risks associated with that (like heart disease).

Yeah, sorry to nit pick. I only mentioned it because the OP did not seem aware of all the risks.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: deepred98
i guess the point of my post was to see if one cigar causes more damage than say, one beer or a shot of whiskey.

Okay. My answer to that would be: unlikely.

Cigars seem to be less addictive too. I know a lot of people (myself included) who can enjoy the occasional cigar with a drink with no desire to have one all the time.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: deepred98

i guess the point of my post was to see if one cigar causes more damage than say, one beer or a shot of whiskey.

i'd say the 'damage' of both is pretty negligible

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: deepred98
i guess the point of my post was to see if one cigar causes more damage than say, one beer or a shot of whiskey.

Okay. My answer to that would be: unlikely.

Cigars seem to be less addictive too. I know a lot of people (myself included) who can enjoy the occasional cigar with a drink with no desire to have one all the time.

so one cigar is less harmful than one beer or are you saying neither is harmful in the longterm (assuming moderation ie not drinking everyday or not smoking everyday)?

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: sash1

Originally posted by: deepred98

i guess the point of my post was to see if one cigar causes more damage than say, one beer or a shot of whiskey.

i'd say the 'damage' of both is pretty negligible

okay what if one smoked one cigar a week and another drank one serving of alcohol?
would either experiance any ill effects in the long-term?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: deepred98
i guess the point of my post was to see if one cigar causes more damage than say, one beer or a shot of whiskey.

Okay. My answer to that would be: unlikely.

Cigars seem to be less addictive too. I know a lot of people (myself included) who can enjoy the occasional cigar with a drink with no desire to have one all the time.

so one cigar is less harmful than one beer or are you saying neither is harmful in the longterm (assuming moderation ie not drinking everyday or not smoking everyday)?

I'm saying that I don't think either would be harmful in the long-term, assuming this level of moderation.

 

[bctbct]

smoking without a doubt.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: aplefka

I recently quit but I still enjoy a dip every now and again. Just last week while I was home for the holiday I went through a can of Skoal Citrus Blend and half a can of Cope Long.

I can go through about a can of skoal in a day, but I try to make one last at least two days. However, here in Canada are cans are half the size and made entirely of plastic. I've got a can of apple skoal from the States, it's massive, and the lid is actually tin (we call the cans "tins" here).

Haha that's badass. I was having this discussion with a few friends while back home last week about the different names we've heard and I think tins is my favorite. Some of the other names were just stupid. If I was your ATOTSS I would have sent you a few real cans of Skoal from here in the states.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Smoking is in all cases detrimental to health.

That said, I fvckin LOVE to smoke .... but, I've tried quitting again (with Nicorette gum) ... been 7 days now ... so far so good .... ARRRRRG!

 

[imported_LoKe]

Originally posted by: aplefka
Haha that's badass. I was having this discussion with a few friends while back home last week about the different names we've heard and I think tins is my favorite. Some of the other names were just stupid. If I was your ATOTSS I would have sent you a few real cans of Skoal from here in the states.

Fuck! I've been trying to get my hands on some tins, but all I can get people to send me is Silver Creek and Kodiak (Mind you, Kodiak has some badass appy).

How much does a sleeve cost you over there? Or single tins?

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: LoKe

Originally posted by: aplefka
Haha that's badass. I was having this discussion with a few friends while back home last week about the different names we've heard and I think tins is my favorite. Some of the other names were just stupid. If I was your ATOTSS I would have sent you a few real cans of Skoal from here in the states.

Fuck! I've been trying to get my hands on some tins, but all I can get people to send me is Silver Creek and Kodiak (Mind you, Kodiak has some badass appy).

How much does a sleeve cost you over there? Or single tins?

I've never gone after a sleeve but a single can of Skoal is $6.04 at most places if I recall correctly.