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Smoking! Panasonic TH-50PX75U 50" 720p Flat Panel Plasma HDTV 747.42 freeship

Not a bad deal at all.

Yes, people still pay for 720p's. Like it's some HUGE difference in comparison to 1080p... lol.

Only if you have HDTV larger than 52".

And you save $300-$400.
 
Actually its a big difference between 720p and 1080p on a tv that huge. I notice a huge difference on 24inch monitor even.
 
Great TV ive had mine for almost 2 years now, excellent picture quality. Not buy the 1080 hype. It all depends on size, viewing distance, your eyes.
 
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Yes, people still pay for 720p's. Like it's some HUGE difference in comparison to 1080p... lol.

Only if you have HDTV larger than 52".
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People still pay money for TVs less than 50"? Just tro...er, kidding.

FWIW, I see a *very* noticeable difference between 720p and 1080p on my 50" plasma, and I'm sitting a good 10 feet back. Of course, I'm looking for it, whereas Joe Schmoe off the street likely doesn't know what to look for.

I'm not saying this isn't a good deal. I'm just saying, if you're in the market for a TV these days, you might as well get one that's ready for things you might add later on (blu-ray, consoles, etc).


Originally posted by: srp49ers
Great TV ive had mine for almost 2 years now, excellent picture quality. Not buy the 1080 hype. It all depends on size, viewing distance, your eyes.
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SOURCE resolution affects it the most I think. 720p on a 1080p looks bad. 1080 on a 720 looks fine. The reasons should be obvious.

But yeah, the setup for viewing does play a part here.

 
If I go into best buy and check out their Blu Ray showings on all TV's, standing about 5 ft from the set then I can indeed tell a difference. But at home, sitting about 10 ft away from my 52" Samsung 720p plasma and comparing to my other 52" Samsung 1080p 52" plasma, I notice very little difference if any at all. Maybe it's my eyes... or the fact that I don't watch Blu Ray at home b/c I think it's a tad overrated and overpriced at the moment. Or just maybe I'm one of those Joe Schmoe's you were talkin about lol.
 
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Maybe it's my eyes... or the fact that I don't watch Blu Ray at home b/c I think it's a tad overrated and overpriced at the moment.
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I think it's that. Blu Ray is really about the only true 1080p content out there at the moment. Even the highest def channels over air (ESPNHD for example, etc) are still 1080i. Most "HD" TV channels are 720i/p.

Blu Ray movies look MUCH sharper than other content on my plasma (50" Samsung)...they really show off what the unit can do. I think a lot of it right now is waiting for the source content to catch up to what full 1080p TVs can do.
 
I highly recommend The BBC Natural History Collection, featuring Planet Earth on blu-ray. I got mine for $70 around, included Ganges, Wild China, Galapagos and Planet Earth in one, it really shows how great 1080p looks on right setup. Its like 24 hours or more of pure nature bliss.

I don't buy the "viewing distance" argument. Its more of what you get used to over anything else. Watch movies/tv in 720p or 1080p, then like me try to watch a normal dvd after a year and its just terrible, yet you don't remember it being that bad, but it is compared to what you got used to seeing.
 
Originally posted by: imaheadcase
Actually its a big difference between 720p and 1080p on a tv that huge. I notice a huge difference on 24inch monitor even.
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Viewing 720p or 1080p content on the same screen is not the same comparison as viewing 1080p content on a 720p or 1080p screen.
 
Great deal. As soon as you post something like this, you're going to get the crowd coming in and criticizing. But it is common knowledge among those who truly HAVE knowledge on the subject, that the average consumer does not see a tremendous difference in the resolution from a typical viewing distance on a TV this size. I have a friend who was saw a great deal on a 720p plasma last year, and he was scared to buy it because the salesman was telling him how badly he needed 1080p. But I told him it was a great price, he'd love the tv, and he'd never miss the difference. He now says it was one of the best purchases he's ever made.

If you are a videophile, you don't want a 720p tv. If you are the average consumer, you won't notice a difference, you'll love the picture, and you'll save a good bit of money.

And as for Blu-Ray, 720p tv's show Blu-Ray movies VERY nicely. Of course it's not 1080p, but a Blu-Ray shown at 720p is wonderful - much better than any HD you'll watch from Comcast or Direct TV, because it's not compressed on Blu-Ray.
 
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
...I have a friend who was saw a great deal on a 720p plasma last year, and he was scared to buy it because the salesman was telling him how badly he needed 1080p. But I told him it was a great price, he'd love the tv, and he'd never miss the difference. He now says it was one of the best purchases he's ever made.

If you are a videophile, you don't want a 720p tv. If you are the average consumer, you won't notice a difference, you'll love the picture, and you'll save a good bit of money.
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Ya' know, it's not that you're wrong, but I wonder if we can take that argument so far as to not recommend buying ANY high-quality video gear.

I mean, if we take "Joe Average" consumer who can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p (and I concede many people can't)...how likely is it that they suffer from some combination of of a TV placed at the wrong height with poor lighting conditions too far away from the seating watching heavily compressed/non-HD content over non-HDMI/DVI cables while toggling the incorrect aspect ratio?

I wouldn't be surprised if the average consumer could be sold a 60" widescreen 480p TV (if such a thing was on the market) hooked up to a DVD player and consider it "one of the best purchases he ever made" if he's coming from a 20-something inch SD CRT set.

All that said, for the types of people who actually use 1080p content correctly, I think a 1080p set makes a lot of sense. I've not seen anything else in the home space that can blow people away quite as much as good Blu-Ray content on a 1080p set.
 
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
If I go into best buy and check out their Blu Ray showings on all TV's, standing about 5 ft from the set then I can indeed tell a difference. But at home, sitting about 10 ft away from my 52" Samsung 720p plasma and comparing to my other 52" Samsung 1080p 52" plasma, I notice very little difference if any at all. Maybe it's my eyes... or the fact that I don't watch Blu Ray at home b/c I think it's a tad overrated and overpriced at the moment. Or just maybe I'm one of those Joe Schmoe's you were talkin about lol.
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Yep...

I got an optoma DLP projector Got it around the 90 inches...

Anyway, I can't tell the difference and I sit 20' from the screen. 720P is the only way to go anything more is just a waste of bandwidth. But maybe it's just my eyes? Screw Blue Ray, get yourself a media tank!

 
Also remember 95% of all your Xbox 360 and PS3 games are all 720p. (maybe the next generation will handle 1080p gaming?)

With a very few small exceptions, the rest are just upconverted.

I didn't realize this before I purchased my last 1080p set. I probably would have been better off with a set that played my console games at native res.
 
I am one of those people who will pay for 1080p. I was even a very earlier adopter of Blu-Ray, and I have both BD and HD-DVD movies (about 100 total). So it's not that I dojn't sympathize with the videophiles - I'm borderline, myself. It's just that I'm aware of how the general public sees the difference, and how much they're willing to pay for that difference.

I live with a wife, a 7 year old daughter, and a live-in nanny. I am the only one of the three who will turn on the cable box and watch tv in high definition. All of the other three prefer to just watch the analog cable fed directly into the tv, rather than bother with the second remote and changing inputs just to watch in higher def. It's hilarious, and it drives me crazy - I can barely enjoy standard def tv nowadays, but I am the only one in the house who cares.

Not only are they not willing to pay for the difference in picture quality, they aren't even willing to change the inputs on the tv and use a different remote. It's easy for those of us who care (and have learned about the technology, and how to operate them) to forget that we don't represent the majority.
 
Originally posted by: Rio Rebel
I am one of those people who will pay for 1080p. I was even a very earlier adopter of Blu-Ray, and I have both BD and HD-DVD movies (about 100 total). So it's not that I dojn't sympathize with the videophiles - I'm borderline, myself. It's just that I'm aware of how the general public sees the difference, and how much they're willing to pay for that difference.

I live with a wife, a 7 year old daughter, and a live-in nanny. I am the only one of the three who will turn on the cable box and watch tv in high definition. All of the other three prefer to just watch the analog cable fed directly into the tv, rather than bother with the second remote and changing inputs just to watch in higher def. It's hilarious, and it drives me crazy - I can barely enjoy standard def tv nowadays, but I am the only one in the house who cares.

Not only are they not willing to pay for the difference in picture quality, they aren't even willing to change the inputs on the tv and use a different remote. It's easy for those of us who care (and have learned about the technology, and how to operate them) to forget that we don't represent the majority.
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Yep, it is amazing that some people just don't see or care about the difference. I have a 1080p monitor and I can easily see the difference, but honestly, a regular dvd played through my PS3 and upconverted looks pretty dang good. Good enough that I will not pay 5.00 to rent a blu ray most of the time- I just get the dvd from red box for 1.00. You also have to realize that even the OTA broadcast stations (which are uncompressed and way better than cable) are only 720p or 1080i. On my TV playing through a HTPC with an ATI HDTV Wonder, the 720 stations are often just as good as the 1080i stations. It really depends on how the video was produced, etc. Even blu rays that are made from older movies can be pretty poor quality unless they are converted very well. The list over at AVS Forum is pretty helpful in knowing which movies are worth getting in blu ray. Lots of good stuff here- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342
 
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