Originally posted by: Sysadmin
You know what....I believe this is true I feel much more relaxed after quitting smoking. I used to think smoking mellowed me out
Sysadmin
it's actually a proven fact. Actually, it's cortisol makes you fat too, but smoking revs up your metabolism so it keeps you thin. Funny how some of the artifical ingredients in cigs that are designed to counteract other negative effects just hurt you more. If he wants to relieve stress he should run or lift weights. Both activities burn up cortisol. In a couple weeks he'd get the same effect he does temporarily with smoking but it would be all day long. If he's in decently good health Yoga would be a great option too, just get one of the beginner tapes.
Who said anything but letting anything go. Facts doesn't stop suicidal people. Telling a depressed person that their divorce is better for them, isn't goingt o make them feel better. Telling a criminal that they can do time for a crime, doesn't stop them. See the pattern here? Go to any 12 steps program or intervention program, and facts come much later in the process.
Lets use your suggestion... he goes up to his friend, and tells him that the body releases cortisol when you smoke, and that it may relieve stress in the meantime, but in the long run it's bad. Do you really think he's going to say, "Jim, you're right!!! Thanks for telling me that." and butt out his smoke?
No addict, whether it's cigarettes, heroine, or crack, quits from being lectured, and infact it's often counterproductive.
ThePresence
Elite Member
- Nov 19, 2001
- 27,727
- 16
- 81
Definately. Get them while they're young, and don't just rattle off facts about how addictive it is. Let them know just how disgusting it is, how things will completely change from 'cool' to 'ugly, nasty, unattractive' when they grow up and get into the real world. Let them know theres nothing attractive or stylish about huddling outside in the designated smoking area at work in 10 degree weather while your coworkers are inside enjoying their climate controlled office. Let them know what it does to their teeth, how it will cause them to get wrinkles earlier.
Whatever you do, just be pro-active and vocal. Tell thier parents. You're bigger than them, so when you see them with cigarettes, take them away from them! Do whatever it takes because the longer you smoke, the harder it is to quit.
They'll thank you later, trust me.
actually I had 3 friends at school in a frat I hang out with that did just that. we were talking one day and they said they smoked to relieve stress. I explained the cortisol argument and suggested the come work out with me. They did for a couple weeks and continued smoking too (I suggested that so they wouldn't stop coming in 2 days) and after a few weeks they said they had never felt so unstressed and slowly quit smoking. The last one is down to 3 cigarettes a week, it's not gone altogeather for him but he's close and that's good enough for me. How many people save 3 lives?
Congratulations. I smoked for several years and quit a couple of years ago by finally going cold turkey. I tried quitting SO many times before that and the hardest thing to overcome was the habit of smoking after meals, smoking in the car, smoking while drinking, etc.
LOLOL right, i hope you're in sales then if you can convince 3/3 smokers to quit from just stating some facts. LOL
I didn't say it was just facts, I got them into the gym and helped show them a better way to relieve stres. gfg why are you so negative about my suggesting he brings up a well known fact to counter his friend's excuse for smoking? What would your suggestion be since you obviously know how to get smokers to quit?
the closest thing I see is your reference to a 12 step program introducing facts later and then you proceding to bash my suggestion. I see no productive suggestion from you so far at all. Make one THEN bash someone else's idea. If you don't KNOW of a way that is GUARANTEED to work then lay the fsck off my suggestion, it has worked for me and that's enough reason to suggest it. It's not like I suggested making them drink some wierd coctail or something.
I guess you suffer from selective reading huh:
What you need to do is make smoking negative... it's taken you 30 years to realize it, but if you quit for a year or two, then 'rediscover' the joy of smoking, it'll take time again for you to convince yourself to quit again. What i suggest is making that very first cheat smoke you have as something costly... you can have a cheat smoke, but you can only have a single smoke out of the pack, just enough to kill whatever craving or convincing of yourself you were able to do, but then you have to throw the pack away (don't give it a friend, don't hide it, literally crush it up and flush it down the toilet).
Eventually, you'll come to realize that the benefit of smoking doesn't outweight the cost... that every smoke is costing you $3-4. If you're serious about quitting smoking, try this method, and i guarantee you after cheating a few times, you'll come to hate the cost of smoking... cancer, emphysema, etc, people do'nt think it'll happen to them, so it's often not enough to convince somebody to quit smoking, but if you actually lose hard cash everytime you smoke, the costs become more concrete.
Burnin for about 17 years now. Went from Lucky Strike non-filters to Marlboro Lights in that timeframe, but never tried to quit. In the construction business, so it is absolutely impossible to get away from smokers. Plus I work away from home alot, so it is to the bar right after work which doesn't help.
Picked up the coffee or beer = must have a cigarette habit. I really don't think I have a strong physical additiction as have gone long periods (two weeks) without smoking and noticed no physical cravings. I smoke only in the work or bar enviroment. On average I smoke from 6am to 6pm. Don't smoke, nor have the desire to smoke, at home, on vacation, nor anywhere else but when I'm drinking at a bar or at work. It's kind of like Pavlov's dog syndrome, ring the work bell and its time to smoke. Strange, but true.
Picked up the coffee or beer = must have a cigarette habit. I really don't think I have a strong physical additiction as have gone long periods (two weeks) without smoking and noticed no physical cravings. I smoke only in the work or bar enviroment. On average I smoke from 6am to 6pm. Don't smoke, nor have the desire to smoke, at home, on vacation, nor anywhere else but when I'm drinking at a bar or at work. It's kind of like Pavlov's dog syndrome, ring the work bell and its time to smoke. Strange, but true.
This how I quit...I slowly decreased my cig intake and in a period of three years I stopped smokiing in my house,Car, and at work. Finally it dawned on me how stupid I was to be smoking in -20 windchill
Sysadmin
Squisher
Lifer
- Aug 17, 2000
- 21,204
- 66
- 91
I've got a wife that has taken up smoking after quiting for 20 years. I would think she doesn't smoke a lot. She doen't do it in the house or infront of me.
I think it's to lose weight. She'd get AIDS if she thought she'd look good for a while.
I'm as big of a smoking nazi as she is a food nazi.
My biggest complaint is the smell in the Z28 after she drives it. I'll spend half the day cleaning it and it smells like an ashtray for a couple of days and has ashes all over the black interior.
I think it's to lose weight. She'd get AIDS if she thought she'd look good for a while.
I'm as big of a smoking nazi as she is a food nazi.
My biggest complaint is the smell in the Z28 after she drives it. I'll spend half the day cleaning it and it smells like an ashtray for a couple of days and has ashes all over the black interior.
I quit smoking while in prison, and 80% of the people in there smoked. I tried a few times, and just couldn't do it, until some kid saw me light up, and said 'i knew you couldn't quit'. So of course being pissed, i tried to quit again, but at night, knowing that i had cartons of smokes in my cell (smokes really are currency in prison), i would cave in and smoke one. But i would be so pissed at myself, i would flush the rest of the pack in the toilet. And i continued to do that, every time i had a craving, i would relieve it (after much contemplation), but flush the rest of the smokes down the toilet. In a few weeks, after a few cartons, i didn't even want to smoke any more, it wasn't worth a few dollars for a single smoke.
Even years later, there were times when i cheated... but everytime i did, i threw the rest of the pack away. Even at a club, i paid $8 for a pack of smokes, had one, crushed the rest up, and tossed them away. In the last 8 years, i've had probably a dozen smokes... and the last cheat was almost 2 years ago.
People come up with excuses all the time for not wanting to quit, and the most common is because everybody around them does it. Do my method for a month... and tell me it doesn't work. You might think it's ghastly to throw a pack of good smokes away, but in time, you won't even think that... you'll come to think each smoke is so expensive, is it really worth it? Of course it's expensive to do this, but it's not much more than what it would cost you if you actually smoked the entire pack (you might go through multiple smokes a day in the beginning, but that'll quickly die off).
As they say, 'Sacrifice is giving up something good for something better.'
Sys: I won't ever let my kids see me smoke, so I have quit at home (for 13 years), quit smoking in the car about two months ago, and won't pay homage to a cig in the cold. At what rate did you decrease the cigs? One a day? I smoke about 20-30 a day.
Hardcore: My biggest problem is wanting to quit. However, it dawned on me the other day that my 13 year old needs to go to college in five years. $2500/year on cigs, though enjoyable, pays for a big chunk. Plus I'm doing myself a big favor.
Did you guys just wake up one day and decide you wanted to quit? I see this as my problem.
Hardcore: My biggest problem is wanting to quit. However, it dawned on me the other day that my 13 year old needs to go to college in five years. $2500/year on cigs, though enjoyable, pays for a big chunk. Plus I'm doing myself a big favor.
Did you guys just wake up one day and decide you wanted to quit? I see this as my problem.
Slacker
Diamond Member
- Oct 9, 1999
- 8,623
- 33
- 91
Hi
My name is slacker and I am a Nicotine addict
I have been smoke free for 66 days but I am still using, I get my chill from a pill now, Commit lozenges, they worked to break the smoke habit and ritual dependency but they cost twice as much as cigarettes :| I tried going a day without them and felt all the usual withdrawal symptoms, I am one nasty motherfcker when I am dealing with kicking nicotine :evil:
I have a weeks vacation coming up and I am going to try going through that with no nicotine and hope I can get over it before I return to work.
Everybody I work with smokes, I still have no desire for it though, I have kicked the habit, now I just have to get the monkey off my back.
My name is slacker and I am a Nicotine addict
I have been smoke free for 66 days but I am still using, I get my chill from a pill now, Commit lozenges, they worked to break the smoke habit and ritual dependency but they cost twice as much as cigarettes :| I tried going a day without them and felt all the usual withdrawal symptoms, I am one nasty motherfcker when I am dealing with kicking nicotine :evil:
I have a weeks vacation coming up and I am going to try going through that with no nicotine and hope I can get over it before I return to work.
Everybody I work with smokes, I still have no desire for it though, I have kicked the habit, now I just have to get the monkey off my back.
moshquerade
No Lifer
- Nov 1, 2001
- 61,504
- 12
- 56
i agree, nagging makes it worse. my mom has tried to kick the habit so many times i've lost count. she always goes back.Originally posted by: Sysadmin
I just got off the phone with a buddy of mine who quit smoking about the same time I did in Janurary. GUESS WHAT! He is back to smoking again
I hope he can someday kick the habit
Sysadmin
nicotine is so f'in addictive.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 23K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter