OBTW, radartest.com is not FOS. They back up everything they do. Only the people that are V1 fanboys don't like that site since he does not rate it #1.
Not speeding is preferred, but if you are on a 55mph hwy and everyone around you is going 70mph, you'd be in a dangerous situation if you stay at 55. So that would be a situation where a quality radar would be beneficial, you don't have to be a speed demon to justify owning one.Originally posted by: AncientPC
Not speeding is free?
The review of the V1 on radartest.com is "FOS"...
They say that it goes off too much... Well, you can customize it so much and even use its preset logic and advanced logic modes. I rarely hear it go off every min near a grocery store.
Why do they care so much about a dimming switch. That should have NOTHING to do with the ability of the radar detectors performance. First off, i love the auto dimmer. It is never a problem at all.
And once you use a V1 and can see the number of radars and where they are coming from you cannot go back to all the other terrible ones. V1 is the only good one worth buying.
They say that it goes off too much... Well, you can customize it so much and even use its preset logic and advanced logic modes. I rarely hear it go off every min near a grocery store.
Why do they care so much about a dimming switch. That should have NOTHING to do with the ability of the radar detectors performance. First off, i love the auto dimmer. It is never a problem at all.
And once you use a V1 and can see the number of radars and where they are coming from you cannot go back to all the other terrible ones. V1 is the only good one worth buying.
yo guys,
you can set the x50 to expert mode to see what kind of radar is hitting you, and how many signals. That's what's great about the x50. If there are multiple signals, it will display (for example):
Ka l.. X .l.
In this case, the radar is telling you it sees 3 Ka signals, 1 strong, 2 weak; and same thing for the X signal.
But expert mode is not enable out of the box, you have to turn it on.
you can set the x50 to expert mode to see what kind of radar is hitting you, and how many signals. That's what's great about the x50. If there are multiple signals, it will display (for example):
Ka l.. X .l.
In this case, the radar is telling you it sees 3 Ka signals, 1 strong, 2 weak; and same thing for the X signal.
But expert mode is not enable out of the box, you have to turn it on.
I'll do the opposite... When I was in college, I wanted/needed a radar detector for obvious reasons... (I lived in Louisiana...) But I was a broke college student and that's how I justified not getting one... Well, after picking up 3 "traffic violation" tickets... (not a single one was for driving unsafe, just maintaining a velocity over some BS hickville speed "limit" at the wrong time of night. :roll: ) I was able to come up with the $100-$150 I needed to pay it. Since that's basically a waste of money, I figured I would put my next tickets $$$ into a radar detector and I haven't regreted it since. Now I live 8hrs away from home and would never give up my radar detector...
but still, I have to watch out for laser... :disgust:
well, i don't speed anymore, and haven't had a ticket since April of 2003. I do, however, have a suspended driver's license and should NOT be driving. I drive probably once a month, but when i do HAVE to drive (army drills), i'm scared shitless. $400 for a little piece of mind is worth it IMO.
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Can you confirm how the regular mode alerts you if you have multiple signals? I tried the expert mode and really liked it, but I wanted to see how the reg. mode works as well. Unfortunately, I have not seen/heard multiple signals under the reg. mode.
ughhh...now i'm debating whether or pony up and buy the valentine 1 or pick up the escort 8500 x50
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The 8500 is actually a better unit than the V1. The detection range between the two is almost identical, but the 8500 falses less. The 8500 detects POP while the V1 doesn't. The 8500 has more distinguished tones. You can plug escort's laser jammer right into the 8500. The 8500 costs $100-150 less than the V1. In the latest Motor Trend comparison, the 8500 beat the V1.
The V1 has bogey counter...well the 8500 will also show you how many sources there are in Advanced mode and also show the strength of each source, something the V1 can't do. The V1 has directional indicators...this is a gimmick. If the source is strong you are going to slow down anyway. If it's weak, you can tell which direction it is by seeing if it's getting weaker or stronger. While the bogey counters and directional arrows look cool, I feel that they aren't worth it.
The V1 was great technology, but Escort has caught up and passed them and they are just standing still.
For radar detector tests go to speedzones.com.
The V1 has bogey counter...well the 8500 will also show you how many sources there are in Advanced mode and also show the strength of each source, something the V1 can't do. The V1 has directional indicators...this is a gimmick. If the source is strong you are going to slow down anyway. If it's weak, you can tell which direction it is by seeing if it's getting weaker or stronger. While the bogey counters and directional arrows look cool, I feel that they aren't worth it.
The V1 was great technology, but Escort has caught up and passed them and they are just standing still.
For radar detector tests go to speedzones.com.
http://www.valentine1.com/pop/
Quote from manufacturer of the POP radar guns:
As for directional indicators, have you ever had a strong K / KA signal from the rear? Oh wait you can't tell the difference. Since there isn't common usage of rear radar detectors, I speed happily on anyway.
As for radar range, it really depends on which magazine stats you follow so it's hardly accurate to base a decision purely on magazines.
Quote from manufacturer of the POP radar guns:
As for directional indicators, have you ever had a strong K / KA signal from the rear? Oh wait you can't tell the difference. Since there isn't common usage of rear radar detectors, I speed happily on anyway.
As for radar range, it really depends on which magazine stats you follow so it's hardly accurate to base a decision purely on magazines.
so where can we get one for $185.xx? i'm in the market for one, since i'll be driving alot during the july 4th weekend.
I have never seen a cop hit me from the rear. Even if he did, like I said, you can tell by the strength whether it's a threat or not. Or you can just look in your mirror since the cop has to have a visual lock on you to give a ticket. If the signal is not getting stronger or weaker, you pretty much know it's someone following you. I had a V1 for 6 months and I am confident the arrows aren't as big of a help as they are made out to be. Sure they help you quickly find out where it's coming from but you can also tell by if the signal is getting weaker or stronger.
I'm not checking web sites for range I'm checking www.speedzones.com, they are a lab that does these tests for a lot of the magazines.
About the POP, That is just Mike Valentine trying to cover his ass since he knows that the V1 cannot detect POP. The fact of the matter is that cops use it, some use it improperly, but either way it can get you busted. If you can't detect the POP, when he hits you with the "real" you are already busted. And if he busts you on the POP you still have to go to court to fight it.
Ok i could have used this yesterday... i got a ticket last night going 37 mph on a 25 mhp zone, and guessed where it is.. about 500 feet from my house!!!
AGGG!!! what a bad luck..
so where can we get it for $185.xx people???
AGGG!!! what a bad luck..
so where can we get it for $185.xx people???
POP is not accurate. Whether cops use it or not, it is NOT accurate. Because of this, it will not stand up in court if you fight the ticket. V1's arrows are very useful. It may seem like it's just a feature, but once you use the V1, you will understand how important they are. Nothing compares to the V1, and I've seen and tried them all.
just wanted to say that after a few days of having this radar detector, it's the world of a difference. Highly recommended.
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I think NJ needs to be added to the list of illegal states. So far I think the list is:
States where Radar Detectors are ILLEGAL:
Virginia
District of Columbia
New Jersey
mdcrab
States where Radar Detectors are ILLEGAL:
Virginia
District of Columbia
New Jersey
mdcrab
Originally posted by: shl0791
i got my x50 passport 8500 for 185.89
worth every penny!!! it goes off before i can see the squad car. By that time, i've already slowed down a bit, and then see it weezing by.
Where'd you get this deal?
I have had a V1 for a year now. I love the thing. I drive CA-AZ (10-12 hour drive) about 4-6 times a year, and without my v1 I wouldn't be able to reduce the drive time.
I think/know its better than all escorts for a few reasons. Like other said, the directional arrows help a LOT. Others say "well if a cop is close behind you the signal is strong so you can just look back or slow down".
I disagree with this. I tested out my friends 8500 and when a cop was behind me the signal wasn't strong at all. We were on the highway and there was nothing for radar to bounce back and hit the front of the 8500, so the signal was weak. Driving at night and having a cop pull up behind you (happened a few times to me)... a V1 can save you (and has saved me).
The ONLY thing I think the escort has over the v1 is size... though my v1 doesn't get in the way at all, I can see clearly by it. Someone else mentioned a mute button on the power plug... thats alright i guess too. Though wouldn't help much on a pre-wired car.
If I didn't have the money to buy a v1, i would of gotten an escort. If you have the money, go for the V1.
If not, settle for the escort
I think/know its better than all escorts for a few reasons. Like other said, the directional arrows help a LOT. Others say "well if a cop is close behind you the signal is strong so you can just look back or slow down".
I disagree with this. I tested out my friends 8500 and when a cop was behind me the signal wasn't strong at all. We were on the highway and there was nothing for radar to bounce back and hit the front of the 8500, so the signal was weak. Driving at night and having a cop pull up behind you (happened a few times to me)... a V1 can save you (and has saved me).
The ONLY thing I think the escort has over the v1 is size... though my v1 doesn't get in the way at all, I can see clearly by it. Someone else mentioned a mute button on the power plug... thats alright i guess too. Though wouldn't help much on a pre-wired car.
If I didn't have the money to buy a v1, i would of gotten an escort. If you have the money, go for the V1.
If not, settle for the escort
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They're legal here in Jersey even though the cops here are ticket happy.
On a separate note, radartest.com is know to be biased against Valentine. When he first started that site there were rumours that Craig Peterson was funded by one of the other companies. Also there appears to be personal bad blood between him and the owner of Valentine 1. If you want a fair review on radar detectors read this review from Car and Driver magazine:
The Great Detector Test
I have an old Uniden LRD6399SW. Will these work a lot better?
Do Jammers work? Won't they see you're jamming, get mad, and pull you over even if they weren't planning to in the beginning?
This company says they're pay your ticket if you get one with their jammer. Cr@p?
Do Jammers work? Won't they see you're jamming, get mad, and pull you over even if they weren't planning to in the beginning?
This company says they're pay your ticket if you get one with their jammer. Cr@p?
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