Smart plug that will tell me how often and when my fridge was on?

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Lifer
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I bought a Samsung 4 door fridge recently. It is the same physical size as my old one. (also has icemaker) the interior has way more space in the three sections, plus each section has its own temp control. Bonus, it is also way more energy efficient.
Can you provide the model number? I'm curious. Seems like all the better featured fridges have icemaker these days. I'm wondering if I can just leave it not hooked up or if there's a downside to doing that. I don't need ice all that much, I have my trays and I don't want the downside of the repair issues with icemakers.
 

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So, I'm wondering something. If I do buy a new refrigerator... I like bottom freezer models but I don't see any selling now in Consumer Reports extensive charts/recommendations that don't have an icemaker built in except for diminished sized offerings. I want a big one, kinda like the one I have. My Amana seems ideal to me (what do I know?). I mean it's big 68x33x32" no icemaker and bottom freezer. Try and find that combination now! I don't see it.

So, my question is:

Can I just get a full sized bottom freezer fridge with icemaker and not hook up the icemaker? Would that be as if it didn't come with an icemaker and not have the maintenance issues that are attendant with fridges with icemakers?

Funny thing is the Samsung I was looking at, top freezer with 20cu.ft. usable capacity RT21M2113SG has no icemaker but Samsung sells evidently the same fridge with icemaker for the same price, the RT21M2115SG, according to the just published Consumer Reports 2022 Annual Buying Guide.
I got a new bottom freezer fridge in August, and I haven't hooked up the icemaker.
 
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I got a new bottom freezer fridge in August, and I haven't hooked up the icemaker.
I might do just that. I just ordered a replacement thermostat, less than $10 NEW and free shipping on Ebay, the part number is the same as specified at two different parts suppliers for my model fridge, Amana BR22VW. So, I conclude it's the right part. I'm kind of guessing that it's the thermostat that's causing the problem. There are are posts at Partselect by people explaining how to do the replacement and other info. They want $104 for the part, plus shipping, I suppose.

https://www.partselect.com/PS100627...archTerm=br22vw&ModelNum=br22vw&ModelID=39987
 

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Damn you must really be attached to that refrigerator to go through all that.

Get a new one without an icemaker or just don't connect it. Make sure you get an extended warranty.
 
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I use so much ice in the summer, I dump the tray into an old ice cream tub and let the tray fill up again.

Winter, I've been known to flip the bale up to stop the ice making.
 

Muse

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I use so much ice in the summer, I dump the tray into an old ice cream tub and let the tray fill up again.

Winter, I've been known to flip the bale up to stop the ice making.
I use almost no ice. On rare occasions I do use ice. I unload a tray or two into a plastic bag and keep in freezer for those occasions. Icemakers increase the unreliability parameters of refrigerators considerably, is the impression I have from my investigations online, and I suppose in print as well. If I get a fridge with an icemaker it's almost for sure I won't use it. Just hooking up the water would be a bitch here. I have enough issues to deal with without tripping on having an icemaker. I bought what I figure to be state of the art ice trays around 2 years ago.
 

manly

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So, I'm wondering something. If I do buy a new refrigerator... I like bottom freezer models but I don't see any selling now in Consumer Reports extensive charts/recommendations that don't have an icemaker built in except for diminished sized offerings. I want a big one, kinda like the one I have. My Amana seems ideal to me (what do I know?). I mean it's big 68x33x32" no icemaker and bottom freezer. Try and find that combination now! I don't see it.

So, my question is:

Can I just get a full sized bottom freezer fridge with icemaker and not hook up the icemaker? Would that be as if it didn't come with an icemaker and not have the maintenance issues that are attendant with fridges with icemakers?

Funny thing is the Samsung I was looking at, top freezer with 20cu.ft. usable capacity RT21M2113SG has no icemaker but Samsung sells evidently the same fridge with icemaker for the same price, the RT21M2115SG, according to the just published Consumer Reports 2022 Annual Buying Guide.
I bought a new fridge nearly a year ago. At the time, there were some "shortages" not so much because of supply chains, but because a lot of people had reverted to home cooking and had been upgrading kitchens with stimulus money. So deals weren't great, but you should keep an eye out for Black Friday promos.

I did refer to Consumer Reports, but it's somewhat hard to use their information. The models they review are invariably old by press time, so you just can't find them in stores. You can make educated guesses based on their ratings.

I leaned heavily on The Wirecutter's guide to buying a fridge, but the guide has changed this year. Although they don't do hands-on testing like CR, at least they referred to current year models. Now they've stopped recommending models (which can change annually), but recommend brands instead. Honestly this makes less sense to me than before.

I would strongly discourage buying a Samsung; they make nice fridges with piss-poor reputations for reliability. Strangely enough, Wirecutter recommends LG this year, but they were also infamous for bad compressors and even worse customer service. There are at least a couple threads in these forums warning against buying a Samsung fridge. You have been warned.

As for bottom freezer models, they just aren't highly popular in the U.S. so are a bit hard to shop for. A French door fridge is roughly the same thing (bottom freezer, but side-by-side doors up top) and are most popular with consumers these days.

In the end, I bought a Whirlpool that was recommended by The Wirecutter. No water line is connected up. I'm a bit disappointed by the fit and finish, but I did get the deal I wanted and hope that it'll last a long time.
 
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I bought a new fridge nearly a year ago. At the time, there were some "shortages" not so much because of supply chains, but because a lot of people had reverted to home cooking and had been upgrading kitchens with stimulus money. So deals weren't great, but you should keep an eye out for Black Friday promos.

I did refer to Consumer Reports, but it's somewhat hard to use their information. The models they review are invariably old by press time, so you just can't find them in stores. You can make educated guesses based on their ratings.

I leaned heavily on The Wirecutter's guide to buying a fridge, but the guide has changed this year. Although they don't do hands-on testing like CR, at least they referred to current year models. Now they've stopped recommending models (which can change annually), but recommend brands instead. Honestly this makes less sense to me than before.

I would strongly discourage buying a Samsung; they make nice fridges with piss-poor reputations for reliability. Strangely enough, Wirecutter recommends LG this year, but they were also infamous for bad compressors and even worse customer service. There are at least a couple threads in these forums warning against buying a Samsung fridge. You have been warned.

As for bottom freezer models, they just aren't highly popular in the U.S. so are a bit hard to shop for. A French door fridge is roughly the same thing (bottom freezer, but side-by-side doors up top) and are most popular with consumers these days.

In the end, I bought a Whirlpool that was recommended by The Wirecutter. No water line is connected up. I'm a bit disappointed by the fit and finish, but I did get the deal I wanted and hope that it'll last a long time.
Thanks for this. I'm hoping I don't have to throw out food by this time next week. By then I should at least know if a new thermostat is going to make this thing work again. However, I have hopes of doing a fair bit of traveling as the pandemic lets up and I figure a new fridge might be a very smart investment. I don't want to have to wonder in my travels if I'll come home to a stinking mess! An apparently well working 21+ year old fridge can't provide that confidence is something I've discovered in the last week, which has been an education, an adventure and a trauma all at once. So far, I haven't had to toss any food... fingers crossed.

I have seen a bit of info that Whirlpool has about the highest rep for reliability. I suppose that figured into your decision. If I can get my fridge working for the time being it will give me time to try to make a decision that I can feel was justified. I love that feeling and hate the feeling that I blew a purchase decision. A fridge is kind of a biggie, at least for me.
 

Muse

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Plugged my problem fridge into my just installed Kasa energy monitoring smart plug a couple hours ago. Now I don't have to be in the kitchen to find out if the fridge is running. It hows energy consumption in the Kasa app via wifi.

I got the fridge running and consumption jumped from 2.0w to 270w and soon cascaded to 170w and is gradually descending, is at 157w now.

Just bought a pair of temperature & humidity sensors with hub that connect via wifi to a cell phone. With this I can set alerts and emails. I figure that potentially this system can alert me anywhere if my fridge is having issues.