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Small, quiet HSF or fan for Socket A recommendations please

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MadEye2

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I C&Ped this from the CPU forum. I'm not entirely sure where it belongs.

I'm looking to buy a new HFS for my machine, but I can only seem to find reviews for the relatively expensive and large neon and LED types. Also, I don't think I can use the larger 12cm kind because, due to the size of my PC there's only about 1.5cm between the current HSF and PSU. Can anyone recommend a quiet fan for me? My machine uses a Socket A Sempron 2200+ running at stock speed of 1500Mhz.
Are there any quiet fans available that I can use on my current bogstandard, aluminium, 80mm based heatsink? I'm running short of money you see.

Thanks.

Also, what's the best way to get thermal adhesive off a motherboard? When I first got my machine I overclocked it way beyond it's supposed to - it heated up to over 100c and some of the adhesive melted off and trickled down into the gap between the CPU and the capacitors. It's not doing any harm, thankfully.
 
Originally posted by: MadEye2
I C&Ped this from the CPU forum. I'm not entirely sure where it belongs.

I'm looking to buy a new HFS for my machine, but I can only seem to find reviews for the relatively expensive and large neon and LED types. Also, I don't think I can use the larger 12cm kind because, due to the size of my PC there's only about 1.5cm between the current HSF and PSU. Can anyone recommend a quiet fan for me? My machine uses a Socket A Sempron 2200+ running at stock speed of 1500Mhz.
Are there any quiet fans available that I can use on my current bogstandard, aluminium, 80mm based heatsink? I'm running short of money you see.

Thanks.

Also, what's the best way to get thermal adhesive off a motherboard? When I first got my machine I overclocked it way beyond it's supposed to - it heated up to over 100c and some of the adhesive melted off and trickled down into the gap between the CPU and the capacitors. It's not doing any harm, thankfully.
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I have a socket A reccomendation for a HSF, but it is not small. The Alpha PAL8045 is very tall and heavy, but only as wide as a 80mm fan so it should fit. This is one of the best socket A coolers available but it does not fit all motherboards due to it needing the mounting holes to install. It is basically a large copper plug in an aluminum fin setup so you get the best of both worlds. You can get it and a Panaflo L1A 80mm which will be VERY quiet and do a good job cooling your setup. It won't be cheap (expect to pay ~$40 for the Alpha and a fan) but it will work very well.

If that is too much money then look at hooking the before mentioned Panaflo to your stock cooler using some cutup coat hangers or paper clips (yes, I have done this and it works pretty well). Personally I say spend the $40 or so and get a great HSF but that is just me.

As for removing your pad, here is what I do (most of this is directly from arctic silvers website). I use Goof-Off and a lint-free cloth ($2 glasses cloth from Rite-Aid) and remove all the stuff this way. The site reccomends you then use pure iso alcohol to remove all trace of the cleaner but I never use this step.

-spike

EDIT* Apparently it is now called the 8055F
Newegg Link

Newegg has it for a little over $30 and I have seen the Panaflo L1A 80mm for under $10 so my $40 estimate is pretty close
 
From the photos I've found it looks as though the Alpha will fit. The Panaflo will fit most generic heatsinks, though, won't it? I have no problem with cludging it in if it doesn't - the insides of my case is a mess anyway!

The thermal goo is stuck on the PCB of the mobo itself, thankfully it appears to be a bloody good electrical insulator. It'll be safe to clean the residue with alcohol products, yeah?
Is it possible to just peel this stuff off - it's formed a lovely, pickable scab that I can get a nail under but will it crack any of the PCB's copper paths? I'll probably just leave it, it gives my mobo some character I suppose.

Thanks
 
Originally posted by: MadEye2
From the photos I've found it looks as though the Alpha will fit. The Panaflo will fit most generic heatsinks, though, won't it? I have no problem with cludging it in if it doesn't - the insides of my case is a mess anyway!

The thermal goo is stuck on the PCB of the mobo itself, thankfully it appears to be a bloody good electrical insulator. It'll be safe to clean the residue with alcohol products, yeah?
Is it possible to just peel this stuff off - it's formed a lovely, pickable scab that I can get a nail under but will it crack any of the PCB's copper paths? I'll probably just leave it, it gives my mobo some character I suppose.

Thanks
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I would really use some iso alcohol or goof-off to clean it off, even if it is not a conductor I would feel safer with it gone.

The panaflo should fit most heat sinks and with a little modification, pretty much all of them.

-spike
 
I've found a site selling various versions of the Panaflo L1A. The very low noise one runs at 1900rpm at 21dB and the low noise one runs at 2950 at 32dB. Your's is the very low noise version, yeah? Did it increase CPU temps at all before you added the new heatsink because of the low speed? I've seen my CPU run up to 52c with it's fan running inbetween 3600-3700 rpm, but I can only tell when I reboot the machine as I have no software for measuring temps.
 
Originally posted by: Spike


EDIT* Apparently it is now called the 8055F
Newegg Link

Newegg has it for a little over $30 and I have seen the Panaflo L1A 80mm for under $10 so my $40 estimate is pretty close
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Thats the 8045's replacement, it's the same heatsink but it dosn't require the use of the mounting holes.

I have the 8045; Alpha makes some of the beat heatsinks out there.
 
The Panaflo very low noise fan will keep CPU temps about the same as my current fan without the Alpha heatsink won't it, despite it being half the speed of my current one, yeah?
 
Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: Spike


EDIT* Apparently it is now called the 8055F
Newegg Link

Newegg has it for a little over $30 and I have seen the Panaflo L1A 80mm for under $10 so my $40 estimate is pretty close
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Thats the 8045's replacement, it's the same heatsink but it dosn't require the use of the mounting holes.

I have the 8045; Alpha makes some of the beat heatsinks out there.
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That would have been kinda nice not to have to use the mounting holes. Still, I feel better with a 500g heatsink bolted in place, that much weight hanging by my socket would scare me.

-spike
 
Originally posted by: Operandi
Yeah, the Alpha + L1A will have no problems keeping your Sempron cool.
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I assume that the Sempron runs cooler than a AXP? I tried a L1A with my AXP 2.2Ghz and it did not cool enough with the Alpha (past 50c under load which is unacceptable for me). I switched to a high output YS-tech on my voltage controller (8-9v) and that works well.

-spike
 
I have no idea how I change the voltage for fans. I'm assuming it's set at 12v already though. I forgot to say about that the voltages for both fans for those settings were at 12v. I'm going to order on in a moment. Thanks.

Here's the shop I'm looking at: http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/

What's a tacho? Is it something to do with monitoring RPM?
 
Originally posted by: MadEye2
I have no idea how I change the voltage for fans. I'm assuming it's set at 12v already though. I forgot to say about that the voltages for both fans for those settings were at 12v. I'm going to order on in a moment. Thanks.

Here's the shop I'm looking at: http://www.dorothybradbury.co.uk/

What's a tacho? Is it something to do with monitoring RPM?
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Tacho is for RPM monitoring (I believe that is where you get the term Tachometer).

I use a simple fan controller to change the voltages of my fans, I paid $7 for a 4-channel 18watt per channel controller with a range of 7-12 volts on each channel. You can go the ghetto route and hook a resister in line with the fan to reduce voltage but with controllers being so cheap....

-spike
 
I might get one because my case fans don't need to be on high all the time, but they're pretty quiet, and I think 21db on the Panaflo will be fine, I hope. Thanks both

Operandi " Yeah, the Alpha + L1A will have no problems keeping your Sempron cool. "
Edit: I misread, I meant will the L1A with the generic aluminium heatsink I have now work OK?

I found this on heatsink-guide.com, Spike. It doesn't give any typical CPU temps, but the Sempron can't survive high temps as well as AthlonXPs and Durons. I've no idea if it means the Sempron runs cooler though. What do you think?


AMD Athlon, Athlon 64, Opteron, Duron and Sempron

All Slot A CPUs (Athlon classic, Athlon Thunderbird) 70°C
Athlon Socket A up to 1 GHz, Duron up to 1.3GHz 90°C
Athlon "Thunderbird" Socket A 1.1GHz or more 95°C
Athlon MP 1.33GHz or more 95°C
Athlon XP up to 2100+ 90°C
Athlon XP 2200+ and faster 85°C
Duron "Applebred" 1.4G and faster 85°C
AMD Opteron 69 - 70°C
Athlon 64, 64FX, Sempron 70°C
 
I wouldn't use a L1A with a generic heat sink, it might work but then again it might not. I can that the Alpha will work just fine with the L1A however.
 
I've bought the L1A, I should get it on Monday. I may have to buy the Alpha for when summer kicks in - my room is in direct sunlight through most of the day
 
I got the Panaflo fan today. It's so quiet I can hear my hard drives clicking and the GPU fan spinning, but they aren't intrusive at all so this is great 🙂 I don't know how it'll hold up with high temps though, the fan is slightly larger than my old one - old one turned out to be 70mm, so that should help, but the only way I can find out how effective it is is to wait until the house gets warm.
I'm going to replace the case fans with Panaflo VLNs now, it's these that are giving off a lot of noise so I've temporarily taken them off.

Edit: My CPU temps haven't reached any higher than 37°c while the CPU was on high load and the house radiators were on full.

Thanks for the recommendations Spike and Operandi
 
Originally posted by: MadEye2
I got the Panaflo fan today. It's so quiet I can hear my hard drives clicking and the GPU fan spinning, but they aren't intrusive at all so this is great 🙂 I don't know how it'll hold up with high temps though, the fan is slightly larger than my old one - old one turned out to be 70mm, so that should help, but the only way I can find out how effective it is is to wait until the house gets warm.
I'm going to replace the case fans with Panaflo VLNs now, it's these that are giving off a lot of noise so I've temporarily taken them off.

Edit: My CPU temps haven't reached any higher than 37°c while the CPU was on high load and the house radiators were on full.

Thanks for the recommendations Spike and Operandi
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Sounds like you have a winner there, 37c under load is not bad at all 😉

-spike
 
I know! 😀 It's great, it's been running all day and it hasn't passed 38°c, but I am cheating a bit though - the case is off, but I don't think that'll make a lot of difference because theres no case fans moving cooler air around. I probably don't need a fan on this heatsink anyway lol. I might o/c it a bit, see what happens.
 
Originally posted by: MadEye2
I C&Ped this from the CPU forum. I'm not entirely sure where it belongs.

I'm looking to buy a new HFS for my machine, but I can only seem to find reviews for the relatively expensive and large neon and LED types. Also, I don't think I can use the larger 12cm kind because, due to the size of my PC there's only about 1.5cm between the current HSF and PSU. Can anyone recommend a quiet fan for me? My machine uses a Socket A Sempron 2200+ running at stock speed of 1500Mhz.
Are there any quiet fans available that I can use on my current bogstandard, aluminium, 80mm based heatsink? I'm running short of money you see.

Thanks.

Also, what's the best way to get thermal adhesive off a motherboard? When I first got my machine I overclocked it way beyond it's supposed to - it heated up to over 100c and some of the adhesive melted off and trickled down into the gap between the CPU and the capacitors. It's not doing any harm, thankfully.
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http://www.svcompucycle.com/nthtrwtmdfan.html

i currently have this thermaltake on my sempron 2600+. it's very quiet. it's not too big. it has a cool little fan driven by the edges of the blade not by a motor at the center so it moves more air with less noise.
 
Looks like a good design that thermaltake one, probably cools better too, but I'm pleased with the Panaflo one - I just hope it copes well with summer temperatures. Thanks for the info, though.
 
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