Slapping on a coat of silence

[kranky]

Originally posted by: pinion9
I think an even better plan would be to make it illegal to have your cell phone on ring mode in a public place like a theater, restaurant, etc, and fine people $100 if their cell phone goes off.

I'm for that. Or I'd also support weeaboo as the penalty for a cell phone ringing in a theater or concert.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

What did we do in these situations before there were cell phones?

This is a stupid argument.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

The tired old "what about the children" arguement yet again. I wish they would slather this paint all over every movie theater in the country.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?

Who the hell would be calling someone at the theater to come save them? If it was that critical they should be dialing 911.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?

And if the traffic around the theater costs him 5 minutes? If the cell phone stops working? If he slips on popcorn butter on the way out of the theater? If he drops the cellphone in the toilet? If, if, if. If 5 minutes are so critical maybe he should just be at the hospital all the time.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?

Who the hell would be calling someone at the theater to come save them? If it was that critical they should be dialing 911.

When an expert is required after the emergency has been analyzed.

MDs used to get calls on the golf course and if needed they would quit the game.
As another said; pagers may be different; If you are critical; get a pager. Pager goes off; check it, get up if needed and go to the lobby to make the call.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

It's called a LAN Line.......somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before.....

actually brainiac.. its LAND.. as in LAND based line...
not airborne as Cellular and radio traffic are...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?

And if the traffic around the theater costs him 5 minutes? If the cell phone stops working? If he slips on popcorn butter on the way out of the theater? If he drops the cellphone in the toilet? If, if, if. If 5 minutes are so critical maybe he should just be at the hospital all the time.

How about this? A person can control the downtime and delay between being alerted with little adverse effects to their personal life. They cannot control the downtime between getting to and from the hospital, or accidents, without adversely affecting their personal life.

 

[teddyv]

MDs used to get calls on the golf course and if needed they would quit the game.

Exactly - that's why I said "with disclosure." Make sure to put signs where they cannot be missed "Your Cellphone Will NOT Work Once You Enter."

So, like choosing not to take a long plane flight, if you happen to be a surgeon on call you can decide up front that you either want to be out of touch for the next three hours, or want to be responsible and wait to take in a show when you are not on call.

Yep, it really is that easy.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: teddyv

somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.

Do you realize what you just said?

A brain surgeon on call, is exactly that, on call. They can't go another night until they're taken off of the on call assignment.

WTH is your point? Brain surgeons aren't on call 24x7x365. Emergency personnel take turns. If you're on call, then your activities are naturally somewhat limited. You wait until someone else is on call if you need to. Part of the job. When I was a network administrator many moons ago, I was on call every other week and I planned my life accordingly. If something special came up, then I made arrangements for someone to cover me. It's not rocket science.

So like teddyv said, as long as establishments are clear on this, I'm all for it. And like someone else said, the world managed to survive without cellphones for quite some time.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?

And if the traffic around the theater costs him 5 minutes? If the cell phone stops working? If he slips on popcorn butter on the way out of the theater? If he drops the cellphone in the toilet? If, if, if. If 5 minutes are so critical maybe he should just be at the hospital all the time.

How about this? A person can control the downtime and delay between being alerted with little adverse effects to their personal life. They cannot control the downtime between getting to and from the hospital, or accidents, without adversely affecting their personal life.

What if I wanted to go visit my family out of state while I was on call? Whoops, looks like I can't do that. Watch the kids? What if I have to leave suddenly. Drink a beer? What if I have to go perform open heart surgery 15 minutes from now. My personal life has already been adversely affected simply by being on call.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Citrix
yea but the people 10 years ago who had pagers was pretty small and the people had them used them for them for business. not very many teenagers (a few yes) were running around with pagers compared to todays cell population.

Why not go straight to the source and just ban teenages from the theater? :roll:

Teenagers have never needed cell phones or technology to be disruptive in theaters or other public places. Banning cell phones won't fix that problem.

 

[cyclistca]

Does it come in blue?

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: teddyv

It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

I am betting this gets to litigation. The FCC forbids actively jamming cell phone signals but not passively blocking. This system uses no active transmitter but at the same time is not really a passive block either.

This is why the lawyers get rich 🙂

I'm betting the law gets amended to specifically include nanotechnology as an active blocker. If you can turn it off and do so during intermissions and the like, then putting it in the block mode should be considered "jamming". If they simply used a paint that always blocked the signal, then they'd be okay.

 

[teddyv]

My reading of the article was that the signals were always blocked, but that a selective repeater was used to "pipe in" a pathway during intermissions, etc.

 

[BillGates]

I've noticed that cell signals disappear in sports books of certain Las Vegas casinos...probably a similar product. (cell phones are not allowed in those areas)

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

Holy crap, people will fvcking keep living. If they cant, then nobody is forcing them to go to the movies. I hate cell phones, and I hate it when people spend half of their day on them or checking them for messages.

 

[josh0099]

What happens when there is an emergency in the theater say a hostage situation and none of the hostages can use their cell phone to call 911??? This is why you can't have cell phone blocking the second something like this warning sign or not the theater or place that uses it will get sued.

 

[Slacker]

Originally posted by: SupaDupaCheez
Writes note to self:

Buy 1 million gallons of anti-cellphone paint and paint all the restaurants and movie theatres in my area.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

Not that I agree with it as I'd love to shut them off as well, but I think it was the FCC that made it illegal to do this sort of thing at major places due to any emergency that might need to be called in or something like that.

it's illegal to ACTIVELY JAM signals.

So you're telling me it's illegal to build a basement in your house, unless you've got a repeater station so that people can get cellphone coverage?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

Not that I agree with it as I'd love to shut them off as well, but I think it was the FCC that made it illegal to do this sort of thing at major places due to any emergency that might need to be called in or something like that.

it's illegal to ACTIVELY JAM signals.

So you're telling me it's illegal to build a basement in your house, unless you've got a repeater station so that people can get cellphone coverage?

People will intentionally use this paint to block out cell phones. So they are taking an active measure to prevent cell phone signals.

People don't intentionally build basements to block cell phones.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

Not that I agree with it as I'd love to shut them off as well, but I think it was the FCC that made it illegal to do this sort of thing at major places due to any emergency that might need to be called in or something like that.

it's illegal to ACTIVELY JAM signals.

So you're telling me it's illegal to build a basement in your house, unless you've got a repeater station so that people can get cellphone coverage?

People will intentionally use this paint to block out cell phones. So they are taking an active measure to prevent cell phone signals.

People don't intentionally build basements to block cell phones.

Intentionally is still not actively.

 

[Platypus]

Devil's Advocate: police were notified of the columbine tragedy because of student cellphone calls.

 

[Phlargo]

Please! Let them coat the movie theatres and classrooms in this stuff.. You can wait to get your voicemail until after class. <feh>

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

I feel that this stuff should be required all over the place! As has been said before: Life went on just fine before cellphones came about. Seriously. It really did. Second; if your job requires you to be on call, then DON'T GO to places with the nanopaint. If you feel that spoils your freedoms, then perhaps you chose the wrong line of work. You can't expect the rest of the world to change course because you can't accept the consequences that come with your career.