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Slapping on a coat of silence

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Slapping on a coat of silence
Company says its high-tech paint will block cell phone calls

By Jon Van
Tribune staff reporter
Published March 1, 2006, 12:05 AM CST


The intrusion of cellular phone rings into theaters, schools and nearly every other nook and cranny of modern life may soon hit a wall.

Playing to the backlash against ubiquitous communication, a company called NaturalNano is developing a special high-tech paint that relies on the wizardry of nanotechnology to create a system that locks out unwanted cell phone signals on demand.

The paint represents a dream to those who seek a distraction-free movie or concert experience, and a nightmare to those who compulsively monitor their BlackBerry phones.

It is also another breakthrough application of nanotechnology, the emerging science of harnessing sub-microscopic organisms for everyday uses, like stain-resistant pants and transparent sunblock. The National Science Foundation has predicted that nanotechnology eventually will be a trillion-dollar industry.

"You could use this in a concert hall, allowing cell phones to work before the concert and during breaks, but shutting them down during the performance," said Michael Riedlinger, president of NaturalNano of Rochester, N.Y.

His firm has found a way to use nanotechnology to blend particles of copper into paint that can be brushed onto walls and effectively deflect radio signals.

The copper is inserted into nanotubes, which are ultra-tiny tubes that occur naturally in halloysite clay mined in Utah. The nanotubes are about 20,000 times thinner than a piece of paper, too small to be seen with even a conventional microscope. At this size, which is near the molecular scale, materials have different physical properties than they normally do.

By filling these tubes with nano-particles of copper, the company can create a medium to suspend the signal-blocking metal throughout a can of paint without significantly changing the way the paint adheres to a surface.

NaturalNano will combine this signal-blocking paint scheme with a radio-filtering device that collects phone signals from outside a shielded space, allowing certain transmissions to proceed while blocking others.

Wireless chill

Even the thought of such a thing upsets the wireless phone industry.

"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

Farren said that any scheme to selectively block calls is illegal.

But Robert Crowley of AMBIT Corp., which designed the radio filtering device for NaturalNano, said the system is legal. The nanotech-augmented paint that blocks signals is a passive device, not an illegal radio jammer, he said.

The radio filter would allow all emergency radio communications to pass through the shield, Crowley said. With all other signals, like cell phones, the filter would act like a spigot to block or allow them to pass through?say, only during intermission.

"There'd be no limitation of public service radio access," he said.

Crowley said there's a lot of pent-up demand for people to have more control of the radio space in their own buildings. His Ashland, Mass.-based firm, which develops equipment to enhance cell phone reception inside moving vehicles, often hears from such people.

"Our No. 1 request comes from churches," he said. "Pastors want a way to stop cell phones ringing in church and people taking calls during worship services."

Schools seek control

School administrators would also want to keep students from taking cell phone calls or sending text messages to one another during class, he said.

Most schools ban cell phone use in class, but administrators would like more control over wireless traffic.

Bill Smith, director of instructional support services for Sioux Falls, S.D., schools said his district is interested in NaturalNano's signal-blocking paint because administrators are worried about what would happen in the event of an emergency in a school.

"During a crisis, students using cell phones would overwhelm the system, making it impossible for administrators to use cell phones to call authorities," Smith said. "I don't know if there's a way to manage that."

Smith said students are allowed to have phones in their backpacks or lockers, but if they use a phone during class, the device is confiscated and their parents are called.

"That works pretty well," Smith said. "Whether we'd want to install a system to add further control would really depend on how much it cost. We run a pretty austere system."

Jamming illegal

Even though they're illegal, jamming devices that emit radio signals to prevent cell phones from working are widely available, said Tim Kridel, a wireless industry analyst.

"You can find plenty of jammers on the Internet that are shipped from other countries," said Kridel. "But using them risks getting into trouble with the Federal Communications Commission."

Farren, the wireless industry spokesman, said that jamming doesn't seem to be a major problem.

"But it's hard to detect," he said. "Nothing shows up on your phone that says 'Your signal's being jammed.'"

Based on phone inquiries and Web site visits, AMBIT's Crowley said many people apparently want a legal way to control wireless bad behavior.

"We tell pastors they can't be bashful about asking their congregation to turn off their phones, because there's nothing else available," he said. "The system NaturalNano proposes would be a cost-effective alternative."

But even though cell phones can be a nuisance, not all pastors seek a technical solution.

"I've had them go off during a service, although it's rare," said Tom Allen, pastor of the Bible Fellowship Church in Yardley, Pa., and an associate professor at Philadelphia Biblical University in Langhorne, Pa. "I use humor or just ignore it. Obviously, the person is embarrassed. One ring reminds everybody else to check their phones.

"I've never heard that it happened twice in one service."


Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune

http://www.chicagotribune.com/technolog...hield,1,449691.story?coll=chi-news-hed

*starts buying lots of paint rollers*
 
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.



It's called a LAN Line.......somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before.....
 
Writes note to self:

Buy 1 million gallons of anti-cellphone paint and paint all the restaurants and movie theatres in my area.
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.


Then don't go somewhere that is blocked. That way myself and others can relax, what we paid to do in the first place. Not hear you talk about where you are and how you can;t talk but let me tell you soemthing first... :roll:

 
actually you know what, just put the damn phone on vibrate, if it goes off and it absolutly needs to be answered get up and leave the theatre or excuse yourself from the table at a restaurant and take the call. Its the teenages who accept ever call that deals with Betty getting her hair cut and dyed dirty blond and how Tina just dumped her boyfriend that ruin the experience.

Sorry about the non edit.
 
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

What about the millions of square miles out west where there is no cellular service? What about tunnels? What about underground parking garages? I don't see old Joe Farren complaining about that. And I find it deliciously ironic that if your provider has rotten coverage, that's the subscriber's problem, but if a theater wants to block cell phone calls, that's a catastrophe waiting to happen.

I don't think it will be very long before theaters come up with a legal way to block cell signals and as long as people are notified (can't have any lawsuits, you know) that's fine. If you need to be reachable 24/7 by cell, don't go to a movie.
 
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.



It's called a LAN Line.......somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before.....

LOL!!!
It is called a LAND LINE dude.
 
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

Not that I agree with it as I'd love to shut them off as well, but I think it was the FCC that made it illegal to do this sort of thing at major places due to any emergency that might need to be called in or something like that.
 
somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.
 
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.



It's called a LAN Line.......somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before.....

Local Area Network Line for emergency calls? 😉

Regardless, I think this is a very bad idea. This also means that any emergency personnel that do not carry emergency radios on them at all times must check in whenever they enter or leave a place using the paint. I know people like Off-Duty firefighters will be carrying the radios on them, but what happens if they need to call off-duty police officers, for example? Normally they would reach them via cell phone if they're not home. And how are they to determine whether or not the building uses the paint?
 
Originally posted by: teddyv
somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.

Do you realize what you just said?

A brain surgeon on call, is exactly that, on call. They can't go another night until they're taken off of the on call assignment.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: teddyv
somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.

Do you realize what you just said?

A brain surgeon on call, is exactly that, on call. They can't go another night until they're taken off of the on call assignment.

if a doctor is on call he shouldent be at the movies or well any other place where this woudl most liely be used
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: teddyv
somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.

Do you realize what you just said?

A brain surgeon on call, is exactly that, on call. They can't go another night until they're taken off of the on call assignment.

if a doctor is on call he shouldent be at the movies or well any other place where this woudl most liely be used

Care to give me a valid reason why they shouldn't be?
 
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

I am betting this gets to litigation. The FCC forbids actively jamming cell phone signals but not passively blocking. This system uses no active transmitter but at the same time is not really a passive block either.

This is why the lawyers get rich 🙂
 
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

And if that minute, two minutes, or 5 minutes it takes to get in touch with the person in the theatre costs a person their life?
 
Originally posted by: teddyv
It's illegal to block signals like that in the US.

I am betting this gets to litigation. The FCC forbids actively jamming cell phone signals but not passively blocking. This system uses no active transmitter but at the same time is not really a passive block either.

This is why the lawyers get rich 🙂


Yep there is no law that prevents blocking so long as it is not done actively with tech. Doing so by using materials and such is NOT illegal.



 
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

10 years ago they used pagers. So you'd probably have to go back 30 years to the pre-portable pager years.
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: teddyv
somehow the world operated, with emergencies, and without cell phones before

Bullseye - with disclosure, I think it is a great thing. And if you are a brain surgeon on call and worried you might miss a critical call then skip the performance and go another night.

Do you realize what you just said?

A brain surgeon on call, is exactly that, on call. They can't go another night until they're taken off of the on call assignment.

if a doctor is on call he shouldent be at the movies or well any other place where this woudl most liely be used

A doctor can still be called in for an emergency and not be on call.

This is a stupid idea. I liked the idea about forcing phones to go into vibrate mode better 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Bootprint
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
"We oppose any kind of blocking technology," said Joe Farren, spokesman for The Wireless Association, the leading cell phone trade group. "What about the young parents whose baby-sitter is trying to call them, or the brain surgeon who needs notification of emergency surgery? These calls need to get through."

This is the reason why I think that this is a bad idea.

WTF?? what did people do just a mear 10 years ago? you leave the number of the place you will be and if there is an emergency they call you at that place.

10 years ago they used pagers. So you'd probably have to go back 30 years to the pre-portable pager years.


yea but the people 10 years ago who had pagers was pretty small and the people had them used them for them for business. not very many teenagers (a few yes) were running around with pagers compared to todays cell population.


 
Pagers use a radio signal, so pagers would still work. I have essentially been on call the last year of my life, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I carry a pager with me, see movies and concerts, and never once have I had my cell phone ring. They PAGE me because pagers work even if you are in a parking garage.

Take it from someone who is on call for a Hospital: it would be a fine idea. If you don't have a pager, I'm pretty sure you can afford one.

I think an even better plan would be to make it illegal to have your cell phone on ring mode in a public place like a theater, restaurant, etc, and fine people $100 if their cell phone goes off.

 
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