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polm

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May 24, 2001
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DEBIAN DEBIAN DEBIAN !

Yes it is kinda hard at first, but once you go "APT" you'll never look back :)
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Gentoo makes you want to get working but you are still waiting for the base system to compile correctly.

And that is a problem because.... Why? I mean, people who install gentoo already know that it compiles everything. And it's hardly a annoying as you make it think. I installed it on my old laptop (266Mhz if I remember correctly) from stage 1 (everything is compiled during the install. GCC, Glibc etc.). I left it compiling for the night. In the morning, it was finished. I finished the installation and installed Xfree and Fluxbox. I left it compiling and went to work. When I got back, it was finished. No time lost.

I installed OpenBSD in no more than 30 minutes on a sparcstation 10. I installed the necessary packages in basically the time it took to download them.

Yes so? If quick installation is your primary concern, then you are obviously not Gentoos "target-market". I wouldn't say that compiling everything is a drawback, since the users know it, and they make the choice to use is regardless. To them, compiling is a feature and a benefit, not a drawback.

And FYI, with 1.4, Gentoo should have a complete image of the OS available that you just drop in to the server and use it. Then the installation would take just about as long as it takes to copy the image on the server.
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: polm
DEBIAN DEBIAN DEBIAN !

Yeah, they are just really glacial at adding new software to the distro. Xfree 4.2? 9 months late. KDE3? 8 months and counting...
 

ndee

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Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: polm
DEBIAN DEBIAN DEBIAN !

Yeah, they are just really glacial at adding new software to the distro. Xfree 4.2? 9 months late. KDE3? 8 months and counting...

So? They just don't want unstable software, that's all. Btw, there is a "unstable" Debian with new packages, etc.
 

Nemesis77

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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: polm
DEBIAN DEBIAN DEBIAN !

Yeah, they are just really glacial at adding new software to the distro. Xfree 4.2? 9 months late. KDE3? 8 months and counting...

So? They just don't want unstable software, that's all. Btw, there is a "unstable" Debian with new packages, etc.

I AM running Unstable! Unstable got Xfree 4.2 9 frigging months after it was released. KDE3 is still nowhere to be seen in Unstable. And don't get me started on their "stable" distro. "ancient" would be more fitting name for that one!
 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: polm
DEBIAN DEBIAN DEBIAN !

Yeah, they are just really glacial at adding new software to the distro. Xfree 4.2? 9 months late. KDE3? 8 months and counting...

So? They just don't want unstable software, that's all. Btw, there is a "unstable" Debian with new packages, etc.

I AM running Unstable! Unstable got Xfree 4.2 9 frigging months after it was released. KDE3 is still nowhere to be seen in Unstable. And don't get me started on their "stable" distro. "ancient" would be more fitting name for that one!

Aren't there some unofficial KDE3 packages?

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian/
http://www.cupis.co.uk/debian/kde3.html
 

Debian is the best. I use it on all of my Linux machines. The software update mechanism is uber.
 

n0cmonkey

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Jun 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Gentoo makes you want to get working but you are still waiting for the base system to compile correctly.

And that is a problem because.... Why? I mean, people who install gentoo already know that it compiles everything. And it's hardly a annoying as you make it think. I installed it on my old laptop (266Mhz if I remember correctly) from stage 1 (everything is compiled during the install. GCC, Glibc etc.). I left it compiling for the night. In the morning, it was finished. I finished the installation and installed Xfree and Fluxbox. I left it compiling and went to work. When I got back, it was finished. No time lost.

I installed OpenBSD in no more than 30 minutes on a sparcstation 10. I installed the necessary packages in basically the time it took to download them.

Yes so? If quick installation is your primary concern, then you are obviously not Gentoos "target-market". I wouldn't say that compiling everything is a drawback, since the users know it, and they make the choice to use is regardless. To them, compiling is a feature and a benefit, not a drawback.

And FYI, with 1.4, Gentoo should have a complete image of the OS available that you just drop in to the server and use it. Then the installation would take just about as long as it takes to copy the image on the server.

Obviously Im not. I want fast, stable, easy. Gentoo takes too long. I have heard too many horror stories of things breaking for me to consider putting Gentoo into production. Just my opinion of course. Some people have copious amounts of free time, I dont.
 

Originally posted by: dwell
Debian is the best. I use it on all of my Linux machines. The software update mechanism is uber.

its above? Does it fly? Float maybe?:confused:
 

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dwell
Debian is the best. I use it on all of my Linux machines. The software update mechanism is uber.

its above? Does it fly? Float maybe?:confused:
Get with teh lingo sonny. ;)
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dwell
Debian is the best. I use it on all of my Linux machines. The software update mechanism is uber.
its above? Does it fly? Float maybe?:confused:
Get with teh lingo sonny. ;)
uber is above in german.;)
that would be über :)
And how the ... are you supposed to pronounce it? :cool:
 

ndee

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: dwell
Debian is the best. I use it on all of my Linux machines. The software update mechanism is uber.
its above? Does it fly? Float maybe?:confused:
Get with teh lingo sonny. ;)
uber is above in german.;)
that would be über :)
And how the ... are you supposed to pronounce it? :cool:
ü = ü, not soooooo difficult to pronounce ;) if I had a mic, I would record it :)