Skylake upgrad having stability problems.

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wingman04

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Skylake upgrad having stability problems.

Windows 10 is having problems after 3-8 hours of use, the menus don't work some times, like the shut down icon then I cant click on it, the browser crashes on webpages, when I click close on the X it does not close, I was just trying to work on my picture collection and they would not open full screen. To fix everything I have to restart my PC all the time.

I did the windows memory test and it passed.
Ran prime95 for 9 hours it passed, however windows was not working well I had to restart.

The only upgrade parts I used are i5 6600k, Ga-Z170-HD3, G.SKILL NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 it is running stock configuration.:eek:

The rest of my previse parts were running fine with Sandy Bridge.

Is there anyone that has seen this trouble with skylake running for 3 to 9 hours?
 

UsandThem

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Did you install all the drivers from the Gigabyte's website, especially the chipset driver (.inf)?

Did you do a clean install of Windows 10 when you upgraded your components, or did you simply take the hard drive from your old system and boot off of it?

We need a lot more detailed info if we are going to make an educated guess on what's wrong.
 

wingman04

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It runs fine when I run for a 1 hour or 2, it's not software, not yet until till it gets corrupted by the new hardware I purchased.:eek:
 
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UsandThem

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If it works fine for hours, and then starts having issues, it could be heat related. It could also be OS corruption or issues with some programs.

Have you updated your motherboard BIOS?

Still not enough information provided to make a recommendation. Like I already asked earlier, did you do a clean OS install when you upgraded your hardware?
 

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The Bios is already F6. With intel CPU you can go up to 90c, thermal throttling is at 100c. I don't even use a heatsink LOL. If the OS or programs are corrupted they would not fix them selves when I restart.

I look at it this way in my case either the CPU is craping the memory or the memory is doing the craping here.
 
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To answer your question I've had no problems with the i7 6700k. I did have some issues with windows 10 before I did a clean install.
 

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The Bios is already F6. With intel CPU you can go up to 90c, thermal throttling is at 100c. I don't even use a heatsink LOL. If the OS or programs are corrupted they would not fix them selves when I restart.

I look at it this way in my case either the CPU is craping the memory or the memory is doing the craping here.

Good luck to you.
 
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wingman04

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To answer your question I've had no problems with the i7 6700k. I did have some issues with windows 10 before I did a clean install.
I switch out my memory lets see how this goes. thanks for answering my Question. I can't count the number of clean installs of windows 10 for me.
 

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Uhh, no heatsink? That's your problem. Whatever you think the CPU can sit at, 90C is too hot. Consider that mine, with the stock Intel heatsink, idles at 30 and tops out at 61 to 65C MAXIMUM under 100% full load for hours and hours.

Go ahead and fiddle with everything. Until you put a heatsink and fan on there, the problems will remain.
 

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Uhh, no heatsink? That's your problem.
Until you put a heatsink and fan on there, the problems will remain.

Uhm, yup. OP, why are you being an intentional dumbass cheapskate? Who advised you not to get a heatsink?
 
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UsandThem

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Who advised you not to get a heatsink?

I have been a member on this forum for a long time. I have seen some interesting stuff over the years. However, this 'problem' might just take the cake.

Just when you thought you have seen it all.....
 

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The Bios is already F6. With intel CPU you can go up to 90c, thermal throttling is at 100c. I don't even use a heatsink LOL. If the OS or programs are corrupted they would not fix them selves when I restart.

I look at it this way in my case either the CPU is craping the memory or the memory is doing the craping here.

No heatsink/fan? WTF?

W10 is very good at fixing itself, actually.

Much better than previous versions of Windows, imo.

I am a Win10 Insider. and I have been testing Win10 builds for a long time. One of my test routines was to deliberately try to crash it, by doing stupid things on purpose. I would cut power in the middle of HDD writes, cut power in the middle of update installs, hit the reset button in the middle of writes or updates, etc.

I even changed hardware during an update restart.

Win10 was mostly immune to that behavior. :D
 

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I'm switching parts just testing light things with my heatsink off, just like this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1C8gEawvSI. When I do prime95 testing I use the heatsink with no TIM to save time, I have been working on PCs since the beginning when they did not have heatsinks . I'm a past PC tech. I'm getting it narrowed down thanks for the help.
 
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wilds

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Using Prime95 without any TIM wouldn't be a valid stability test. The CPU would be throttling like mad. Put on some TIM and mount the HSF. Without those, your CPU will throttle until it shuts itself off.
 

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Interesting video, to be sure, but still, not too smart. The G3258 (especially at idle, and I don't recall them showing what they had it clocked / volted to) basically just sips power. I would expect that a 6600K would take more power overall, being a quad-core, and 95W TDP.
 

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Interesting video, to be sure, but still, not too smart. The G3258 (especially at idle, and I don't recall them showing what they had it clocked / volted to) basically just sips power. I would expect that a 6600K would take more power overall, being a quad-core, and 95W TDP.

It is most likely sipping power as well. The 6600k at 800 MHz is very low power consumption, even with 4 cores. I doubt his 6600k is able to hit its max stock voltage/clockspeed without TIM and/or an HSF.
 
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wingman04

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You just have to watch your temps when doing lite tasks with no heatsink, it is about 60c stock clock. Until you have tried not using TIM on a heatsink you wont know what I see for temps. My highest temp with prime95 is 69c with 4.2 oc no TIM.

I've been doing this for so long I've almost seen everything.
 

wingman04

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Wanna see Crysis or Prime95.
I am now, I have my hyper 212 with no TIM and it is running prime95 with a temp of 69c at 4.2GHz OC.

It is nice to have people to talk to while I figure out my stability problem, thanks for the help.

So far it looks like the memory. I have a lot more testing to do it takes 3-9 hours for trouble show, most of the time, except when I Just had a problem with the original memory in the past hour.
 
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