Skinny Blonde Psycho calls Jordin Sparks Obese

[xtknight]

What a worthless self-absorbed scum (the psycho that is). I'm going to laugh when she starts having a weight problem.

 

[SaltBoy]

For those of you who say she needs to drop weight, look at Aretha Franklin and shut up. If she's got the talent, which she does, she'll make it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

There were no relationships in silhouette scoring between adoptees and adoptive parents. We conclude that human obesity is under genetic control, whereas the childhood family environment has little, if any, influence on obesity in adults. It is an important task for future research to identify the genes involved.

The conclusions are incontrovertible. A genetically skinny person will NOT become obese when raised by obese parents and vice versa. The sample size for these studies were HUGE, and it has stood up to all scrutiny. Not only that, but these are mutiple studies all independently repeated.

Environment and nurturing have NOTHING to do with the propensity for obesity. Any deviation from this was insignifigant.

Next time read the proof I posted rather than posting something you "feel" is right.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: SampSon

myth, there is not such thing.

african americans are almost twice as likely to have diabetes and all the stuff that comes with it...heart desease etc.
this political correctness has gone too far really. people think they are helping? who are the kidding. you aren't helping sh*t when its enabling people to sicken themselves

There is no such thing? So the idea that a taller person should carry more weight than a shorter person is a myth? Did you actually do any research like Amused, or just think this up yourself? It sounds like you took that soundbyte directly from this fox news clip...

Since you don't know Jordan's height or weight (don't bother googling, google trends even acknowleges the lack of data) how can you determine if her height to weight ratio is correct? Since you have no supporting data you're coming off just like this crazy meme chick in the clip. Unless someone saying "she looks like she's carrying some extra weight" is imperical data no one has a clue.

As for people being big look at Leila Ali (sp), Muhammad Ali's daughter who was recently on that Dancing with the Stars show. She is BIG and she has a deep voice to go along with her size. Why isn't anyone calling her obese? She's somewhere in the range of 5'10" and 160-170 lbs. I don't envision Jordan Sparks being much larger than that. What if Jordan put on 15 lbs of muscle from training? Would she still be just fat?

he's right. there's no such thing as being "big boned"... if you actually ARE big boned, you've got some kind of pituitary/endocrine/osteogenic/idiopathic pathology.

he's also right that black people carry a higher risk of having type 2 diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease.

 

[0roo0roo]

Conclusions Prevalence of overweight and obesity was high in London school students, with significant socioeconomic and ethnic inequalities. Little evidence was found of new cases of overweight or obesity emerging over adolescence, but few obese or overweight adolescents reduced to a healthy weight. The results indicate that persistent obesity is established before age 11 and highlight the need to target efforts to prevent obesity in the early years. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/bmj.38807.594792.AEv1?hrss=1

as for bone...just think.... how much bone would a fat person need to give them a body of a fat person?? a truely massive amount you'd expect to see a massive boned person if they lost weight... but you don't see that kind of thing when they cut open fat people during autopsies they dont see big bones, they have to carve down through thick layers of fat.

its just oneof those often repeated lies...say it enough times and it seems true. sort of like how marilyn monroe was fat.... was she really? of course not. yet you see article after article of fat pride always quoting her dress size never mentioning massive dress size inflation. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1385806

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/78/6/1051
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1054184
http://www.aafp.org/fpr/20001100/07.html
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=8804
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

next time, don't be such a fuckhead.

 

[poopaskoopa]

My former co-worker would describe Jordin as "corn-fed".

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Conclusions Prevalence of overweight and obesity was high in London school students, with significant socioeconomic and ethnic inequalities. Little evidence was found of new cases of overweight or obesity emerging over adolescence, but few obese or overweight adolescents reduced to a healthy weight. The results indicate that persistent obesity is established before age 11 and highlight the need to target efforts to prevent obesity in the early years. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/bmj.38807.594792.AEv1?hrss=1

as for bone...just think.... how much bone would a fat person need to give them a body of a fat person?? a truely massive amount you'd expect to see a massive boned person if they lost weight... but you don't see that kind of thing when they cut open fat people during autopsies they dont see big bones, they have to carve down through thick layers of fat.

its just oneof those often repeated lies...say it enough times and it seems true. sort of like how marilyn monroe was fat.... was she really? of course not. yet you see article after article of fat pride always quoting her dress size never mentioning massive dress size inflation. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1385806

:thumbsup:

 

[SampSon]

eits and 0roo0roo
Hello geniuses, it's just a saying. I'm not implying being "big boned" is a literal statement. If you're dumb enough to make that connection, then you both have just taken idiocy to a new level.

Yes I know blacks have a higher rate of thoes diseases, but his statement was nearly verbatim from the fox clip. I simply found that funny, ya know, humor?

Now show me the data proving Jordan Sparks height to weight ratio is out of whack. Then compare that height to weight ratio with a women like Lelia Ali and tell me why Ms. Ali is not "fat".

There simply is no publically available data to show Jordan Sparks is overweight. If you do have this data then post it. Until then it's all speculation and this Meme lady is still a psycho talking head on fox news.

 

[mugs]

In that video, the first person they showed singing was darker skinned and was obese. Then they showed someone who looked to be lighter skinned (could have been lighting) and was definitely not obese. Which is this Jordin Sparks person, or are they both Jordin Sparks at different times?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

The PROPENSITY for obesity is genetic. Environment dictates whether someone with a propensity for obesity becomes obese. There were fewer obese people during the depression, and more today as activity levels have dropped and food is plentiful. HOWEVER, a baby born to skinny parents and adopted by obese parents within the same culture will NOT become obese, and vice/versa.

This is not one study, but a group of studies independently repeated and verified. The results are incontrovertible. It cannot be argued with. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents WILL either be obese, or struggle with their weight for the rest of their lives IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. It is NOT learned. Kids born to skinny parents and adopted at birth by obese parents will never be obese IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. Again, it is not learned.

And this should be obvious to any thinking person. You cannot "learn" a body type.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: SampSon
eits and 0roo0roo
Hello geniuses, it's just a saying. I'm not implying being "big boned" is a literal statement. If you're dumb enough to make that connection, then you both have just taken idiocy to a new level.

Yes I know blacks have a higher rate of thoes diseases, but his statement was nearly verbatim from the fox clip. I simply found that funny, ya know, humor?

Now show me the data proving Jordan Sparks height to weight ratio is out of whack. Then compare that height to weight ratio with a women like Lelia Ali and tell me why Ms. Ali is not "fat".

There simply is no publically available data to show Jordan Sparks is overweight. If you do have this data then post it. Until then it's all speculation and this Meme lady is still a psycho talking head on fox news.
Calling Jordan obese

haha you crack me up i'm not saying that sarcastically or anything... you honestly make me laugh because your posts are funny to me. you just make your insult posts in a humorous manner.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

The PROPENSITY for obesity is genetic. Environment dictates whether someone with a propensity for obesity becomes obese. There were fewer obese people during the depression, and more today as activity levels have dropped and food is plentiful. HOWEVER, a baby born to skinny parents and adopted by obese parents within the same culture will NOT become obese, and vice/versa.

This is not one study, but a group of studies independently repeated and verified. The results are incontrovertible. It cannot be argued with. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents WILL either be obese, or struggle with their weight for the rest of their lives IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. It is NOT learned. Kids born to skinny parents and adopted at birth by obese parents will never be obese IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. Again, it is not learned.

And this should be obvious to any thinking person. You cannot "learn" a body type.

tell that to my friend tony... both of his biological parents were marathon runners and athletes, but he's obese and so is his adopted father and mother... meanwhile, his adopted brother is in tip-top shape and always has been. he's a marine (stationed in baghdad right now).

go back and read the other studies i edited into the post, butthole.

you can't learn a body type, but you can learn behavior, like eating habits and being sedentary. you can learn that happiness comes from a bucket of ice cream or a box of cookies. you can learn that "if mommy and daddy (adopted) do it, it must be ok". you can learn to finish everything that's on your plate. you can learn to always eat desert. you can learn the things that lead to a certain body type... i'm pretty sure any thinking person would realize this.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

The PROPENSITY for obesity is genetic. Environment dictates whether someone with a propensity for obesity becomes obese. There were fewer obese people during the depression, and more today as activity levels have dropped and food is plentiful. HOWEVER, a baby born to skinny parents and adopted by obese parents within the same culture will NOT become obese, and vice/versa.

This is not one study, but a group of studies independently repeated and verified. The results are incontrovertible. It cannot be argued with. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents WILL either be obese, or struggle with their weight for the rest of their lives IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. It is NOT learned. Kids born to skinny parents and adopted at birth by obese parents will never be obese IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. Again, it is not learned.

And this should be obvious to any thinking person. You cannot "learn" a body type.

tell that to my friend tony... both of his biological parents were marathon runners and athletes, but he's obese and so is his adopted father and mother... meanwhile, his adopted brother is in tip-top shape and always has been. he's a marine (stationed in baghdad right now).

go back and read the other studies i edited into the post, butthole.

Butthole? Dude, read the study I posted. Anecdotal evidence is absurd.

And your studies agree with mine. It never claimed environement was not a factor. But that is the over-all environment, not NURTURE. It is not learned. You cannot "learn" a body type.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

The PROPENSITY for obesity is genetic. Environment dictates whether someone with a propensity for obesity becomes obese. There were fewer obese people during the depression, and more today as activity levels have dropped and food is plentiful. HOWEVER, a baby born to skinny parents and adopted by obese parents within the same culture will NOT become obese, and vice/versa.

This is not one study, but a group of studies independently repeated and verified. The results are incontrovertible. It cannot be argued with. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents WILL either be obese, or struggle with their weight for the rest of their lives IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. It is NOT learned. Kids born to skinny parents and adopted at birth by obese parents will never be obese IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. Again, it is not learned.

And this should be obvious to any thinking person. You cannot "learn" a body type.

tell that to my friend tony... both of his biological parents were marathon runners and athletes, but he's obese and so is his adopted father and mother... meanwhile, his adopted brother is in tip-top shape and always has been. he's a marine (stationed in baghdad right now).

go back and read the other studies i edited into the post, butthole.

Butthole? Dude, read the study I posted. Anecdotal evidence is absurd.

i already read it. why should i read it again? it's an obesity study done in the third least obese country in europe. how the hell can you figure that it can easily and directly apply to the united states?

are all the other studies i posted in my post absurd, too? absurd = comparing an obesity study from denmark to obesity in the united states, where socioeconomics, obesity trend, cultural differences, and activity/lifestyle are extremely different.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Amused
Her orginization is ridiculous. There is NO such thing as "second hand obesity." Obesity is not learned or brought on by bad parenting, it is genetic. Fat biological parents have fat kids. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents still become fat and vice versa. The evidence is incontrovertible.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...PubMed&list_uids=8452057&dopt=Abstract

She just needs to STFU. What an ignorant, busy body little bitch.

actually, obesity can be learned and can be brought about by bad parenting. yes, obesity is genetic, too, but it can also be an environmental thing. there are skinny parents who feed their kids whatever they want whenever they want and the kids end up obese. there are also kids who have eating disorders as a result of crappy parenting and/or traumatic family experiences.

the same can be said of obese parents with fit children... it can be a learned thing and/or a genetic thing. it just depends on the circumstances.

Did you read the conclusions of the study?

yes, i read it. i still have the right to disagree with the study, though. more research suggests that both genetics and environment have to do with the obesity issue rather than, predominantly, hereditary genetics.

think about it logically... the results of that study are somewhat suggesting that all over the united states, genes spontaneously started mutating to exhibit a tendency towards obesity... how else would you explain the relatively rapid increase in the density of obese people in america? if genes had more to do with it than environment and lack of activity, improper parenting, socio-economics, etc, then there wouldn't be any other explanation than genes started suddenly mutating to exhibit obesity.

i'm saying that more studies show that it's both nature AND nurture.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...e&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12181381
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=8026816
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=2228394
etc.

just so you know, for every study that says one thing, there are studies that will say another. studies can be made to reflect whatever you want them to. it happens time and time again (look at the point-counterpoint fight going on with marijuana, for example).

The PROPENSITY for obesity is genetic. Environment dictates whether someone with a propensity for obesity becomes obese. There were fewer obese people during the depression, and more today as activity levels have dropped and food is plentiful. HOWEVER, a baby born to skinny parents and adopted by obese parents within the same culture will NOT become obese, and vice/versa.

This is not one study, but a group of studies independently repeated and verified. The results are incontrovertible. It cannot be argued with. Kids born to fat parents and adopted at birth by skinny parents WILL either be obese, or struggle with their weight for the rest of their lives IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. It is NOT learned. Kids born to skinny parents and adopted at birth by obese parents will never be obese IN OUR GIVEN ENVIRONMENT. Again, it is not learned.

And this should be obvious to any thinking person. You cannot "learn" a body type.

tell that to my friend tony... both of his biological parents were marathon runners and athletes, but he's obese and so is his adopted father and mother... meanwhile, his adopted brother is in tip-top shape and always has been. he's a marine (stationed in baghdad right now).

go back and read the other studies i edited into the post, butthole.

Butthole? Dude, read the study I posted. Anecdotal evidence is absurd.

i already read it. why should i read it again? it's an obesity study done in the third least obese country in europe. how the hell can you figure that it can easily and directly apply to the united states?

are all the other studies i posted in my post absurd, too? absurd = comparing an obesity study from denmark to obesity in the united states, where socioeconomics, obesity trend, cultural differences, and activity/lifestyle are extremely different.

"A number of studies, including the Danish adoption study..."

If you would stop arguing with me, and READ the studies you posted along with the studies refered to in the link I posted you would note that they all AGREE with each other. The propensity for obesity is genetic. The environment merely determines how obese that obesity prone person will become based on availablity of food and activity levels.

Environment and nurture are NOT the same. An environement is what the entire family lives in. Nurture is what the parents teach the children. Obesity varies among different environments, but the parents cannot teach a child to change their genetic body type. If the child has a genetic propensity for obesity, they WILL either be fat, or struggle with their weight all their lives in a plentiful environment. If they do not have a genetoc propensity for obesity, they will not gain signifigant weight no matter what environment they live in.

Neither of these things can be "learned."

Quite simply, the fact that skinny kids born to skinny parents adopted at birth by fat parents do not become obese is more than enough proof that obesity cannot be "learned."

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: SampSon
eits and 0roo0roo
Hello geniuses, it's just a saying. I'm not implying being "big boned" is a literal statement. If you're dumb enough to make that connection, then you both have just taken idiocy to a new level.

Yes I know blacks have a higher rate of thoes diseases, but his statement was nearly verbatim from the fox clip. I simply found that funny, ya know, humor?

Now show me the data proving Jordan Sparks height to weight ratio is out of whack. Then compare that height to weight ratio with a women like Lelia Ali and tell me why Ms. Ali is not "fat".

There simply is no publically available data to show Jordan Sparks is overweight. If you do have this data then post it. Until then it's all speculation and this Meme lady is still a psycho talking head on fox news.
Calling Jordan obese

haha you crack me up i'm not saying that sarcastically or anything... you honestly make me laugh because your posts are funny to me. you just make your insult posts in a humorous manner.

Well thank you sir. I will kindly cut you down with a smile on my face and white gloves to boot.

 

[0roo0roo]

height to weight ratio? are you still being funny? heh

height doesn't let you get away with high body fat.

 

[SampSon]

I'll ask you again, it's simple, no funny stuff.

Do you have any imperical data that shows Jordan Sparks is carrying higher than normal body fat?
Do you know her height and her weight? Do you know her percentage of body fat? Do you know say, anything about her?
I know I don't and I'm not pretending I do.

So drop all of your arguments about obesity, studies, diabetes etc. and focus on the topic, Jordan Sparks. I really don't care about the debate between eits, you and Amused, I can join any thread and see that.
There is nothing but speculation and assumptions made by the media and just about everyone in this thread.

What do you have for me besides "well she looks overweight to me"?

 

[crt1530]

Oh Amused. I really can't believe you're arguing with ATOT's self proclaimed chiroquackery expert again.

Personally, I think the woman is right. I'm thinking that there will be a lot of girls who are going to go out and try to gain weight so they can look more like Jordin Sparks. It's going to be a huge health crisis in the next year or so. CocaCola and McDonalds paid a bunch of money to fix the results so people would idolize Jordin and start consuming more of their products to put on the pounds. Let's get noto13ious in here. He'll confirm it.

 

[Jeff7]

I find it more upsetting, and just pathetic, that people actually idolize anyone on American Idol, or many of the other people on TV.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I'll ask you again, it's simple, no funny stuff.

Do you have any imperical data that shows Jordan Sparks is carrying higher than normal body fat?
Do you know her height and her weight? Do you know her percentage of body fat? Do you know say, anything about her?
I know I don't and I'm not pretending I do.

So drop all of your arguments about obesity, studies, diabetes etc. and focus on the topic, Jordan Sparks. I really don't care about the debate between eits, you and Amused, I can join any thread and see that.
There is nothing but speculation and assumptions made by the media and just about everyone in this thread.

What do you have for me besides "well she looks overweight to me"?

You aren't seriously saying that ANYONE can't just look as Ms. Sparks and tell she's overweight, are you?
Nobody NEEDS any facts or figures to know that chick is fat. Overweight. A Heifer.

Nobody needs to see what her actual weight is, and her actual height is. It's beyond obvious.
She's a very pretty girl, but she is overweight, and you don't need to know her height and actual poundage to know that.
I'm sure she'll be put on a diet and exercise program if not already.

You have eyes for a reason. Use them.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: crt1530
Oh Amused. I really can't believe you're arguing with ATOT's self proclaimed chiroquackery expert again.

Just when I thought that I was out, they pull me back in!

/Micheal Corleone

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: SampSon
I'll ask you again, it's simple, no funny stuff.

Do you have any imperical data that shows Jordan Sparks is carrying higher than normal body fat?
Do you know her height and her weight? Do you know her percentage of body fat? Do you know say, anything about her?
I know I don't and I'm not pretending I do.

So drop all of your arguments about obesity, studies, diabetes etc. and focus on the topic, Jordan Sparks. I really don't care about the debate between eits, you and Amused, I can join any thread and see that.
There is nothing but speculation and assumptions made by the media and just about everyone in this thread.

What do you have for me besides "well she looks overweight to me"?

The topic of the thread is actually the lady who is saying these things.

Thread title:

Skinny Blonde Psycho calls Jordin Sparks Obese

I pointed out that one of her organization's basic goals is based on a complete fallacy and goes against valid, peer reviewed and repeated science that shows obesity cannot be "learned."

I also pointed out that she is a busybody little bitch and her organization is the epitome of nanny-statism. But no one commented on that so we didn't discuss it.

 

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