Ski/Snowboarding Trip to Colorado

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SirChadwick

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Thanks for all the great tips guys... I will take it all into consideration. We're going on the trip Feb. 16th so I can't wait!

Time to hit up Goodwill and eBay afterwards so I can score some used gear.

Can anyone suggest some goggles that work well over glasses? I don't wear contacts and can't see worth a sh*t.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Thanks for all the great tips guys... I will take it all into consideration. We're going on the trip Feb. 16th so I can't wait!

Time to hit up Goodwill and eBay afterwards so I can score some used gear.

Can anyone suggest some goggles that work well over glasses? I don't wear contacts and can't see worth a sh*t.
You really have to just try them on. Most aren't made to work over glasses, but the seal around your face is ususally foam so many will as long as your frames aren't too thick.

I have 2 pairs of goggles....1 pair of Smiths and another pair of Dragons. I prefer the Dragons. I recommend going with an amber lense because it really takes care of the glare and provides you with good UV blockage. Only problem is that after wearing them, everything will look bright. :p Just remember when you go, it will be painful the first time....but you only have to make it until 4pm. Take some good Makers Mark and hit the hot tub at night.....you'll be ready to go the next day. :thumbsup:
 

SirChadwick

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Thanks for all the great tips guys... I will take it all into consideration. We're going on the trip Feb. 16th so I can't wait!

Time to hit up Goodwill and eBay afterwards so I can score some used gear.

Can anyone suggest some goggles that work well over glasses? I don't wear contacts and can't see worth a sh*t.
You really have to just try them on. Most aren't made to work over glasses, but the seal around your face is ususally foam so many will as long as your frames aren't too thick.

I have 2 pairs of goggles....1 pair of Smiths and another pair of Dragons. I prefer the Dragons. I recommend going with an amber lense because it really takes care of the glare and provides you with good UV blockage. Only problem is that after wearing them, everything will look bright. :p Just remember when you go, it will be painful the first time....but you only have to make it until 4pm. Take some good Makers Mark and hit the hot tub at night.....you'll be ready to go the next day. :thumbsup:

That last sentence makes me even more thrilled about this trip! If I didn't have a fiancee, I'd like to add a few women in bikinis to that hot tub.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Thanks for all the great tips guys... I will take it all into consideration. We're going on the trip Feb. 16th so I can't wait!

Time to hit up Goodwill and eBay afterwards so I can score some used gear.

Can anyone suggest some goggles that work well over glasses? I don't wear contacts and can't see worth a sh*t.
You really have to just try them on. Most aren't made to work over glasses, but the seal around your face is ususally foam so many will as long as your frames aren't too thick.

I have 2 pairs of goggles....1 pair of Smiths and another pair of Dragons. I prefer the Dragons. I recommend going with an amber lense because it really takes care of the glare and provides you with good UV blockage. Only problem is that after wearing them, everything will look bright. :p Just remember when you go, it will be painful the first time....but you only have to make it until 4pm. Take some good Makers Mark and hit the hot tub at night.....you'll be ready to go the next day. :thumbsup:

That last sentence makes me even more thrilled about this trip! If I didn't have a fiancee, I'd like to add a few women in bikinis to that hot tub.
She can always jump in with you... :p

BTW...when's your trip?
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Thanks for all the great tips guys... I will take it all into consideration. We're going on the trip Feb. 16th so I can't wait!

Time to hit up Goodwill and eBay afterwards so I can score some used gear.

Can anyone suggest some goggles that work well over glasses? I don't wear contacts and can't see worth a sh*t.
You really have to just try them on. Most aren't made to work over glasses, but the seal around your face is ususally foam so many will as long as your frames aren't too thick.

I have 2 pairs of goggles....1 pair of Smiths and another pair of Dragons. I prefer the Dragons. I recommend going with an amber lense because it really takes care of the glare and provides you with good UV blockage. Only problem is that after wearing them, everything will look bright. :p Just remember when you go, it will be painful the first time....but you only have to make it until 4pm. Take some good Makers Mark and hit the hot tub at night.....you'll be ready to go the next day. :thumbsup:

That last sentence makes me even more thrilled about this trip! If I didn't have a fiancee, I'd like to add a few women in bikinis to that hot tub.
She can always jump in with you... :p

BTW...when's your trip?

He said Feb 16.
I'll be in Keystone Feb 9-16.
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
In 00-01, I put in a ski lift at Keystone.

Make sure that you dress with warm layered clothing.

Also, If you are not used to the altitude; plan on taking it easy the first day. You become winded very very early.

Damm, so you're a CPA and a ski lift builder.
Thats impressive :)
 

marulee

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I wanna go to ski or snowboarding so badly.. Last time I enjoyed was more than 10 years ago... :(
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: MX2times
Meh....Breck is overated and too crowded IMO, but that might be your thing especially being a newb to the slopes. For your first time, you'll probably have more fun on a snowboard than skis, first time out on skis can get you frustrated quickly. Rent your board/skis and boots there onsite.

A simple pair of ski bibs will serve you well, but I suggest a decent pair of water/snow proof pants that will keep you warm and wear some thermals underneath. Personally I dont feel as movement restricted that way. Get a coat that has a zip out lining with a water proof breathable shell. You think it will be cold all the time up there but once you get to playing and having fun, you may soon discover you need to break down some layers to stay comfortable. Dont forget a beanie of some sort that will cover your ears. You are likely to find some suitable gear at a Goodwill or Salvation Army stores. I have seen lots of used ski gear in those places from time to time. Goggles arent really necessary IMO if you can find a cheap pair of UV protection wrap around sunglasses. Make sure your gloves are comfy and waterproof also.

WEAR SUNSCREEN ON ANY EXPOSED SKIN AREAS ON YOUR FACE, and make it a high SPF rating. Sunburn at altitude is the worst:(

DRINK LOTS OF LIQUIDS. Altitude sickness is real, and it sucks:(

Bring granola bars, pop tarts, and beef jerky. That way you dont have to stop skiing to eat;)

Have fun!


Yes: Sunscrean, water, granola bars are key. Breck rocks though. I've only skiied there twice, but it's a good all-around spot for someone learning. I go to the area 1-2 times per year. A-Basin is my favorite...but not what I'd recommend for a first-timer. I will be up in 3 weeks. My buddy has a conference at Keystone, and finagled a free condo for the week. We tend to ski A-Basin, Keystone (only if it has just snowed--Keystone is either the worst, or one of the best slopes in Summit county depending on fresh powder.), Breck, or Copper. Vale is nice too... ;)

Don't rent your stuff at the resort. If you can, go to Christie's in Denver, or even outsdie of the resort and just keep your boots and skis/snoboard with you. Rent for the duration of your trip, and you save more than you would at the resort.

Whether you choose to ski or board, stick with one of them. I've only ever skiied, and have no desire to board (it took me long enough to get comfortable skiing, and learning to board at this point would be too frustrating/difficult)

Make sure you're prepared to stay dry. You will be falling a lot, and it sucks when you spend the whole day wet and freezing. Breck is ~12-15k feet. It feels much colder there than the actual temperature, and you will get tired faster than you would at lower elevations. Keep that in mind...and make sure you hydrate, including the day before you ski.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: SandInMyShoes
I think some people are skiers, some are boarders, and some are both. I was very comfortable with skiing in less than two days. At the end of my day of boarding, my wrists were very sore, and I was still on the bunny slope.

Some tips: Cheap Gore-tex bib pants and a jacket from eBay are what I wear, they keep me warm and dry. Layers are key. I layer up with a flannel jacket or three underneath, depending on how cold it is. My legs have been good down to 10F or so with just jeans and bibs on. Socks are important; Spend the $10 or so and grab a pair of SmartWool or some other sock with a good wicking action that's comfortable. Cotton socks are can make for a miserable day, especially if they happen to get wet. For headgear, I personally prefer a balaclava to a stocking hat; my face is sensitive to cold, though. Cheap goggles will suffice, but they tend to fog easily if you exhale onto them, or if you work up a steady sweat. The worst thing you can do is take them off and/or wipe them off, especially on the inside. They'll clear faster if you just leave them on. If you wipe off the anti-fog coating, some Kat Krap (available at ski shops) will really help.

If you decide to go with the skis, here's a few tips that might really help keep you on your feet in turns; I just wish somebody had told me from the get-go!
~Don't snowplow/wedge to stop. Keep your skis parallel and turn to the side hard enough to break traction, so you're sliding sideways down the hill. If you keep your skis parallel, you're still in control and can pull out of the slide when you want. If you're making a right-hand turn, shift your weight to your LEFT leg, lean into the turn, and turn your ankles in so you're on the right-side edges on your skis. It take a bit of practice, but the sooner you get to where you can shift alot of weight to your outside ski, the better. The idea is to have the inside (uphill) edge of your downhill (outside) ski control your turn, with your uphill ski just following along for the ride. The two keys here are to get used to transferring your weight to that downhill ski; I was nervous at first, but once I got used to putting all my weight on the downhill ski, my turn abilities improved immensely. The other key is to turn those ankles in far enough that the downhill edges on your skis don't catch on bumps or patches of snow.

Another important tip for when you are finally comfortable with skiing but want to improve your turns some more: Keep your chest and shoulders pointed downhill, and focus your eyes on where you want to go. Your lower body should be making the turns, so you there's much less negative transfer of momentum. I was a mediocre skier for days, not comfortable with taking steep runs since I couldn't carve turns back and forth very fast. Once someone took 30 minutes to coach me on keeping my upper body pointed downhill throughout the turns, and to throw all my weight on the outside ski, I suddenly was tearing up the worst Copper Mountain had to offer, and it felt easy. :)

If you want cheap rentals, go to Virgin Islands ski shop in Dillon. It's on the west side of the main drag in a strip mall, just south of I-70. Last season skis/boots/poles could be had for $12/day, and snowboards/boots for $20/day. That was much cheaper than any other place I've priced in Summit County.


Good advice; esp about renting in Dillon ;)

Also, when you make turns(on skis), you want to do it with your torso/arms. If you want to turn left, bring your right arm across like your throwing a hook, and pivot your body with the turn. Turn right by bringing your left arm across your body as you rotate. If you can learn this early on, it will be a huge help. Keeps you from using your back and too much of your legs to turn, which drains energy fast. (And makes for a very sore morning when you wake up)
 

Scarpozzi

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They sell ski-mask type hoods. I recommend getting one if the temp. is below 20 degrees. Get one that has a hole big enough for the rim of your goggles to make full contact with your skin. Also, don't take your goggles off unless you're indoors...get some anti-fog solution or buy an anti-fog wipe. If you put your goggles on your head, they'll fog for sure. :p

As for snowboarding, if you've never done it, make sure you have some thick snowboard pants with good padding on your knees. You'll also want to invest in wrist guards as sprained wrists are the number 1 injury. Get a helmet and remember if you lose control, just fall and use the board as a brake. It will stop you if you dig the edge in.


When falling, attempt to land on your chest or upper back as often as possible, but wear a helmet. If you catch an edge, your forward momentum can throw you face first or worse, back first into the slopes hard. Landing on your chest requires rolling your body into the fall. This will avoid lower back and butt-bone injuries that are common when the slopes are icy. (especially on man-made snow) My friend in Vail told me they got very little snow compared to the blizzards that hit the foothills. Hopefully they'll get more snow this month.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SandInMyShoes
I think some people are skiers, some are boarders, and some are both. I was very comfortable with skiing in less than two days. At the end of my day of boarding, my wrists were very sore, and I was still on the bunny slope.

Some tips: Cheap Gore-tex bib pants and a jacket from eBay are what I wear, they keep me warm and dry. Layers are key. I layer up with a flannel jacket or three underneath, depending on how cold it is. My legs have been good down to 10F or so with just jeans and bibs on. Socks are important; Spend the $10 or so and grab a pair of SmartWool or some other sock with a good wicking action that's comfortable. Cotton socks are can make for a miserable day, especially if they happen to get wet. For headgear, I personally prefer a balaclava to a stocking hat; my face is sensitive to cold, though. Cheap goggles will suffice, but they tend to fog easily if you exhale onto them, or if you work up a steady sweat. The worst thing you can do is take them off and/or wipe them off, especially on the inside. They'll clear faster if you just leave them on. If you wipe off the anti-fog coating, some Kat Krap (available at ski shops) will really help.

If you decide to go with the skis, here's a few tips that might really help keep you on your feet in turns; I just wish somebody had told me from the get-go!
~Don't snowplow/wedge to stop. Keep your skis parallel and turn to the side hard enough to break traction, so you're sliding sideways down the hill. If you keep your skis parallel, you're still in control and can pull out of the slide when you want. If you're making a right-hand turn, shift your weight to your LEFT leg, lean into the turn, and turn your ankles in so you're on the right-side edges on your skis. It take a bit of practice, but the sooner you get to where you can shift alot of weight to your outside ski, the better. The idea is to have the inside (uphill) edge of your downhill (outside) ski control your turn, with your uphill ski just following along for the ride. The two keys here are to get used to transferring your weight to that downhill ski; I was nervous at first, but once I got used to putting all my weight on the downhill ski, my turn abilities improved immensely. The other key is to turn those ankles in far enough that the downhill edges on your skis don't catch on bumps or patches of snow.

Another important tip for when you are finally comfortable with skiing but want to improve your turns some more: Keep your chest and shoulders pointed downhill, and focus your eyes on where you want to go. Your lower body should be making the turns, so you there's much less negative transfer of momentum. I was a mediocre skier for days, not comfortable with taking steep runs since I couldn't carve turns back and forth very fast. Once someone took 30 minutes to coach me on keeping my upper body pointed downhill throughout the turns, and to throw all my weight on the outside ski, I suddenly was tearing up the worst Copper Mountain had to offer, and it felt easy. :)

If you want cheap rentals, go to Virgin Islands ski shop in Dillon. It's on the west side of the main drag in a strip mall, just south of I-70. Last season skis/boots/poles could be had for $12/day, and snowboards/boots for $20/day. That was much cheaper than any other place I've priced in Summit County.


Good advice; esp about renting in Dillon ;)

Also, when you make turns(on skis), you want to do it with your torso/arms. If you want to turn left, bring your right arm across like your throwing a hook, and pivot your body with the turn. Turn right by bringing your left arm across your body as you rotate. If you can learn this early on, it will be a huge help. Keeps you from using your back and too much of your legs to turn, which drains energy fast. (And makes for a very sore morning when you wake up)
That's next to Walmart, if I remember correctly. Agreed...they're good. They waxed one of my boards for me and did a pretty good job. Also, be sure to buy your lift tickets at a Kings Super to get a discount. You can usually get a multi-pass that will give you the option of going to Breck, Vail, and Keystone.... Usually they limit your Vail visits though due to the difference in the price.
 

novasatori

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
copper mountain.

+1 vote

I always ski copper mountain. Last two times I went there were blizzards and one trip was in the huge blizzard and there was 6+' of snow, and fresh powder every morning for like three days, and 12' of snow packed on the side of the highways. They had the cats running all night. It was some beautiful skiing, and almost no one was up there, only the people who stayed on site. I like to rent on site, and stay on site so I can take the bus and don't get bushed trying to walk all the way from the parking lot to the lifts carrying gear.

I can ski and snowboard, snowboarding was fun but wore me out kind of fast. I enjoy skiing as it doesn't wear my out as fast, and I'm much more advanced at it so I can go anywhere on the mountain. Maybe some day I'll be as good at snowboarding.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: novasatori
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
copper mountain.

+1 vote

I always ski copper mountain. Last two times I went there were blizzards and one trip was in the huge blizzard and there was 6+' of snow, and fresh powder every morning for like three days, and 12' of snow packed on the side of the highways. They had the cats running all night. It was some beautiful skiing, and almost no one was up there, only the people who stayed on site. I like to rent on site, and stay on site so I can take the bus and don't get bushed trying to walk all the way from the parking lot to the lifts carrying gear.

I can ski and snowboard, snowboarding was fun but wore me out kind of fast. I enjoy skiing as it doesn't wear my out as fast, and I'm much more advanced at it so I can go anywhere on the mountain. Maybe some day I'll be as good at snowboarding.


Those are the days when I would have headed to Keystone. They rarely hav good snow...but when they do, they're tough to beat.

Last year my pal and I were at A-Basin the night after a heavy snow. It was coming down hard at the op; visibility was maybe 2 feet. Had to come down from there; but I've never seen better skiing in the area...except maybe Vail the next day!

EDIT: But I like copper too. it's a good deal for the area...but A-Basin gives teh best deals by far. next to the $20 lift specials, what other slopes have 1552 on draft? ;)