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Sunbird

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I think, with the camera thing, the punk with cam was actually still on mall property the first time, don't know rules about that.

 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Sunbird
I think, with the camera thing, the punk with cam was actually still on mall property the first time, don't know rules about that.

so what if he was on mall property, that doesnt give the mall security guard any more right to hit the camera man than being off of it does.

MIKE
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Sunbird
I think, with the camera thing, the punk with cam was actually still on mall property the first time, don't know rules about that.

so what if he was on mall property, that doesnt give the mall security guard any more right to hit the camera man than being off of it does.

MIKE

If you tell someone to leave private property, and they do not, I believe you have the right to force them off your property.
 

Sunbird

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I thought he was trying to grab the camera the first time, and still do. Maybe the mall has a law against camera usage too. I know a mall like that.

But when they were of the property, things chanced.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: noto12ious
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Once they were on the public sidewalk the "guard" needed to leave them alone, no matter what they did to provoke him. If the skaters decide to sue, they'll win.

really? the security guard never touched the skater until the skater provoked him physically with the skateboard... then went towards security guard and tried to grab him around the neck. not to mention the skater threw the first punch.

sounds like 3 strikes against him.

Did you not watch the video? first, the skaters never touched the guy before he went after the camera FIRST. Then when the camera guy went to get his bag, the security guard again jumped at him and started chasing him a little, missing him. then when the skater was OFF the property, on the public sidewalk he put his skateboard down. he SLIGHTY TOUCHED THE SECURITY GUARDS FOOT with the skateboard, and THEN the security guard went and grabbed is skateboard from him. the skater then tries to get it back, and the security guard throws him to the ground. THEN the skater punches him.

that kid had every damn right to punch him. would you just let someone throw you down and do nothing about it? it sure as hell wouldnt. that security guard was the biggest punk in that video. yea he's a reall good guy, he got in a fight and punched a 14 year old, sounds like great dinner talk for his wife ...

Wife: Hey honey how was work?
Man: Oh it was good, i beat up some 14 year old because I took his skateboard from him when he was skating on the public sidewalk.

what a god damn loser ... probably doesn't even have a wife actually.
 

Al Neri

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only thing that i dont get is why did the friends just watch that happen? if a security guard did that to my friend i would have speared the sh1t out of him.. there were like 4 friends they could have jumped him...

pusses
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Bottom line is, the kids obviously did something to really piss the security guy off before the film starts, otherwise he probably wouldn't have followed them all the way to the street.
Then, the little punk kept hanging around instead of leaving. He deserved to get his ass beat. Too bad the security guard didn't kick his ass worse.

Whether the guard SHOULD have fought him isn't the point to me....the kid is a punk who was hanging around purposely trying to provoke the guard, and he got his wish.

he's a fvcking MAN, the other one is a KID. i think the MAN, in a professional environment on his JOB, should have had a little more self control than the KID did. wow, some of the replies on here just shock me. i guess some of you grew up in very sheltered areas.
 

Sunbird

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Originally posted by: matstars
only thing that i dont get is why did the friends just watch that happen? if a security guard did that to my friend i would have speared the sh1t out of him.. there were like 4 friends they could have jumped him...

pusses

I agree
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: shilala
Imagine a State Trooper dealing with a situation the way that tard did.
Well that Skater would have been in a bigger world of hurt!

It'd have never gone to that point, I'm sure. If it did that kid would still be nursin the lumps on his gourd :D
 

thelanx

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The security guard acted totally unprofessionally. Whatever the kids did before, short of physical assault, the guard should have shrugged off once the kids started walking away. He acted like he wanted to provode a fight, saying "your a bad kid...next time I'll break your arm...you're going down." Those words have no purpose other than to provoke the kid and challenge the kid and put pressure on the kid to stand up for himself rather than walk away. Basically, if the guard had STFU and stayed at his post, the kids would have probably walked away. By taunting them and then going after the cameraman, he was way out of line and basically invoked the incident. Yes the kid rolled over his foot, but that was just an excuse to release the tension in the situation that the security guard was mostly responsible for. Sorry, but it looks like the security guard is the punk here, unless the kids did something really bad to him.

edit: mistakes heh said cameraman instead of security guard.
 

James3shin

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hahah "professionally" You folks do know that they are skaters, not "professionals" That guard shouldn't have touched that guys camera. As for the board hitting the guards foot, it wasn't anything intentional, just trying to get out of the way. I used to skate and got told to leave premises all the time, we usually left with no hassle, sometimes guards did try to provoke us, but we usually just left and came back a hour later or so. Man getting chased by metro cops in DC was no joke back in the day, we had to haul ass.
 

olds

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Personally I don't care who started what. I am just glad the skater got beat down as most teenagers need an attitude adjustment.
But then I grew up in a different era, not this pansyfied society we have now. Now days everyone is a victim and no one is responsible for their actions.
When I was a kid if you talked back to an adult you got smacked in the mouth. You didn't see thug wannabes roaming the streets and causing trouble.
 

Al Neri

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Originally posted by: thelanx
The cameraman acted totally unprofessionally. Whatever the kids did before, short of physical assault, the guard should have shrugged off once the kids started walking away. He acted like he wanted to provode a fight, saying "your a bad kid...next time I'll break your arm...you're going down." Those words have no purpose other than to provoke the kid and challenge the kid and put pressure on the kid to stand up for himself rather than walk away. Basically, if the guard had STFU and stayed at his post, the kids would have probably walked away. By taunting them and then going after the cameraman, he was way out of line and basically invoked the incident. Yes the kid rolled over his foot, but that was just an excuse to release the tension in the situation that the security guard was mostly responsible for. Sorry, but it looks like the security guard is the punk here, unless the kids did something really bad to him.

cameraman looked not a day older than 8
 

Dissipate

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I work security and I can tell you right now, that security guard should be fired.
 

Schrodinger

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I dislike skaters who use private property and buildings. That said, once they hit the curb it was no longer his domain to police and he was acting like a powertripping loser.

But he is a security guard so what do you expect? He probably goes home and drowns his GED-equivalent ass in a bottle every night. Five dollars says he commits suicide by the time he is 40.

Edit: And I've worked security so I can confirm most of them are complete douchebags.
 

trmiv

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Meh, I'm with Amused, the whole thing looks staged. The entire first part just sounds like poor high school play acting.
 

suse920

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It was the guard's fault all the way. The kid was nervous so he started playing with his board. The board didnt hurt the guy. The guy jsust used it as an excuse to take the board away. He knew the kid would fight back to get the board and it showed that he was an asshat. I have been told to get of preperty because of skating, and i don't see myself as a thug. The kid wasnt doing the much to the guy. He should be fired.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: Challenger
I wonder why the punks didn't video tape what they did to provoke the security guard.Typical punks of today, start something they can't finish and then become the victim :roll:

Agreed.

It always amazes me the self-righteousness with which skaters whine about security guards and rules and regs regarding skating on business property. I'd love to see skateboarding in a prohibited area punishable by a $250 fine to the parents.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: OulOat
Haha, punk got owned. Notice how his pansy "friends" didn't help. Typical punks.

I wish his "friends" would have all jumped in there and beat the crap out of that rent a cop. He has no authority to do anything other than simply ask people to leave. And since they were on the public sidewalk too.

But all in all, oh well.
 

Rainsford

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I think the security guard could have acted much more professionally (but what do you expect, he IS a security guard), but all we saw was some skater punk video, who knows what happened before the video started.
 

OffTopic1

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Haha, punk got owned. Notice how his pansy "friends" didn't help. Typical punks.
Gang jump a guy could land you a law suit & jail time. They are right to stay out, and video the event will help them as evident that the security guard is an a-hole.

I wonder why the punks didn't video tape what they did to provoke the security guard.Typical punks of today, start something they can't finish and then become the victim
Provoke or not it didn't warrant hitting. His job is to keep kids off the building property, not fighting.

Personally I don't care who started what. I am just glad the skater got beat down as most teenagers need an attitude adjustment.
But then I grew up in a different era, not this pansyfied society we have now. Now days everyone is a victim and no one is responsible for their actions.
When I was a kid if you talked back to an adult you got smacked in the mouth. You didn't see thug wannabes roaming the streets and causing trouble.
I can see kids fight because they don't know better, but adult supposedly are grownup therefore shouldn?t resolved to violent. I use to get beaten up by my abusive/alcoholic/wife-beater dad, and I don?t think it make me a better man than my peers. What happen to diplomacy & education?
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Originally posted by: OulOat
Haha, punk got owned. Notice how his pansy "friends" didn't help. Typical punks.

I wish his "friends" would have all jumped in there and beat the crap out of that rent a cop. He has no authority to do anything other than simply ask people to leave. And since they were on the public sidewalk too.

But all in all, oh well.

This is the attitude problem that got the idiot beat down. Calling him Mr. Security guard, etc. That's bullsh!t -- he's doing his job and they were acting like punks. They stuck around trying to provoke things and were very slow about walking off the property. Fvck 'em they got what they deserved.