Six Killed, Several Injured in U.S. Shooting in Wisconsin

[TerryMathews]

Too stupid is my vote.

Likely an NRA member or a Tea Party member also.

Probably another OWS member/Obama voter.

Tea partiers are usually law abiding.

 

[cybrsage]

If guns were illegal we wouldn't have shootings like this......

My sarcasm detector went off.

 

[micrometers]

Probably another OWS member/Obama voter.

Tea partiers are usually law abiding.

Tea Party'ers are the ones who want to spread guns far and wide in society, which is how this guy got guns.

 

[TerryMathews]

Right, so the only thing we can really do is limit access to deadly guns across the board.

edit: different laws are meant to help in different situations. Waiting periods would not have helped in this situation, but they help in others where someone is hot-headed.

Isn't it funny how these criminals keep targeting places where people are legally prohibited from defending themselves?

We need to outlaw criminal protection zones.

 

[micrometers]

Isn't it funny how these criminals keep targeting places where people are legally prohibited from defending themselves?

We need to outlaw criminal protection zones.

Indians generally aren't gun-crazy.

Guys like this is why maybe we should have more "jack-booted thugs" coming to get your guns.

 

[techs]

This is why the only guns that should be allowed are the types that require you to load each and every shot by hand.

You mean like the guns they had when they wrote the Constitution?

 

[techs]

Probably another OWS member/Obama voter.

Tea partiers are usually law abiding.

They only advocate killing elected representitives and taking up arms against the government.
Which I have seen since I attended a Tea Party rally and read the signs and listened to the speakers.

 

[micrometers]

They only advocate killing elected representitives and taking up arms against the government.
Which I have seen since I attended a Tea Party rally and read the signs and listened to the speakers.

But they generally talk about using guns to injure people.

 

[TerryMathews]

Tea Party'ers are the ones who want to spread guns far and wide in society, which is how this guy got guns.

Yes we do, because these gun crimes ramped up when we started aggressive gun control legislation in the 60s and 70s.

You know, once upon a time, we weren't afraid of guns and people typically behaved themselves.

 

[SheHateMe]

Bald white men, eh? So why did he do it?

 

[TerryMathews]

They only advocate killing elected representitives and taking up arms against the government.
Which I have seen since I attended a Tea Party rally and read the signs and listened to the speakers.

And in fairness that's as lawful as you can get: it's the literal purpose of the second amendment

 

[micrometers]

And in fairness that's as lawful as you can get: it's the literal purpose of the second amendment

that's utterly lawless. wtf are you talking about. 2nd amendment was about maintinence of state militia. not about killing elected representatives.

if you're unhappy, vote them out.

Not near as dramatic, but effective.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Waiting periods make absolute sense... because criminals are most likely to buy their guns from a retail store like Walmart...

Oh wait... no they dont.:\

Actually, they might, they might also file off the serial number making it an ILLEGAL gun in five minutes.

If i needed a gun for a crime i'd buy it legally and file off the serial number, drop the gun and that would be one more illegal gun COMPLETELY unrelated to gun crime using legal guns OR the sale of legal guns.

I think it's strange how gullible you are on this matter.

 

[TerryMathews]

that's utterly lawless. wtf are you talking about. 2nd amendment was about maintinence of state militia. not about killing elected representatives.

if you're unhappy, vote them out.

Not near as dramatic, but effective.

Have you ever read the Federalist Papers?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

that's utterly lawless. wtf are you talking about. 2nd amendment was about maintinence of state militia. not about killing elected representatives.

if you're unhappy, vote them out.

Not near as dramatic, but effective.

Nope, the second amendment was about throwing a corrupt government out and to do that they needed state of the art weaponry which at the time was a handgun.

Now, today those handguns would be useless, either you'd get the support of the armed forces and then you'd win or you would not get their support in which case no amount of handguns would suffice.

The second amendment has NOTHING to do with self defense, having a gun for target practice or anything like that, it's ONLY there so that the people could overthrow a tyrannical government thereby leaving the power in the hands of the people.

Today, like most laws and statues made around that point in time that refer to the technology of the time, it's a left over kept because it gives fat weak cowards the sense of being in control.

 

[TerryMathews]

Nope, the second amendment was about throwing a corrupt government out and to do that they needed state of the art weaponry which at the time was a handgun.

Now, today those handguns would be useless, either you'd get the support of the armed forces and then you'd win or you would not get their support in which case no amount of handguns would suffice.

The second amendment has NOTHING to do with self defense, having a gun for target practice or anything like that, it's ONLY there so that the people could overthrow a tyrannical government thereby leaving the power in the hands of the people.

Today, like most laws and statues made around that point in time that refer to the technology of the time, it's a left over kept because it gives fat weak cowards the sense of being in control.

Exactly right.

And you and I never agree.

 

[slayer202]

how about we update the most ridiculous and outdated amendment

 

[techs]

I live in a state where we have a lot of hunters and therefore a ton of guns. Its also pretty easy to get a ccw.

Yet gun crime is very, very low. And very few people bother to get ccw permits.

Thats because of education and politics. Children aren't taught some macho bullshit eye for an eye, a gun makes you man, b.s. that's pretty prevalent in a lot of America.

Plus our politicians don't go around trying to terrify people about how terrorists want to eat your baby and how illegal aliens want to rape your wife and the government wants to come into your home and take your stuff and give it to poor people.

We have a word that describes the kind of life we lead here.

Civilized.

 

[micrometers]

I live in a state where we have a lot of hunters and therefore a ton of guns. Its also pretty easy to get a ccw.

Yet gun crime is very, very low. And very few people bother to get ccw permits.

Thats because of education and politics. Children aren't taught some macho bullshit eye for an eye, a gun makes you man, b.s. that's pretty prevalent in a lot of America.

Plus our politicians don't go around trying to terrify people about how terrorists want to eat your baby and how illegal aliens want to rape your wife and the government wants to come into your home and take your stuff and give it to poor people.

We have a word that describes the kind of life we lead here.

Civilized.

you live in a rural area.

If you've ever spent time in an urban area, you would understand why more guns is an incredibly bad idea.

 

[TerryMathews]

how about we update the most ridiculous and outdated amendment

Which one? I've heard liberals exasperated at the first, second, fourth, and fifth. They're all equally outdated.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Exactly right.

And you and I never agree.

I wouldn't say "never", i'd say that as most classical liberals i agree with the sane ideas of all sides and so we would be destined to agree on some things.

 

[Phokus]

Probably another OWS member/Obama voter.

Tea partiers are usually law abiding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting

During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years.

Also, remember the tea partier who stomped on a liberal's head while she was on the ground? The one spidey cheered?

 

[techs]

you live in a rural area.

If you've ever spent time in an urban area, you would understand why more guns is an incredibly bad idea.

I grew up in the US's biggest city and lived in a tough part of town.

 

[Wreckem]

Yes we do, because these gun crimes ramped up when we started aggressive gun control legislation in the 60s and 70s.

You know, once upon a time, we weren't afraid of guns and people typically behaved themselves.

"aggressive" gun control laws in the 1960s/1970s?

Seriously. You are going to call them aggressive?

I guess dealers shouldn't be licensed.

Hell, the most "aggressive" gun control measures came in the 1990s. Guess what peaked in the 1990s? Both crimes and gun crimes.

And truthfully, there never has been any real aggressive gun control in the US.

 

[Wreckem]

Which one? I've heard liberals exasperated at the first, second, fourth, and fifth. They're all equally outdated.

You are completely out of your mind and/or completely uneducated on the matters for which you speak.

Liberals have far more protected the 1st(speech, press, and assembly), 4th and 5th than conservatives had.