Single mother fired for saving a life . . .

[weezergirl]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: notfred

told CBC News Online that McAulay was out "joy-riding" with her friend.

This sounds entirely true to me. Why the hell else was she deliviering pizzas with friends in the car?

Why did the daughter call her mom instead of an ambulance? They should have told her to call an ambulance right away, not drove over to his house and see if they could help. They problably didn't call an ambulance cause they have warrants out for thier arrest, or live in a crack house or something. So, they decided they'd try and do a job they weren't qualified for, so that they could hide from the police. And she got fired for it. She probably deserved it. In my experience, people who wont call an ambulance when they get shot aren't typically what you'd call model citizens, and neither are the poeple they hang around with.

I think you are making a lot of rather paranoid logical leaps based on little or no evidence. Presumably the daughter was a child, who used questionable judgment in calling her mother rather than an ambulance. The mother, and her friend, may in fact have called an ambulance (since we know one came, along with the police).

lol. that's what i was thinking..crackhouse?! dude, if i was a little kid i'd call my parents first too. maybe she just heard gunshots and wasn't sure what to do next. or maybe there were adults who witnessed it and called the ambulance already and she just called her mom to notify her of what happened. who knows.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So doing nothing that her friend couldn't have done (or anyone else on the scene for that matter) for the man who was shot gets her a free pass to be careless with company funds and to use company time to drive friends around? She should NOT have been driving friends on company time, that alone is enough to warrant the firing.

ZV

Ditto.

 

[tcsenter]

Police detained McAulay for questioning, and when she reported back to Frank's Pizza her supervisor, Jason Boyd, fired her. "We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

I can't say I disagree with that. It was not as though during the course of her job she happened upon a man shot. No, she actually drove across town TO a shooting after receiving a call from the friend's daughter. What was her 'friend' doing in the car while she was working, anyway?

I suspect this was the culmination of more than just this incident.

 

[Lithium381]

sucks for franks's pizza

 

[Apathetic]

I am just completely STUNNED. I hope this bastard rots in hell. :|

Dave

 

[Storm]

Well she shouldnt have been joy-riding with a friend that can warrant a firing. The manager is not very bright for firing her after she helped out the wounded people. He deserves the bad press, he could of given her a warning that she shouldnt have been joy-riding and not fired her. If he was concerned whether or not she's moonlighting on the job, he should have tailed her or gotten another employee to tail her.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: AnimeKnight
In February, she was driving with a friend in her pizza car when the friend's daughter called to say there had been a shooting on her street. McAulay drove her friend home, but as she pulled up one of two shooting victims called for help.


I dont' know both sides of stories but what is she doing driving with a friend during working hour? If she doesn't have a legit excuse for driving around with her friend then she deserve to be fired :|

wtf is wrong with you people? if shes still doing her job wtf cares if she has her friend there to talk to or not?

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Originally posted by: weezergirl

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So doing nothing that her friend couldn't have done (or anyone else on the scene for that matter) for the man who was shot gets her a free pass to be careless with company funds and to use company time to drive friends around? She should NOT have been driving friends on company time, that alone is enough to warrant the firing.

ZV

Sure that is fine if that was the reason he fired her but did you read this quote?

"We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

Sorry, but if he was firing her for the specific reasons you stated....a comment like this is just STUPID and shows he has NO heart or brains whatsoever. I don't care if he was just running a business, I'd like to eat at a place that cares about people in general and not just money.

This story is completely one sided though. Franks probably meant they aren't paying people to waste time.

Though this was a bad time to fire her, and she should have gotten a warning about driving friends around, thats all. The mother also drove the friend to her house before bothering to help the people, she should have just called police or an ambulance. I think the mother didn't do it right at all. The mother should just get a warning about driving friends around though, and not fired.

 

[dxkj]

Having a friend in the car while delivering pizza's isnt out of the question. This is her car, a friend can be in it if she wants her to be.


Either way, Frank Fvcked himself, and apparently lacks most of his brain

 

[rh71]

I agree with the people who rated the business a "5" on the site (instead of the lowest 1). You don't know what the media has left out and it's obvious this isn't unbiased reporting.

 

[zCypher]

That's fcking retarded! Everyone I know who's done delivery has had friends in the car w/them at one point or another. It's not like it cuts down on productivity - wtf? It's just like those people who think playing music in the background in a warehouse type job would be counterproductive.. wtf, it would help productivity cause it would keep morale up and people would be in a good mood, hence work better/faster. Same g'damn thing here... people in a better mood hanging out with a friend while driving around - does good job. not like you can screw up deliery anyway.

Anyway it's just a freaking delivery job... wtf does this guy think he is and what kind of business does he think he's running? lol. what next, you need to be highly professional, wear a suit and tie, etc etc.. for delivery? LOL!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: rh71
I agree with the people who rated the business a "5" on the site (instead of the lowest 1). You don't know what the media has left out and it's obvious this isn't unbiased reporting.

Frankly, I think it is even dumber to rate it as a "5" without having eaten there or having firsthand info about the incident than it would be to rate it as a "1" based on the story as written. In my view, Jason Boyd's quote alone is reason enough to boycott the place. If she had a derogatory employment history there, he should have referred to that, not to this incident, as the basis of her termination. For what it's worth, I did not submit a review, and would not do so.

 

[MedicBob]

Originally posted by: notfred

told CBC News Online that McAulay was out "joy-riding" with her friend.

This sounds entirely true to me. Why the hell else was she deliviering pizzas with friends in the car?

Why did the daughter call her mom instead of an ambulance? They should have told her to call an ambulance right away, not drove over to his house and see if they could help. They problably didn't call an ambulance cause they have warrants out for thier arrest, or live in a crack house or something. So, they decided they'd try and do a job they weren't qualified for, so that they could hide from the police. And she got fired for it. She probably deserved it. In my experience, people who wont call an ambulance when they get shot aren't typically what you'd call model citizens, and neither are the poeple they hang around with.

No one ever calls an ambulance 1st, it is pure ignorance.

I personally wouldn't have fired her under the reasoning he used. She would have been fired for screwing around on the job, but her work performance would have to show that.

Another thing, she didn't save anyones life. She put a pillow on an abdominal wound and talked to the guy shot. Trauma pt.'s are saved by surgeons, everyone else just helps. She helped I am sure, but she alone didn't save the guys life. It is views like that, she saved his life, tha lead to people not calling EMS immediately.

She disturbed a crime scene, the area wasn't secured by anyone, any 1st Aid training?, etc.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: weezergirl

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So doing nothing that her friend couldn't have done (or anyone else on the scene for that matter) for the man who was shot gets her a free pass to be careless with company funds and to use company time to drive friends around? She should NOT have been driving friends on company time, that alone is enough to warrant the firing.

ZV

Sure that is fine if that was the reason he fired her but did you read this quote?

"We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

Sorry, but if he was firing her for the specific reasons you stated....a comment like this is just STUPID and shows he has NO heart or brains whatsoever. I don't care if he was just running a business, I'd like to eat at a place that cares about people in general and not just money.

I did NOT say that I thought she was fired for joyriding. I said that the joyriding was sufficient reason for a firing. The eployee was headed for a firing long before this incident. Also, do you have any idea what kind of legal hell she would have opened up for the pizza place if she had done something detrimental? She opened the door to a lawsuit against the company.

And to everyone saying that he should have taken public perception into account, good luck in business. Slackers need to be fired. You can't run a business by being a charity. Public perception is just that, perception. Perception is NOT reality, no matter how much you want it to be.

ZV

 

[godmare]

Looks like she was fired for security violation (the money in the car). Companies don't stand for that. Anyine noe\tice that the shooter and 2 victims were all 33 years old?

 

[LikeLinus]

The people that say she should be fired for joyriding with her friends are the exact same hypocritical people who sit around at work all day posting on ATOT, wasting company time and money and not being productive.

But hey, you're out saving lives too.................right?

 

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
The people that say she should be fired for joyriding with her friends are the exact same hypocritical people who sit around at work all day posting on ATOT, wasting company time and money and not being productive.

But hey, you're out saving lives too.................right?

Great point. I have no comment on the story - both sides have their weak points. That is all.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: weezergirl

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
So doing nothing that her friend couldn't have done (or anyone else on the scene for that matter) for the man who was shot gets her a free pass to be careless with company funds and to use company time to drive friends around? She should NOT have been driving friends on company time, that alone is enough to warrant the firing.

ZV

Sure that is fine if that was the reason he fired her but did you read this quote?

"We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

Sorry, but if he was firing her for the specific reasons you stated....a comment like this is just STUPID and shows he has NO heart or brains whatsoever. I don't care if he was just running a business, I'd like to eat at a place that cares about people in general and not just money.

I did NOT say that I thought she was fired for joyriding. I said that the joyriding was sufficient reason for a firing. The eployee was headed for a firing long before this incident. Also, do you have any idea what kind of legal hell she would have opened up for the pizza place if she had done something detrimental? She opened the door to a lawsuit against the company.

And to everyone saying that he should have taken public perception into account, good luck in business. Slackers need to be fired. You can't run a business by being a charity. Public perception is just that, perception. Perception is NOT reality, no matter how much you want it to be.

ZV

You state that she was "headed for a firing long before this incident". Exactly how long have you know this woman and been in any sort of relations between her or her Supervisors? Are you making assumptions? Cause we all know what that makes out of you. You don't know the full details of this and you're just pulling crap outta your a$$ to make yourself not sound like...just that...an A$$

FYI...you should change your nick to Mr. Cleo.

 

[AnimeKnight]

Originally posted by: zCypher
That's fcking retarded! Everyone I know who's done delivery has had friends in the car w/them at one point or another. It's not like it cuts down on productivity - wtf? It's just like those people who think playing music in the background in a warehouse type job would be counterproductive.. wtf, it would help productivity cause it would keep morale up and people would be in a good mood, hence work better/faster. Same g'damn thing here... people in a better mood hanging out with a friend while driving around - does good job. not like you can screw up deliery anyway.

How do you know she is taking her friend around as she makes her delievry?? If that's all she does to keep her in a better mood I guess it's okay.. but then what if she got into an accident? Is that the company's liability?

Anyway it's just a freaking delivery job... wtf does this guy think he is and what kind of business does he think he's running? lol. what next, you need to be highly professional, wear a suit and tie, etc etc.. for delivery? LOL!

A job is a job. Doesn't matter it's a delivery job or not. I bet some of our ATOTers have delievery as a job sometimes in their life time. The guy is running a business where customers expect the pizza to be delievered on time and hot from the oven. If the girl is "joy riding" then she's not doing her job which will hurt the business. Not to mention going to a crime scene or leaving the door unlock will endanger her safety as well.

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: AnimeKnight
How do you know she is taking her friend around as she makes her delievry?? If that's all she does to keep her in a better mood I guess it's okay.. but then what if she got into an accident? Is that the company's liability?

I believe drivers take on their own responsibilty. I know they did at a privately owned joint I used to do food trades with in my foodservice days so I just expect it's standard.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

i dont think having a friend in a car is gonna get her fired in all cases...the owner never said thats why she was fired...

i've had jobs before where the manager doesnt care if my friends stop by and i talk to them while working...not everyone cares about that as long as the work gets done...so its pretty dumb to assume she was going to get fired for having a friend in her car

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
i dont think having a friend in a car is gonna get her fired in all cases...the owner never said thats why she was fired...

i've had jobs before where the manager doesnt care if my friends stop by and i talk to them while working...not everyone cares about that as long as the work gets done...so its pretty dumb to assume she was going to get fired for having a friend in her car

I'm curious about that too. If you drive on your own insurance with your own liability in the car, What exactly does it matter if her friend was out delivering pizzas with her. It's like leaving work to go to lunch with friends in your car. The work isnt liable for any accidents you have. You are driving your own car at your own risk. As long as she is doing the job, no harm no foul.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: AnimeKnight
In February, she was driving with a friend in her pizza car when the friend's daughter called to say there had been a shooting on her street. McAulay drove her friend home, but as she pulled up one of two shooting victims called for help.


I dont' know both sides of stories but what is she doing driving with a friend during working hour? If she doesn't have a legit excuse for driving around with her friend then she deserve to be fired :|

because it's frigging pizza delivery. it's not high-action, intensive, brain-racking activity. you need someone to talk to.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Police detained McAulay for questioning, and when she reported back to Frank's Pizza her supervisor, Jason Boyd, fired her. "We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

I can't say I disagree with that. It was not as though during the course of her job she happened upon a man shot. No, she actually drove across town TO a shooting after receiving a call from the friend's daughter. What was her 'friend' doing in the car while she was working, anyway?

I suspect this was the culmination of more than just this incident.

yeah..conflicting sides though...i kinda kinda understand why'd she'd get fired...i mean she's using the company's money and time to do this.....she probably shoulda gotten a probation at most......if she spotted the dude that got shot out of the blue,..then it's a totally different story, but yeah, she got a call....but if she didn't go to help the dude, he probably woulda died.......but anyways, the boss made a huge mistake by being all loud and fired her..

 

[SherEPunjab]

none of us know the full story. there is a great chance she was wasting time. i have problems with my employees sometimes too. Why did she have to act like an EMT? couldn't she have just called 911 and let them take care of the situation? its not like she has an ambulance or emergency medical equipment. Why was her friend with her while she was on the job? too many doubts on this one to make it a clear case against Mr. Boyd. With the facts presented, I'm with him.