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Since the unverse is expanding, there is no such thing as infinity

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Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: JToxic
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: Bv3
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: deftron
The universe's size today, as compared to yesterday, is infinity plus 1 ?


:evil:
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I thought the universe was finite?
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You are probably right.
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If it's finite, then how is it expanding?
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For soemting to expand it has to be finite.
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yeah.... think balloon for example...
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A balllon doesn't count because matter outside of the balloon is pushed inside of it
to increase its size. The unverses matter is all inside of it and there is nothing outside of it.

Also, a balloon is measured my the amount of space is occupies compared to it's surrounding. Since there is nothing outside the universe, you cannot measure it
as occupying space, therefore, it goes on for infinity.
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Then put the chemicals necassary to cause expansion in the balloon, place the balloon in an endless vacuum and mix them.
 
Originally posted by: deftron

A balllon doesn't count because matter outside of the balloon is pushed inside of it
to increase its size. The unverses matter is all inside of it and there is nothing outside of it.

Also, a balloon is measured my the amount of space is occupies compared to it's surrounding. Since there is nothing outside the universe, you cannot measure it
as occupying space, therefore, it goes on for infinity.
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Picture yourself as a 2-D man sitting on the balloon surface as its expanding. Better?
 
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: JToxic
Originally posted by: deftron
Originally posted by: Bv3
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: deftron
The universe's size today, as compared to yesterday, is infinity plus 1 ?


:evil:
Click to expand...

I thought the universe was finite?
Click to expand...


You are probably right.
Click to expand...

If it's finite, then how is it expanding?
Click to expand...


For soemting to expand it has to be finite.
Click to expand...



yeah.... think balloon for example...
Click to expand...

A balllon doesn't count because matter outside of the balloon is pushed inside of it
to increase its size. The unverses matter is all inside of it and there is nothing outside of it.

Also, a balloon is measured my the amount of space is occupies compared to it's surrounding. Since there is nothing outside the universe, you cannot measure it
as occupying space, therefore, it goes on for infinity.
Click to expand...
Can you really have "nothing"? I mean.. even if it was "nothing", wouldn't that be something? 😕

lol
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
This universe is finite but perhaps only a lower-dimensional projection of a higher-dimensional space that is infinite. Infinity might also exist in the form of an unbounded number of branching alternate realities formed as each uncertain quantum particle assumes both of its potential states.

At least until you reverse the polarity and emit a stream of chronoton particles into a tachyon field.
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Data! Take Deanna and Beverly to the holodeck for a fivesome with Wesley and Worf!
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Owww... I got coffee in my nostrils.... 😛

 
Originally posted by: deftron
The universe's size today, as compared to yesterday, is infinity plus 1 ?


:evil:
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Infinity is a CONCEPT, not an actual number. It is meaningless to say infinity + 1 or (infinity)^2 and so on.

As rocadelpunk said, infinity + anything = infinity.
 
If the universe is expanding and finite, what is it expanding into? To say that the "universe" is not already infinite admits it's own flaw. It cannot be finite and expanding at the same time.
 
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
This universe is finite but perhaps only a lower-dimensional projection of a higher-dimensional space that is infinite. Infinity might also exist in the form of an unbounded number of branching alternate realities formed as each uncertain quantum particle assumes both of its potential states.

At least until you reverse the polarity and emit a stream of chronoton particles into a tachyon field.
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Data! Take Deanna and Beverly to the holodeck for a fivesome with Wesley and Worf!
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HAHAHAHA. seriously...you just made me spit all over the monitor
:laugh:
 
It is finite... but we will never be able to see the limit, so for all intensive purposes, it is infinite.
 
If the universe is finite, but constantly expanding, but there is "nothingness" all around it, is it expanding equally or is it oozing at different rates in different sections?
 
Originally posted by: joshsquall
If the universe is expanding and finite, what is it expanding into? To say that the "universe" is not already infinite admits it's own flaw. It cannot be finite and expanding at the same time.
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One of my profs has a page dedicated to such questions. We had to answer a few for one of our exams. The basic answer is that since the universe is everything, you can't have something outside of everything (of course because that would mean that you weren't really talking about everything when you said universe).

The first thing to get straight is that there's nothing outside the Universe! By definition the Universe is everything there is: we live inside it; and it isn't expanding into anything.
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Link

 
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