Simultaneous voice and data on Verizon / iPhone 5

[AzNKiD]

3 reasons why I want/use talk+data simultaneous

-Example, friends calls me since she doesnt have smartphone and is outdoors, needs business contact. I just open browser, find business contact info and give it to her with out hitch while still talking to her via speaker

-Driving while using NAV and talking/coordinating with the person I am about to met. yes google cache basic map layout, but then no traffic stats, no satellite view, no street view on distantion.


-Tethering to my laptop, then some one calls and my laptop internet access goes to poop.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm thinking that unless you tether its probably of marginal importance. Although tethering with LTE looks very useful.

 

[akugami]

Quoting the article:

Do you know the reason for that? And do you know the cons involved for this support? Do you know the pros for not supporting simultaneous voice & data?

The reason I ask is because everyone makes it out like Apple is run by a bunch of retards for not enabling this functionality. Saying it's Apple's fault for not implementing simultaneous voice & data doesn't look at the reasons for this decision.

 

[Red Storm]

Do you know the reason for that? And do you know the cons involved for this support? Do you know the pros for not supporting simultaneous voice & data?

The reason I ask is because everyone makes it out like Apple is run by a bunch of retards for not enabling this functionality. Saying it's Apple's fault for not implementing simultaneous voice & data doesn't look at the reasons for this decision.

From the articles I've read it seems it was sacrificed because they wanted to make the phone as thin as possible. As others and myself have already said, that's pretty dumb when you consider the iPhone was already pretty darn thin to begin with. I find it odd that Apple would let a feature like that go so easily.

I used to never do anything that required voice and data together, but that's because Verizon's 3G was too slow to be of any real use. LTE has changed things. Pulling up maps, emails, directions, movie times, etc. while on the phone has become more and more common for myself, and I'm willing to bet others as well.

 

[akugami]

From the articles I've read it seems it was sacrificed because they wanted to make the phone as thin as possible. As others and myself have already said, that's pretty dumb when you consider the iPhone was already pretty darn thin to begin with. I find it odd that Apple would let a feature like that go so easily.

Actually, it's more than that. Now, I wish the iPhone had retained it's original thickness and added a larger battery. The reason I mention this is that one of the negatives of enabling simultaneous voice & data is reduced battery life to operate the two radios+antenna. That's why you see some of the crappy battery life on the early LTE phones.

The early LTE adopters are exactly the type of people who would want simultaneous data & voice which the average Joe will likely not miss. You've got the LTE chipset which is more power hungry already adding stress to the battery. Then for enabling data & voice, you operate two radios which further drains your battery.

Not saying this is the major reason for not enabling voice & data since I mentioned the thickness of the phone and how they could have increased the size to offset the increased battery drain but if you were designing a phone, would this not be a valid design tradeoff? You don't have to agree with their decision but it's not as boneheaded as some would have you think.

 

[Red Storm]

I feel it is though. You're slightly "improving" something by making it thinner, at the cost of completely losing the other feature, a feature that all your competitors have had for a while now. And I would argue that going thinner is not always better, see the S3 and the Razr for proof.

 

[Rayb]

3 reasons why I want/use talk+data simultaneous

-Example, friends calls me since she doesnt have smartphone and is outdoors, needs business contact. I just open browser, find business contact info and give it to her with out hitch while still talking to her via speaker

-Driving while using NAV and talking/coordinating with the person I am about to met. yes google cache basic map layout, but then no traffic stats, no satellite view, no street view on distantion.


-Tethering to my laptop, then some one calls and my laptop internet access goes to poop.

Exactly, it makes a bigger impact when a business relation is at stake and having the resources to do it is invaluable.

 

[akugami]

I feel it is though. You're slightly "improving" something by making it thinner, at the cost of completely losing the other feature, a feature that all your competitors have had for a while now. And I would argue that going thinner is not always better, see the S3 and the Razr for proof.

Yeah, I didn't say thinner is always better. Like I said in my previous post, I would have liked the iPhone 5 to be the same thickness as the iPhone 4. If nothing else, cram a larger battery in there.

As for some of the design reasons, see the Anandtech article which sheds more light on Apple's decisions regarding the antenna design.

 

[purbeast0]

when ip4 came to verizon that was my first smart phone ever. i've never once had a need to use both voice/internet at the same time in this time period.

this is basically just another bullet point that apple haters will drool over.

 

[Spoooon]

when ip4 came to verizon that was my first smart phone ever. i've never once had a need to use both voice/internet at the same time in this time period.

this is basically just another bullet point that apple haters will drool over.

To be fair, back in the day, this was a bullet point for apple lovers to drool over.

 

[Ns1]

This used to be an att vs vzw thing now it's an apple v android thing

 

[KentState]

This is a deal breaker for me. I tether for at least an hour daily M-F and need voice at the same time.

Also a big deal for businesses that are looking for a phone and LTE tethering solution in a single device. We spend a boat load giving out two devices and have stared looking towards Android devices since it will save us money. We could have easily replaced all of our Blackberry/4g hot spots with iPhones.

 

[jpiniero]

Perhaps they thought Voice over LTE would be farther along than it is? I suppose it's possible that the 5 will support it when it comes, although of course it might be a 5S only feature.

From Anand's article, it sounds like the AT&T model would drop to GSM, so you don't get Voice+LTE data on AT&T either; although you can still make calls.