simple fact of life that everythings always been old school and alan turing

[WelshBloke]

You need to watch all his videos on Youtube. Then slowly back out of the thread.

I don't do YouTube.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I just simply want everybody to know this fact that everything's always been old school.

If you get into Princeton or get a job and then try to "convince" people that everything's old school, it's never gonna end well for you. Only your inner circle of friends believe that or maybe they are just agreeing with you in a friendly manner so as not to agitate you or get into a never ending argument with you. I hope you understand this. We here have no interest in seeing you fail in life. But you are making things hard for yourself. Just focus on what you need to do to succeed in life and become independent. This "everything's old school" thing you can do when you are in a retirement home. No one's gonna care at that point and you may even find actual friends there who agree wholeheartedly with your point of view.

 

[WelshBloke]

This "everything's old school" thing you can do when you are in a retirement home. No one's gonna care at that point and you may even find actual friends there who agree wholeheartedly with your point of view.

Nah. At that point you complain that everything is new school and that it was much better when it was old school and why does everyone keep changing things for the worse, and that you could leave your dog unlocked all day and no one would steal him and that you wore an onion on your belt because that was the style at the time...

 

[kennyreid95]

If you get into Princeton or get a job and then try to "convince" people that everything's old school, it's never gonna end well for you. Only your inner circle of friends believe that or maybe they are just agreeing with you in a friendly manner so as not to agitate you or get into a never ending argument with you. I hope you understand this. We here have no interest in seeing you fail in life. But you are making things hard for yourself. Just focus on what you need to do to succeed in life and become independent. This "everything's old school" thing you can do when you are in a retirement home. No one's gonna care at that point and you may even find actual friends there who agree wholeheartedly with your point of view.

You as well as other people really don't believe me that people get what I'm saying? Why don't we do a poll and see how many people get all that I'm saying.

 

[igor_kavinski]

You as well as other people really don't believe me that people get what I'm saying? Why don't we do a poll and see how many people get all that I'm saying.

But what's the actual point of that? It gets us nowhere. It gets YOU nowhere.

 

[igor_kavinski]

that you could leave your dog unlocked all day and no one would steal him and that you wore an onion on your belt because that was the style at the time...

Well, I believe:

All dogs can talk. They just don't because they know they would then have to get jobs and no one would keep them as pets anymore.

Onions are powerful. What else makes you cry whilst you are eating it?

 

[kennyreid95]

I don't do YouTube.

Why is it impossible to change the world for the better? You can do that with a smile or a wave to a stranger!

But also have free will to do positive or good things! That's the thing about free will.

I'm not up on US aid agencies, maybe someone else here can advise on who to contact for adult education advice?

But what's the actual point of that? It gets us nowhere. It gets YOU nowhere.

You still don't get what I'm saying. Yes people have free will to be positive but you obviously can't force people to not do evil or negative things because again everybody has free will in life when everything has always been old school.

See you even have free will to not use youtube. People have free will to use digital or computer stuff however they want to.

There absolutely is a point.

 

[WelshBloke]

You still don't get what I'm saying. Yes people have free will to be positive but you obviously can't force people to not do evil or negative things because again everybody has free will in life when everything has always been old school.

So if there's free will to be positive or negative, good or evil, then you absolutely can make a decision to make a positive change in the world or yourself.
That's what free will is. That freedom to make the decision.
You can't control other people but you can control you and your actions change both you and the world.

 

[kennyreid95]

So if there's free will to be positive or negative, good or evil, then you absolutely can make a decision to make a positive change in the world or yourself.
That's what free will is. That freedom to make the decision.
You can't control other people but you can control you and your actions change both you and the world.

Right but, ok so let me ask you this simple question. how can me caring to change the world for the better stop people from doing evil or negative things when everything's always been old school? Again You know that it is impossible to stop people from doing evil or negative things and I wasn't the only one who cared to change the world for the better. People make efforts to change the world for the better but again people still do evil or negative things because of free will again.

 

[WelshBloke]

Right but, ok so let me ask you this simple question. how can me caring to change the world for the better stop people from doing evil or negative things when everything's always been old school? Again You know that it is impossible to stop people from doing evil or negative things and I wasn't the only one who cared to change the world for the better. People make efforts to change the world for the better but again people still do evil or negative things because of free will again.

Evil or negative people are going to do what they do. If you (as a positive or good actor) do nothing then the balance is negative. If you do positive things that tips the balance more towards positive. If your good actions influence someone else that tips the balance towards good even more.

So if good people do nothing that just lets the bad influences have control. If you do good, no matter how small, it makes a positive difference.
Positive or negative change isn't a binary thing, it's analogue (which you prefer anyway) so little changes matter.

 

[WelshBloke]

You need to watch all his videos on Youtube. Then slowly back out of the thread.

Also just trying to make those small positive differences that make the world better!

 

[kennyreid95]

Evil or negative people are going to do what they do. If you (as a positive or good actor) do nothing then the balance is negative. If you do positive things that tips the balance more towards positive. If your good actions influence someone else that tips the balance towards good even more.

So if good people do nothing that just lets the bad influences have control. If you do good, no matter how small, it makes a positive difference.
Positive or negative change isn't a binary thing, it's analogue (which you prefer anyway) so little changes matter.

Again I along many other real or genuine people made efforts to change the world for the better but again evil or negative people have free will when everything's always been old school they don't care about being real or positive.

 

[WelshBloke]

Again I along many other real or genuine people made efforts to change the world for the better but again evil or negative people have free will when everything's always been old school they don't care about being real or positive.

So if good people did nothing at all to change the world that would just leave all the influence to bad people yes?
If the only influence was from bad people then things would be worse yes?
So if things are better when good people have influence then that is a change to the world.

 

[WelshBloke]

Again I along many other real or genuine people made efforts to change the world for the better but again evil or negative people have free will when everything's always been old school they don't care about being real or positive.

*Double posted but I'll use this one anyway*

Imagine you're going through your day and everyone is being horrible to you and you feel terrible.
Then one random person you meet is lovely, they give you time to talk and listen to you.
That one person hasn't changed the actions of the people who were horrible, they haven't made them change their attitude but they have made a positive change in the world by making your day better.
Everyone can do that.

 

[kennyreid95]

So if good people did nothing at all to change the world that would just leave all the influence to bad people yes?
If the only influence was from bad people then things would be worse yes?
So if things are better when good people have influence then that is a change to the world. Ust by doi

Ok again Real or genuine or good people have done something or make efforts to change the world for the better but it never works and it will never work again because evil or negative people have free will in life when everything has always been a old school. obviously I'm not saying good people never make efforts.

 

[WelshBloke]

Ok again Real or genuine or good people have done something or make efforts to change the world for the better but it never works and it will never work again because evil or negative people have free will in life when everything has always been a old school. obviously I'm not saying good people never make efforts.

How do you know that it never works?
You haven't seen the alternative when they didn't try to make a change! That could be far worse.

 

[kennyreid95]

How do you know that it never works?
You haven't seen the alternative when they didn't try to make a change! That could be far worse.

Come on man listen to yourself. How long has the world been a crappy place or a cold world? People have made efforts for a long time and the world is still cold and full of a lot negativity or evil.

 

[VirtualLarry]

How do you know that it never works?
You haven't seen the alternative when they didn't try to make a change! That could be far worse.

Micheal Jackson's "Man in the Mirror". Listen to that song, OP.

 

[kennyreid95]

Micheal Jackson's "Man in the Mirror". Listen to that song, OP.

Again How long has the world been a crappy place or a cold world? People have made efforts to change the world for the better for a very long time and the world is still cold and full of a lot negativity or evil.

 

[WelshBloke]

Come on man listen to yourself. How long has the world been a crappy place or a cold world? People have made efforts for a long time and the world is still cold and full of a lot negativity or evil.

It's full of a lot of good people and positivity as well!
The world's a much better place to live in now than it was, say, 200 years ago!

 

[kennyreid95]

It's full of a lot of good people and positivity as well!
The world's a much better place to live in now than it was, say, 200 years ago!

Ok but come on man I know the world is full of good or real people obviously. Yes 200 years ago the world was much worse because of let's say racism. but racism is still a big issue today. Look at Andrew Kearse or Traevon martin or Jordan Davis. Jordan and Traveon were my age born in 1995 by the way gone too soon. I as a person of color still have to deal with the fear of racist pieces of human garbage people.

 

[sdifox]

godBot, but more painful

 

[WelshBloke]

Ok but come on man I know the world is full of good or real people obviously. Yes 200 years ago the world was much worse because of let's say racism. but racism is still a big issue today. Look at Andrew Kearse or Traevon martin or Jordan Davis. Jordan and Traveon were my age born in 1995 by the way gone too soon. I as a person of color still have to deal with the fear of racist pieces of human garbage people.

The world is better than it was 200 years ago because of the cumulative efforts of lots of good people. They all made a small difference and it adds up.

 

[kennyreid95]

The world is better than it was 200 years ago because of the cumulative efforts of lots of good people. They all made a small difference and it adds up.

I don't know man, I think you still don't get what I am trying to tell ya. I give up.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Someone should pipe this thread through ChatGPT to see what happens.